GitCode, a git-hosting website operated Chongqing Open-Source Co-Creation Technology Co Ltd and with technical support from CSDN and Huawei Cloud.

It is being reported that many users’ repository are being cloned and re-hosted on GitCode without explicit authorization.

There is also a thread on Ycombinator (archived link)

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    I hope they copy the web interface too. I stopped using GitHub for my dumb little projects when Microsoft bought them and I can’t be bothered to learn git. I will gladly host my future projects there if it’s good.

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        I’m not an engineer and I am employed, I do a little scripting for fun. Software developers should learn how to use git but I’m not one :)

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        The web interface is great and easy to use. I liked just dragging and dropping updated files to it, very simple.

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        Generally, I tend to think more in the direction of that there is some misunderstanding happening, then people being stupid. Maybe that is just the optimist in me.

        What exactly is meant when people say they don’t know git. Do they mean the repository data format? Do they mean the network protocol? Do they mean the command line utility? Or just how to work with git as a developer, which is similar to other vcs?

        I think if you use some git gui, you can get very far, without needing to understand “git”, which I would argue most people, that use it daily, don’t, at least not fully.

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        %100 me when I first started github: “welp its saying something I dont understand, time to nuke the local copy and restart”

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    Shame they don’t have anything themselves that’s worth the trouble to copy back.

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        That they got from the West when CATL bought out a bankrupt US company that had developed LFP to commercial viability.

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          That’s called value investing… Maybe our dear leader should learn how to manage national wealth instead of cutting companies and allowing a geopolitical adversary to take over tech/IP

          Ie this is not a flex you think it is, it just proves my point that our dear leaders are incompetent imbiciles or worst… Bad faith actors.

          No accountability leads to this sort of decision making lol

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          I think the two of you are focusing on either end of this and not really seeing the bigger picture.

          China absolutely (stole / acquired) all the technology they have for solar, EV, and grid based storage. They have literally innovated 0% in this particular industry. I don’t think there’s any debating this aspect.

          At the same time, China has pour billions into domestic production of solar panels, lithium and sodium batteries, vehicle production, and grid based storage solutions the likes that no other country has even remotely attempted. They recent demonstrated cheap sodium based 10MWh storage systems that can be built using seawater sodium. Something that California makes a shit ton of in their desalination plants, that they currently just shove the salt off as waste byproduct.

          Like, if we wanted to, that kind of thing that China just demonstrated, we could be building GWh level storage systems for 10% the cost of a 1 GWh nuclear facility strictly off a byproduct that California distinctly doesn’t want and is literally paying people to take away. They could literally flip a cost into a revenue stream, but we don’t because “reasons”. We could literally have large batteries charged in Utah, and then use rail to move the sodium based batteries into the Eastern sections of the US, using literally the same infrastructure that we use today to move the tons of coal we move around for the TWh of power we generate. We could be doing this today. But we don’t because many nations just buy the arguments politicians feed them, or “it’s complicated”. And then there’s China demonstrating at small scale that it’s doable. So instead we say “oh well it wouldn’t scale” or “oh well you stole all that tech” because apparently our pride is more important than climate change.

          The thing is, yes China has not committed to educating their population into novel development of these technologies. But at the same time they are deploying this stuff at rates every other developed nation has said they’d like to try and do that one day off in the future. Or can’t do right now because their hands are tied.

          For the folks pointing at China as the enemy, fine. I’m not going to debate it. But there’s still things to learn from what they are doing with that stolen technology. Do we need to cozy up to them? Nah. But they’re showing off that grid based storage at scale and cheap is a thing even though people like France and the US say that such a thing is not possible at this time. They are showing LFP is viable if you’re willing to take an initial domestic loss to invest in the infrastructure, something the US citizens know but keep saying “well oil interest are holding us back”. No, there’s only a few dozen oil execs, there over a three hundred million non-oil execs. It’s a lack of will power.

          Like most western nations keep coming up with excuses for delaying EV and green technology pushes and China keeps showing many of the excuses given to be false. And we know they’re false. We know the expectation of no less than $36k USD for an EV is some bullshit that car companies are pulling to offset all the baggage they have from leaving ICE. We know we could have charge stations every 100 miles on the Interstates, but we don’t because oil companies don’t want to lose their investments in the infrastructure they’ve got right now.

          We know the reasons being given by our political and industry leaders are all bullshit. China is over there showing IRL how bullshit they are. Yeah, they stole everything they have, but at the same time all this “oh we couldn’t possibly do that here in the US” is shown for the BS it is, that we already know it to be, in China.

          I mean, great, we’re all very smart people. Awesome. What good is that awesome smartness if we keep letting dumb fucks in politics pander off dumb excuses for why we don’t get to enjoy any of the stuff that awesome smartness provides? What good is being innovative if corporations keep handicapping that innovation to ensure they have a steady stream of revenue?

          I mean yeah, let’s call China out of the bullshit they pull. But I mean, let’s not forget all the damn windows we’ve broken ourselves in our glass house here.

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            Just my take but:

            Like them or not (and IMV they are a serious threat), China’s system enforces a strategic view, long term, more like a 100yr plan.

            We don’t. It’s by election cycle or quarterly earnings report.

            These things all make more sense if you see them impassionately, and without an ethical filter, from a long term POV.

            China will do what’s best for China in the long term. Irrespective of ‘politics’ that are like ripples upon a rising tide.

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            I absolutely do not discredit the scaling they’ve done in the manufacturing process, but if there’s one thing China does well, it’s scale manufacturing. That’s usually because they have much lower safety and quality standards, and might bring them up later on. But what they don’t seem to have, at least in these industries, is innovation in the underlying technology to any appreciable extent.

            But hooboy, can they pump out solar panels and batteries when they’re taken off the leash.

            And abso-fucking-lutely, we in Western countries continuously shoot ourselves in the foot with short-term thinking. There was a time it seemed when there were plans like the New Deal where thought was given to decades down the road. Today, the longest term outlook you see if 4 years. And that’s common across the board, I wouldn’t even place that just at the feet of the US. It’s a damn shame, and it’s the reason the middle class is getting hammered for the last 40 years. But we do know how to R&D, just now we can’t get build a manufacturing base without some grifter taking all the subsidies and shipping them offshore.

            Now I’m depressed.

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            Why move the batteries instead of “moving” the electrons? You generate the electricity anywhere you want and use Therese nice cables that happen to be everywhere.

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              HVAC suffers from loss over distance. Large distances like what’s between the western US deserts and the eastern seaboard would suffer large losses to heat via HVAC.

              HVDC can solve this, but that requires an investment into this kind of infrastructure. Moving the batteries is using a preexisting infrastructure because the assumption is that new infrastructure won’t be upgraded. We will build new so long as a ROI has quick turn around, another assumption here being that long term profit planning won’t happen so everything needs to be planned to have profiting within two or less years. But we won’t build new if usage of that new happens a decade later.

              We could totally send the electrons over, but sending the batteries over is adding a bunch of assumptions that people won’t want to do massive investments in basic infrastructure to facilitate that, so we’ve got run with what we have that can ensure profits in a fairly rapid pace before investors bore of it or the next election cycle tosses everything in chaos.

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        I’ve seen what’s inside the speed controllers and battery monitoring circuitry for Chinese EVs. I don’t think I want to be anywhere near them.

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      Let’s dismiss all chinese contributors to open source projects with AI, javascript, PHP and so on.

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    The vast majority of projects on GitHub is open-source and forkable, why would that need authorization?

    It’s… suspicious that China’s doing it en masse, but there’s nothing wrong in cloning or forking a repo last i heard.

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      It’s not about authorization. They want to build a knowledge base for when the Great Firewall gets some more filters. Just like russias mirror of wikipedia which is heavily edited to discredit the west.

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        And under copyleft licensing, they’re allowed to do that. Both to GitHub repositories and Wikipedia.

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          Hopefully they follow the rest of the stipulations of the licenses, such as the common one about keeping the license as such and contributing the changes back.

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          Of course they are, it’s not like there is some kind of international jurisdiction anyway. What is bothersome is why they do it.

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            Even if there was jurisdiction, anyone in the world is entitled to do it by the very licenses these works are released under.

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        Just like russias mirror of wikipedia which is heavily edited to discredit the west.

        How come I live in Russia and have never seen such?

        I know only of quite a few troll\counterculture projects, some, like Lurkmore, are already, well, dead, some, like Traditsiya, are not.

        That, of course, if you don’t mean that Russian Wikipedia in itself has problems. Which would be true.

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          It’s called Ruwiki.

          It was launched in June 24, 2023 as a fork of the Russian Wikipedia, and has been described by some media groups as “Putin-friendly” and “Kremlin-compliant”.

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        This seems like the most plausible explanation. Only other thing I can think of is they want to develop their own CoPilot (which I’m guessing isn’t available in China due to the U.S. AI restrictions?), and they’re just using their existing infrastructure to gather training data.

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      Firewalls are already being built in america’s internet with the ban of tiktok

      As an european i do not see problem with having copies of free software in places not controlled by the monopoly microsoft is morphing to.

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    omw to get all the homebrew stuff NIntendo got removed from github lol

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    It’s a bit odd, but isn’t it equivalent to forking and putting up a fork elsewhere?

    I guess I don’t see the problem.

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      It will be funny to see folks who spent the last ten years posting “It’s not stealing, it’s copying” memes suddenly find religion because Evil Foreign People got involved.

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        I’m quite scared of how AI apparently pushes people in favour of significantly stricter copyrights. This is not a good trend.

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          This isn’t people being influenced by AI. This is Microsoft’s Godzilla battling the RIAA/MPAA’s King Kong.

          The trend, to date, has been consolidation of media properties under fewer and more hegemonic distributors. And now we’re seeing a couple of economic Titans battle over the position of “Last Legitimate Music Vendor”.

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      Ya, I kind of like the idea of code being put somewhere else just in case. It sucks it’s China, but I hate to see anything centralized in one company, especially if it’s a big public, good like Github and all it’s code.

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      The only issue I see is that they make a new Chinese equivalent for GitHub where they can censor code easier (or was GitHub already blocked?), but they already censor everything anyway so there’s probably effectively no change.

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        Does it though? You can still put up a fork somewhere else as long as you uphold the license right? Unless I guess in the case where the license explicitly disallows forks, but I don’t think that’s very common (can you even do that?).

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          Forks are derivative works (quite obviously) so yes you can forbid them via license terms. Whether or not that’s still open source, take it up with OSI. I vaguely recall that at least once upon a time there was some project that required modification to the code to be published as separate patches and it was generally accepted to be open source don’t ask me which.

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          Most GitHub repos don’t have a license, meaning you are not licensed to do anything with them. Rehosting them would be the same as rehosting an image you don’t have a license for.

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    With the obligatory “fuck everyone who disregards open source licenses”, I am still slightly amused at this raising eyebrows while nearly no one is complaining about MS using github to train their copilot LLM, which will help circumvent licenses & copyrights by the bazillion.

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      Came here to say this. As much as I don’t like china, there is really nothing to see (apart from the source, that’s for everybody to see).

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        This could be illegal for git repos that do not have a open source license that allows mirroring or copying (BSD, Apache, Mit, GPL, etc.) Sometimes these repos are more “source available” and the source is only allowed to be read, not redistributed or modified. I would say that this is more of a matter for each individual copyright holder, not Microsoft.

        But ultimately I agree, this really isn’t as big of a deal as people are making.

        edit: changed some wording to be clearer

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          China is a sovereign entity. I’m pretty sure they can decide foreign licensing laws don’t apply there.

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            China is a soverign state and they should make their own laws. However, China has promised repeatably that they will take IP concerns more strictly (trade deal with Trump in 2020 is one example of this promise). It seems of this moment they still use the World Intellectual Property Organization for inspiration for their IP laws. At one point, China did not acknowledge IP rights at all but chose to acknowledge them in order to secure foreign business trade. Being consistent is good for business; especially when it comes to international business.

            In 1980, China became a member of the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO). As of at least 2023, China’s view is that WIPO should be the primary international forum for IP rule-making. - Wikipedia

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              China has never been consistent. Doing business there is all about relations with the CCP. This is a perfect example of how an authoritarian regime differs from a liberal regime. One is bound by it’s promises and rules and the other binds it’s rules to it’s needs.

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      nearly no one is complaining about MS using github to train their copilot LLM

      What rock have you been living under??

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      If I look at a few implementations of an algorithm and then implement my own using those as inspiration, am I breaking copyright law and circumventing licenses?

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        As I am a big proponent of open source, there is nothing wrong even with copying code - the point is that you should not be allowed to claim something as your own idea and definitely not to claim copyright on code that was “inspired” by someone else’s work. The easiest solution would be to forbid patents on software (and patents altogether) completely. The only purpose that FOSS licenses have is to prevent corporations from monetizing the work under the license.

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          Well let’s say there’s an algorithm to find length of longest palindrome with a set of letters. I look at 20 different implementations. Some people use hashmaps, some don’t. Some do it recursively, some don’t. Etc

          I consider all of them and create my own. I decide to implement myself both recursive and hash map but also add certain novel elements.

          Am I copying code? Am I breaking copyright? Can I claim I wrote it? Or do I have to give credit to all 20 people?

          As for forbidding patents on software, I agree entirely. Would be a net positive for the world. You should be able to inspect all software that runs on your computer. Of course that’s a bit idealistic and pipe-dreamy.

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            again, I don’t have a problem with copying code - but I as a developer know whether I took enough of someone else’s algorithm so that I should mention the original authorship :) My only problem with circumventing licenses is when people put more restrictive licenses on plagiarized code.

            And - I guess - in conclusion, if someone makes a license too free, so that putting a restrictive (commercial) license or patent on plagiarized / derived work, that is also something I don’t want to see.

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              I have no problem copying code either. The question is at what point does it go from

              1. I’m reading code and doing research

              To

              1. I’m copying code

              How abstracted does it have to be before it’s OK? If you write a merge sort, it might be similar to the one you learned when you were studying data structures.

              Should you make sure you attribute your data structure textbook every time you write a merge sort?

              Are you understanding the point I’m trying to get at?

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                My trivial (non legal ;) answer is: If you are working for a corporation that is looking to patent something / make something closed license: the moment you ever looked at a single line of my code relevant to what you are doing, you are forbidden from releasing under any more restrictive license. If you are a private person working on open source? Then you be the judge whether you copied enough of my code that you believe it is more than just “inspired by”.

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        That depends on how similar your resulting algorithm is to the sources you were “inspired” by. You’re probably fine if you’re not copying verbatim and your code just ends up looking similar because that’s how solutions are generally structured, but there absolutely are limits there.

        If you’re trying to rewrite something into another license, you’ll need to be a lot more careful.

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          What’s the limit? This needs to be absolutely explicit and easy to understand because this is what LLMs are doing. They take hundreds of thousands of similar algorithms and they create an amalgamation of it.

          When is it copying and when it is “inspiration”? What’s the line between learning and copying?

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            I disagree that it needs to be explicit. The current law is the fair use doctrine, which generally has more to do with the intended use than specific amounts of the text/media. The point is that humans should know where that limit is and when they’ve crossed it, with motive being a huge part of it.

            I think machines and algorithms should have to abide by a much narrower understanding of “fair use” because they don’t have motive or the ability to Intuit when they’ve crossed the line. So scraping copyrighted works to produce an LLM should probably generally be illegal, imo.

            That said, our current copyright system is busted and desperately needs reform. We should be limiting copyright to 14 years (as in the original copyright act of 1790), with an option to explicitly extend for another 14 years. That way LLMs can scrape comment published >28 years ago with no concerns, and most content produced >14 years (esp. forums and social media where copyright extension is incredibly unlikely). That would be reasonable IMO and sidestep most of the issues people have with LLMs.

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              First, this conversation has little to do with fair use. Fair use is when there is an acceptable reason to break copyright. For example when you are making a parody or critique or for education purposes.

              What we are talking about is the act of reading and/or learning and then using that information in order to synthesize new material. This is essentially the entire point of education. When someone goes to art school, they study many different artists and their techniques. They learn from these techniques as they merge them together in different ways to create novel art.

              Everybody recognizes this is perfectly OK and to assume otherwise is absurd. So what we are talking about is not fair use, but extracting data from copyrighted material and using it to create novel material.

              The distinction here is you claim when this process is automated, it should become illegal. Why?

              My opinion is if it’s legal for a human to do, it should be legal for a human to automate.

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                What we are talking about is the act of reading and/or learning and then using that information in order to synthesize new material.

                Sure, but that’s not what LLMs are doing. They’re breaking down works to reproduce portions of it in answers. Learning is about concepts, LLMs don’t understand concepts, they just compare inputs with training data to provide synthesized answers.

                The process a human goes through is distinctly different from the process current AI goes through. The process an AI goes through is closer to a journalist copy-pasting quotations into their article, which falls under fair use. The difference is that AI will synthesize quotations from multiple (many) sources, whereas a journalist will generally just do one at a time, but it’s still the same process.

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      Are you just trying to make a bad pro-China argument or have you never been online before?

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        I see it more as a good anti-Microsoft argument 🤷🏻‍♀️

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          “Why does no one say murder is bad unless China is murdering”

          Isn’t a good anti-murder argument

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            “Why does no one say murder is bad unless China is murdering”

            I can not fathom how you absolutely nailed the essence of my comment, yet misunderstood it (and - arguably - your own example) so fundamentally.

            Let me try to help, once:

            “Why do most people not complain about murder when Microsoft is doing it, but when China is doing it, the very justified outrage can be heard?”

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              I cannot fathom how you absolutely nailed the essence of my comment, yet misunderstood it (and - arguably - your own example) so fundamentally.

              People do criticize Microsoft for using open source data to train LLMs, just like people criticize murder

              Hence the query about having never been on the internet before

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      Not like MS couldn’t be sued.
      It may be expensive but possible.
      Unlike China. Good luck suing china (or the chinese government) as a whole. Maybe you’ll get out a domestic ban but I can hardly believe that they will care and probably will continue with their operation. But now it’s not on very legal grounds.

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      while nearly no one is complaining about MS using github to train their copilot LLM,

      Lots of people complained about that. I’ve only seen this single thread complaining about this.

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    It is a new “internet” archive without copyright bla bla? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    If it’s a public repo do they need permission?

    Not saying this is good, but you can’t really argue that it’s not a natural consequence of open source.

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      I’m noticing this misconception in a lot of places.

      Just because something is on GitHub, doesn’t mean it’s open source.

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        I get what your saying, in that open source projects normally have a licence that applies to how it’s used - but this has always been open to abuse.

        Nothing has ever stopped things like this happening - see how industry has taken advantage of open source for decades (often productising things as their own in the process).

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          The industry takes advantage of open source projects that have permissive licenses. This is an important distinction.

          If you didn’t release your code with a permissive license (or even with a license at all), you have rights that protect you and your code. The only issue is that copyright infringement can often be hard to prove if you didn’t plan ahead for it.

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        Obviously it functionally very much is. If you wanted to keep it closed source you’d host it on your own servers or even keep it offline.

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          No, this is not correct at all! You keep limiting yourself to the terms “open source” and “closed source”.

          Any code you create, you own by copyright. Even if it is public on GitHub, you’re still the lone copyright owner and no one is legally allowed to do with it what isn’t allowed by a license.

          Projects on GitHub without an open source license are only “functionally open source” to the same extent that pirated games are “functionally free”.

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            Copyright is an arbitrary concept. If a country decides to ignore it, then they can do what they want with a publicly-visible resource.

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            If you want to use piracy language then this is privateering. It would be piracy except for the fact that they’ve got the backing and protection of a major country.

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            Oh I get the theoretical difference. I’m talking about functional difference. Good luck taking China to patent court.

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                  If someone infringes on a copyright that doesn’t mean the work isn’t copyrighted. You can’t just say things that are source available are open source. Even if someone is infringing on the rights holders they’re still only source available.

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        All major licenses allow it. GPL-family, BSD-family, MIT/X11, CC-family. Anything FSF-approved or OSI-approved.

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          Most projects on GitHub don’t have a license, which means it’s not allowed.

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    Great! Now I know who to contact when I accidentally delete all the plaintext API keys and passwords I had stored in a public github repo.

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      Apart from the dozens of scrape bots that already stole them?

      You’re supposed to revoke API keys that are leaked. Not try to “unleak” them

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    Classic Chinese tech co, if you can’t create something on your own just download the source files and say you made it. The money spends the same after the fact, anyhow.

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    Solution: create a GitHub repo with Markdown articles outlining human rights abuses by the CCP and have a large number of GitHub users star and fork the repo.

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      That’s the whole point of this: they will automatically filter that out, and this is an impotent, though well intended, gesture.

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        The real solution is to include a few tiananmenSquare variables in all the repositories. Either they exclude the entire repository or just the specific file, in either case the entire project may be unusable.

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          So… You’re saying instead of “main”, “app”, or “core”, we should change the convention to make tiananmenSquare the entry point for apps?

          Or maybe make it the filename for utils, so it’ll just break

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            For example.

            But honestly I was more joking. The thing that makes most projects useful is the developers developing it, and they can’t clone that

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          It’s a new coding paradigm, I will take some time getting used to looking for libraries in the uyghur/tianamen folder.

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          China filters every byte of Internet traffic in and out of the country.

          It seems naive to think they can’t accomplish the same thing for a GitHub mirror.

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            They’re not supposed to, it’s just about blocking them from using the software :)

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        Yeah I figured as much. It was mostly a joke. At the end of the day, if stuff is on GH, people can take it. It’s barely even stealing. Unless the license disagrees of course but then you were putting a lot of trust in society by making it public in the first place.

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          That’s what I don’t get about this. Why does anyone care? Even this Chinese company, why do they care to clone it all? It’s already all hosted and publicly available.

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            Apparently they aren’t respecting licenses. It’s possible to have source code publicly available on GH but have it not be truly FOSS. But that’s generally not a great idea since you’re effectively relying on the honour system for people not to take your code.

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            Even this Chinese company, why do they care to clone it all? It’s already all hosted and publicly available.

            Until it isn’t. Perhaps they are preparing for a future war with the US and assume their access to all that code will be blocked. They want to copy it now while they have access.

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        How will they filter it out? If they just don’t mirror anything with ‘forbidden’ terms, we can poison repos to prevent them being mirrored. If they try to tamper with the repo histories then they’ll end up breaking a load of stuff that relies on consistent git hashes.

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          I feel like the effort to make such a repo and make it popular enough to be cloned and rehosted is a lot more effort than someone manually checking the results of an automated filter process.

          The “effort economy” is hugely in favor of the mirroring side

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        Tankie whataboutism strikes again.

        Two things can be bad at the same time. Wild, I know.

        Edit: also, the point of my joke wasn’t the human rights abuses. It is that these things are censored in China. So your comment is even more irrelevant. One could very easily create a repo outlining American crimes and put it on GitHub. But doing so in China with CCP crimes will have you sent to a Gulag

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                Lmao it’s literally the name of a logical fallacy. How is the term itself fallacious?

                Also I harbour no racism or ill will toward the Chinese people. My girlfriend is Chinese and I care about her a lot and love learning about her culture. I just don’t abide the human rights atrocities (or censorship thereof) committed by any government.

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      Maybe we should consider the same for the US government instead of being afraid of the big Chinese boogeyman across the sea? Because I guarantee you the US has just as many, if not more. But China bad. 🙄

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        50 Cent Army Repellant:

        六四

        1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre

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        I was making a joke about abusing Chinese censorship in order to stop them cloning GitHub repos (assuming that was something you wanted to do). The joke being that the CCP suppresses information about their human rights abuses. That is not true of the US. You could absolutely make a GitHub repo detailing the crimes of the US government. Nobody will stop you.

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      You’ve heard of CamelCase and lowercase and intVariableName variable naming styles. Get ready for:

      for (int Taiwan == 0; Taiwan < HongKong; Taiwan++) { int TianamenSquare == 0; … }

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      create a GitHub repo with Markdown articles outlining human rights abuses by the CCP

      Once you have logged “China killed 100 Zillion people! End CCP now!” in Chinese GitHub, everyone in China will realize that their lives are actually very bad and they need to do a Revolution immediately.

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        And here I was thinking that might prevent them mirroring the repo but whatever