Following the other thread (550 upvotes and 366 comments at the moment: https://lemmy.world/post/16211417), one of the complaints that people had what that some communities only exist on lemmy.ml and don’t have alternatives on other instances.
Let’s discuss this and see if we can organize together.
I suggest to have one topic per comment so that is is easier to discuss.
!fusionenergy@lemmy.ml and !fusion@lemmy.ml
Mods: @CHEFKOCH@lemmy.ml and @zksmk@lemmy.ml @zksmk@slrpnk.net @zksmk@sopuli.xyz
Could not find any current alternatives.
Any instance recommendations? Maybe mander.xyz? (@sal@mander.xyz)
!classical_music@lemmy.ml (@erpicht@lemmy.ml)
Possible alternative:
Yes, I just posted over there that:
So if there’s an issue with lemmy.ml, boycott it - unsubscribe, give the other communities on more agreeable instances your time and they will grow and prosper. If there isn’t a relevant alternative start one.
And this is a key step - identify where there aren’t alternatives and start them. It might also be worth compiling a list of the alternatives so people can make the switch.
It’s also worth bearing in mind that Lemmy isn’t like Reddit in that you could just passively consume content all day. If there’s a problem, we all need to roll our sleeves up and pitch in.
Worth also mentioning that !fedigrow@lemm.ee is a good place to discuss topics on how we can help Lemmy grow and thrive.
They just moved to !collapse@lemm.ee, the post is pinned
Awesome - I switched my subs
- !dccomics@lemm.ee - no posts that I can see
Maybe !comicbooks@lemmy.world ?
Too general.
Based on the activity on both !dccomics@lemmy.ml and !comicbooks@lemmy.world, seems enough for now.
Having everything on LW isn’t the same problem?
Centralization is still a problem, but LW doesn’t have as much propaganda and aggressive moderation
The definition of propaganda is subjective.
There is a lot westerns do not perceive as propaganda. As someone from the global south I can tell you.
Can you give an example? Are you talking about propaganda from a government or something else?
- !discworld@sffa.community but it is a bit dead at the moment. Although as I’ve been the main poster it is clearly my fault or a dearth of news. I have tended to cross-posting to them both, so I may just focus on this one.
Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but I wanted to say that I see you going to such great efforts to help people all across the entire Fediverse, and to say thank you - we appreciate you!:-)
Yeah, Blaze definitely deserves some kind of “threadiverse citizen’s volunteer of the year” award or something.
Thanks!
And happy cake day to you!
Thanks! It seems like a bunch of us have our cake days around this time… what an interesting coincidence! :)
They are always on r/RedditAlternatives steering people towards the Fediverse too, along with a few others. Unfortunately most people there are resistant, and the heavily leftist-leaning nature of the content here turns a lot of people away (many instances including reddthat.com do not block either hexbear.net or lemmygrad.ml by default for new users, so all those posts promoting literal violence against e.g. landlords show up immediately in their All feeds), but it is still awesome to see them trying!:-)
Personally I think the technology will need to be improved first - e.g. adding content labels such as Mastodon already has (and everything else these days except Lemmy) - before we will see wider acceptance, especially since there are a lot of centrists who nonetheless contribute niche content that otherwise will not feel comfortable here and thus remain on Reddit, or a lot of people simply swear off social media altogether. But damn, if we do succeed it will in no small part be due to their constant efforts!:-) 🥰
They are always on r/RedditAlternatives steering people towards the Fediverse too, along with a few others. Unfortunately most people there are resistant, and the heavily leftist-leaning nature of the content here turns a lot of people away (many instances including reddthat.com do not block either hexbear.net or lemmygrad.ml by default for new users, so all those posts promoting literal violence against e.g. landlords show up immediately in their All feeds), but it is still awesome to see them trying!:-)
Yeah, some people there have the worst bad faith I’ve ever seen. Anyway, at least some other people can read the comments and learn about Lemmy.
There could literally be some Reddit shills there, or “useful” people who somehow are still holding on tooth & nail to the Reddit name - some people are just like that - and actually I am glad that those have not migrated over to here, even purely to do trolling:-).
But there are a lot of centrist, middle-of-the-road people, as well as right-leaning people too, who could add their voices here and contribute to the ongoing conversation - b/c not everything is about politics (even if so many people try to turn the conversation towards that here, and I am guilty of that as well; yet gardening, woodworking, knitting, etc. - not everything needs to bring it up consistently).
There is so much that we could do to make this place more “welcoming” for others. And I see you doing that tirelessly, so thanks!:-)
Thanks, trying to help!
!selfdrivingcars@lemmy.ml and !selfdrivingvehicles@lemmy.ml
The respective moderators (@amalshaji@lemmy.ml, @element@lemmy.ml) have been AWOL for 4 years.
Possible alternative:
- !SelfDrivingCars@kbin.social (kbin development is fragile?)
Any instance recommendations?
@sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al, were you able to find any RSS news sources?
I found a couple. I’m saddened that https://selfdrivenews.com doesn’t have an RSS feed though
I’ve figured it out @threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works . The thing that was bugging me was where we should host the autonomous and self driving technology community and the whole time it was bloody obvious. @lugh@futurology.today can we host it on your instance?
where we should host the autonomous and self driving technology community and the whole time it was bloody obvious. @lugh@futurology.today can we host it on your instance?
I asked the futurology admins about adding additional communities that fit the futurology theme, but they seem uninterested. I’m not sure why, as having what is essentially a single-community instance seems a bit strange to me, but it’s ultimately their call.
@Lugh@futurology.today and @Espiritdescali@futurology.today, would you reconsider increasing the number of communities on your instance, provided they fit the futurology theme?
We are not against it, but it needs careful consideration due to limited server resources as well as limited user attention (we are a very small instance compared to others)
We’re not sure how much additional traction we would drive to your server, but we don’t expect too much. It would mostly just be me and @threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works posting news stories and videos (hosted on YouTube) about self-driving technology with the occasional news story and video about robot chefs. So very much in line with Futurology.
I’ll have a chat with the other mods and come back to you
Thank you so much
We’ve decided to go ahead with this, fire over a DM and we’ll get the community set up
- Wait for a SW instance?
Firefox
!firefox@lemmy.ml - 16.8k subscribers
!firefox@lemmy.world - 3.58k subscribers
!firefox@fedia.io - 1.06k subscribers
I can’t quite decide whether to consolidate LW and Fedia for the community. LW has more subscribers, but Fedia is a little more active.
I’m also thinking of asking active users of !firefox@lemmy.ml to post on LW instead.
Fedia.io would be nice. That would be a change and promote Mbin a bit
I’m on .ml and have been considering making an account on another instance, but it seems like most major instances require an email. .ml did not require an email.
Email is optional on https://sh.itjust.works/signup
Instance URL checks out
Indeed it does, most of the time. The admins are pretty good at what they do.
Possible alternatives?
- !crow_ompanions@feddit.de (fragile instance?)
- !corvids@sopuli.xyz (broader than crows)
@BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world (prolific poster) and @Mechanismatic@lemmy.ml (mod)
Thoughts?
Jellyfin: !jellyfin@lemmy.ml
Maybe something for https://lemmy.dbzer0.com ?
Wouldn’t https://lemmy.film or https://selfhosted.forum be better? Even https://libretechni.ca
https://libretechni.ca/ is also down on my site, is the site supposed to be up?
Yep, I guess its having an outage. It’s been fine for weeks.
Who downvoted this? Why? 😵💫
It’s back up! 🎉
Oh nice! Only one admin though
Is one admin bad?
If he decides to shut down the project, or something happens to him, the server will probably go down with him.
See vlemmy.net, lemmy.film, iusearch.fyi, and so on
Aha, makes sense. Though my beloved tf went down and that had multiple admins at one point.
Single admin instances are fragile instances. One person is a single point of failure.
But if the primary admin buggers off with the hosting and/or domain, doesn’t that kill all instances?
I can easily create a community for jellyfin on https://selfhosted.forum, but I’d be more inclined to do it on https://poweruser.forum.
Sorry to bring it to you, but https://lemmy.film/ has been down for probably six months.
What is the issue with dbzer0? It’s literally an instance with the largest piracy community of all of Lemmy
When I think of db0 I think of piracy or AI, Jellyfin is a media manager, when I think of it, I think of TV, film and self hosting.
Well, I’m pretty sure none of the Jellyfin users stream their vacation movies
At least one does. But needless to say, there’s lots of legally owned content sitting on many NASs all across the world.
I just created !jellyfin@poweruser.forum
Creating the community isn’t the issue, usually it’s finding moderators
I mean, if your qualification for moderator includes “Not abusing powers to defend garbage extremist politics” then we currently have two communities that each have zero moderators.
Not sure if I got your comment correctly, are you implying that @rglullis@communick.news is going to power trip on the newly created !jellyfin@poweruser.forum, or do you mean something else?
No, just an implication towards the old lemmy.ml version of the community.
What I mean is, moving from a bad situation to an equally bad but improvable situation is still a good move. It might be better to have a small, unmoderated community than one governed by “pretend” moderators.
That said, if the above comment was pointing out a need to fulfill, as opposed to decrying the attempts at community replacement, then you could disregard my snide remark.
Got it!
Don’t worry about it for now. I will do it until someone steps up for it. Also, don’t forget that I am actually working on tooling to make this job easier, so having any type of growing community would be an excellent way to find out the real pain point for moderators and work on the solutions.
When I said moderator, I meant someone to bring people to the community as well 😅
For that, I really have no answer other than “help with fediverser, stick with one community, and post as much as possible in the promoted communities”.
No but I mean practically now, is anyone going to promote that new community to !jellyfin@lemmy.ml? Or do we expect people to hear about it by another mean?
Or do we expect people to hear about it by another mean?
Yes. Fediverser will help newcomers. Posting content in the “new communities” will help those already here. Everyone browses by all anyway, so the best way to promote new communities is by putting content there.
- Wait for a SW instance?