Vimms lair is starting to remove many roms that are being requested to be removed by Nintendo etc. soon many original roms, hacks, and translations will be lost forever. Can any of you help make archive torrents of roms from vimms lair and cdromance? They have hacks and translations that dont exist elsewhere and will probably be removed soon with ios emulation and retro handhelds bringing so much attention to roms and these sites

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 months ago

    The whole point of IP laws (according to the Constitution of the United States) is to develop a robust public domain. Every registered idea, multiplied by every limited rights extention is a violation of public interest and public rights.

    By burying or failing to preserve content, they are in fact stealing from the public, since we won’t be able to access it when it is our right.

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      It wouldn’t be too hard to go through every archived game and determine if it’s still available through corporate means or not. Those are the ones that are threatened to be erased forever if corpos get their way. The biggest problem is the money and means to fight against corporate goons and lawyers.

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        5 months ago

        Here.. Article I, Section 8, Clause 8.

        [the United States Congress shall have power] To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.

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      5 months ago

      This is America, the only law that is enforced is ownership by means of a monetary transaction.

      “Ownership” by public nature is laughed at.

      C.R.E.A.M :(

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      Someone should present this to some progressive legislative body so that we can develop a safe haven for archiving games.

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        Here in the US, there are no progressive legislative bodies. The Democratic party treats its progressive members as the red-haired stepchildren who have to dine at their own table.

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    5 months ago

    I have some sets for early systems. Find romsets on other sites. Store them and make your own torrents, working on one but its currently broken

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      5 months ago

      No it’s because all the Apple emulator users being reckless as fuck, flocking to the site all at once to try games they could have emulated on PC for decades now…

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      5 months ago

      For now. Myrient doesnt use torrents either so when Nintendo comes for them the files are gone

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            The site says 200tb, and I’m mostly interested in the nes, SNES and genesis archive. I’ve got archives of every game made for those already, but I don’t have every mod and such. Those archives are very small, the nes one is a few hundred megabytes. I’m guessing most of that big number is ps1, 2 and n64 games. I’d probably be interested in archiving those as well but I think the old pre 3d console games are probably worth saving more, since not many people have copies.

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    There are already torrents containing collections of all the games from old systems. What there needs to be is an “official” collection torrent for each system that archivists can store and seed individually

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      Every time I see this news (Reddit or Lemmy) I see this kind of comment, but I wonder, what if I want to download just a ROM of a few mbs? I certainly don’t want to hoard the whole collection, as a torrent user I believe I can just pick up the file (if it isn’t zipped), but wouldn’t that be against the torrent’s moral code?

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        Anecdotal, but when I was just messing with qBittorrent and its search feature, I found some ROM sets just by searching for system and sorting by size. This torrent for example is not necessarily comprehensive but contains a lot of roms of which can be shared with friends and family :)

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      There arent ones that include hacks and fan translations. For example PSP games like monster hunter portable 2nd G with the FUComplete patch or Monster Hunter Portable 3rd G with the English Patch v5

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    VIMM’s Lair has been around for ages… If Nintendo really cared why didn’t they do something around, say, 2002? 🤔

    Why is there no statute of limitations on this kinda bullshit?

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      I don’t think that’s a good argument. In a more general case, if you didn’t pursue your rights 10 years ago that doesn’t mean you can’t get your shit together and do it today. Maybe you’ve lost some of what you deserved but you still should get future benefits.

      As for statue of limitations, if it keeps happening today then it doesn’t matter when it started. They could only talk about things that happened in the past year - it’s still being hosted and shared.

      To be clear, I’m not taking Nintendo’s side, all efforts to preserve these games are amazing and I love to see everyone keep it up :)

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        It’s more the fact that actual crimes can be nullified by a statute of limitations, but shit like this doesn’t seem to have any expiration date

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          If someone shared ROMs 20 years ago and stopped, Nintendo wouldn’t be able to do anything about it today. The statute of limitations does apply.

          But if someone started sharing ROMs 20 years ago, and continued doing it every day until today, then that means they shared ROMs yesterday. The “crime” still happened yesterday.

          Edit: but they care a lot more about preventing it from happening tomorrow.

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    Damn…Vimms Lair was my favorite, friggin Nintendo doing what it does best…

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      My kid has the first Nintendo Switch, he wanted the new one, but I told him “you’re getting a Steam Deck, and we’re smashing all Nintendo shit with a sledgehammer”. Then I explained to him why it’s wrong to support compaies that enshitify life, and now he is waiting for his Deck and has already pirated all the games he liked and has been testing a few emulators.

      I’m proud of him.

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          I like his logic about this. We paid for the games, so nothing wrong with using them however we want. I just want my kids to know they have options and use them.