And yet this is still many orders of magnitude more sane than thinking Donald Trump is fit to be president.
While Havana Syndrome is real, to my knowledge it’s not that refined. It should have impacted everyone in the room, Trump and the moderators included.
The known reports of the syndrome occupied entire floors of buildings. The idea that someone could use it and just target one guy is a little out there.
If he had some metal in him, that could make him more perceptive of microwaves. Dark Brandon T-100 confirmed?
Is Havana Syndrome real? I thought there was like 0 evidence for it and it being a form of hysteria.
The work done on it has been fascinating. You’d think if it were simple hysteria there would be outbreaks among the civilian population, but it’s always government employees.
Another source for those interested:
“Batshit conspiracy theories…not just for the far right anymore!”
If I could, I’d give him mine. He’s way more important than me.
Lol.
You know he’s not going to be the next president or even the nominee right?
When he becomes the nominee, what will you do?
I don’t need to worry about that, but I have standing wagers with several people here on lemmy and elsewhere that Biden both:
a) wont be the nominee,
and
b) wont be the next president.
So I’d have to pay up? But I’m not worried about that in the slightest at this point (I got a bit excited after his ‘decent’ state of the Union back in March that he might flip on Gaza, but no, he dug his grave further).
Too many other seats are on the line to run Biden.
I took several bets where I was able to get anything from 10:1 or 20:1 in a parlay for a) and b) back in April. I’m confident enough now to do even money if there is no time line associated with it (other than obvious ones like the convention). All in all I probably have about a couple hundred on the line right now? Its all on these two outcomes.
I’ll take 10:1 that Biden isn’t the nominee at the end of this week if you are willing to offer it, and even money that he isn’t the nominee (no timeline) or president. I’m also interested in parlays if you have any you want to propose.
I was meaning in the sense of would you vote for him? Would you support him?
He has to be capable of winning to be worth supporting.
In the past 500 days, at no point had Biden demonstrated any evidence that he can win the election. He didn’t campaign as a two term president in 2020, he specifically acknowledged he would only do one term. His polling has been abysmal, almost all of his term, when we know that he already suffers from a 12 point polling deficit on Trump (Biden needs to be beating Trump by 12 to beat him, statistically). His key policies are deeply, the ones that will define him as president, specifically Gaza and the border, are deeply unpopular with the key demographics he needs to win, specifically middle eastern voters in the upper Midwest and any one under 40.
So this all is, and always has been, on Biden, to do better on. He’s not a candidate that you can support with these outstanding issues because he can’t win an election with them. Supporting him inspire of those issues does nothing to change the fact that he can’t win. Infact, the blue maga blind support (orange man worse, blue no matter who, etc…) has significantly harmed our ability to beat Trump because it prevented any pressure being placed on Biden to become a better candidate.
Some one needing to earn your vote in a primary season is bigger than just getting your issues addressed. It’s about carving a candidate into someone popular enough to win an election. That’s how Biden won in 2020. He had to go caress and finesse various voting blocks into supporting him by becoming a candidate and having a platform they could get behind. And it worked. He won that election by stepping left and effectively cloning the entire progressive/ Bernie platform.
Pretending this guy can win is idiotic and doesn’t work. If for whatever reason we still end up with Biden as candidate, we’re going to lose this election. And it’s going to be because of the blue no matter who/ Blue maga crowd if we do lose. It’s an intentional ignorance they’ve maintained about how electoralism and elections work in an effort to shield an unelectable candidate from criticism, and lemmy.world, the news and politics C’s and their associated mods, are particularly rife with it. If we run Biden inspire of his obvious shortcoming which are frankly insurmountable at this point, I put three blame solely in those who made a concerted effort to lie/disguise/ and prevent discussion about his shortcomings as a candidate.
Blah blah blah, answer the question please. You talk like a politician. Would you support him?
Wow, and here I thought he was an old guy with a stutter getting flustered while a fascist fuckwad spewed inane garbage.
Why is this shocking? Havana Syndrome is blatantly real.
Seems possible.
Havana Syndrome is complicated and not well understood. It doesn’t happen randomly though. The best working theory was that it happened due to phones or other similar on-ear devices. It’s not space lasers or random shit like that
What is your proof that it’s not space lasers?
Hi. Jew here. We use our space lasers to start forest fires like Marjorie Taylor-Greene told you. Do keep up.
I’ve never listened to Marjorie Taylor-Greene.
Although I know there are racist conspiracy theories, it doesn’t mean all conspiracy theories are racist.
You have to get past the racism and flat-earthers to get to the REAL good conspiracy theories. Some of them end of being false, but some seem to be true. Either way they become more interesting.
Any Havanna Syndrome inflicted on Biden would likely be done by Russia and would be unrelated to Jewish people. Russia is the one with the most to gain from Biden losing, especially since the conspiracy theory is Trump is a Russian agent.
You do know that’s where the idea of space lasers comes from, right? She said Jews use them to start forest fires.
Whats your source on the phones/ear pieces? Ive read its directed microwaves most likely
Man, I swear I heard it. Probably on NPR. I can’t find it per se but I did find that it could come from devices concealed inside standard electronics, so I think a phone would make sense.
Yep, absolutely. It couldn’t possibly be that he’s an octogenarian with a known speech impediment, had to be directed energy weapons.
Also, allegedly had a cold and probably got flustered after the first time he tripped on his words. And inexplicably kept trying to recite various metrics from memory.
People really underestimate how bad a cold can be. When I’m sick, it’s so hard to function mentally that I can barely do my job.
I believe he was sick, and I believe this was just a case of unfortunate timing. What matters in politics is perception, though, and the perception isn’t good.
I’ll float the possibility that he took a slug of Nyquil™ before the debate, but forgot to chase it with a Red Bull™.
Didn’t he have a stutter when younger?
He’s always had it. But it was probably easier to manage it when he was younger.
known speech impediment
He had a childhood speech impediment. Overcoming those requires a concentrated effort, which we become less able to handle as we age.
Here’s Biden in 2008
https://youtu.be/eOombKZSsj4?si=hYe3kh-wkM2iemtY&t=1424
Here he is in 1987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRxOldhJ7Sw
In a way what’s happening now is a speech impediment, but it’s re-emerging as he loses ability in the same parts of the brain that handle critical thinking due to the normal effects of aging.
I’m just tired of so many people writing this stuff off. Like, it took 2 minutes to find those videos and show he hasn’t always been like this. He just couldn’t win until the only other option was trump. Even tho he was a much better candidate back then.
Quick edit:
Ironically something like the Havana weapon would actually cause this shit, it’s incredibly unlikely someone used it on Biden for the debate…
But it’s fucking 2024 y’all, who knows what’s real anymore I guess.
So, Gizmodo’s trying to toady up to The Onion, now?
Have you ever been in a TV studio with all the lights pointed at you?
That’s exactly what they are. Directed-Energy Weapons.Idiots can be on the left too.
Of course. GMOs and nuclear power
“I don’t understand nuclear power, therefore it is bad”
Also they had sex symbol Jane Fonda.
What is with the anti-reason luddites and being so good at getting porn stars on their side? Jenny McCarthy is another as well as PETAs small cohort of nude exhibitionist girls.
Maybe the next pandemic WHO should hire a few to do a “vaccines are sexy” promotion. Is that it? The only way to convince people to not die a preventable death is have someone with big tits give them the answer?
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Starting with the personal attack. Very convincing.
Notice how I included actual information along with my message and attacked the subject matter directly instead trying to dissolve the conversation into nothingness.
Notice
I noticed your comment got removed by the mods because you engaged in a personal attack.
Shrug. I thought we attacked ideas here not people. You know, unlike the luddite crowd does.
Haha your comment was removed
Haha your comment was removed
This means I don’t have to defend my made up implications now, haha!
That’s your 4th comment that doesn’t address what I said.
Curious.
Go ahead and tell people what you said
Some of us aren’t against GMOs for being genetically modified, we’re against patents on food.
All two of you must enjoy hanging out together.
Join us!
I’m busy I have to fly to the UK and throw paint on Stonehedge so I can raise awareness about a different pet issue next week.
I’m also against patents on food but this is a bad argument. GMOs are artificial and can reasonably be patented under the same rules as any other technology.
Patents in general must be abolished.
Some of us also are against massive overuse of glyphosate.
If I could fucking ban pesticides and antibiotics for agricultural use I absolutely would.
You’d probably kill millions of people unless you gradually overhauled the farming industry
Well, yes, but also if I actually had the power to make that change I would do it gradually through a market system for exactly that reason. One can dream, though.
One small change, Market systems are prone to market failures. They’re also rather inefficient, because there needs to be inefficiencies or else there’s no profit.
No, the best path to reducing pesticides and the over reliance on fertilizer is regulatory, with people on the ground checking compliance. Our food supply is too important to be left to the inefficiencies and corruption of “market solutions”
Oh no better keep poisoning everyone then!
GMOs come from the same company that created Agent Orange.
Hey, buddy what happened to your original comment? Since you clearly respect the truth so very much why don’t you tell the world what you said to me before? I thought it was quite insightful and a good representation of the anti-GMO position. In fact your comments about my intelligence were perhaps the single best, nay the best, arguments against GMOs I have ever seen.
Since you clearly respect the truth so very much why don’t you tell the world what you said to me before?
…so you want me to make the same comment again so it’s immediately removed?
No I want you to admit that your entire argument was a personal attack instead of facts, just like your movement.
I’m not admitting to something that I never said. 5th comment of diversion.
So you are claiming that you never insulted me, yes or no?
Which ones? There are lots of GMOs out there and they don’t all come from the same company
This guy here asking for facts from the anti-GMO position. Such high hopes for the human race! I remember being young and optimistic.
All of the ones meant to have pesticides poured on them.
Biden supporters aren’t really left wing though. The left is barely a thing in the US.
Define le left™
Does Biden even have supporters? Or just Trump haters? Who is actually enthusiastic for a second Biden term, rather than a not-Trump term?
Im kinda excited about his cabinet continuing but yeah. Biden could be replaced by one of those novelty singing fish and id be somewhat neutral to it still.
I don’t buy it in this particular case, but “directed energy” can do some funky things: https://youtu.be/J-SH18dtBlY?si=40dOJbu4O9ZWWCsZ
(No, it’s not a conspiracy theory video or any of that crap. Benn Jordan is a musician that likes all kinds of funky sound things.)
That’s exactly what I thought of when I saw this. Not saying it’s what happened but remembered this video
This is your occasional reminder that the conspiracy nutballs can be on the left sometimes too.
Dating has taught me this. I’m not sure I like this version of the multiverse.
They are not left or right. They are just people that strictly believe everything that has been disproven or is too stupid to bother disproving, as long as ANY thread of correlation can be made up between it and observable reality.
To be fair that correlates with being right wing for some reason
Watch Dan Olsen’s video on flat earthers. I’m having a hard time remembering details but the conspiracy theories are more of a symptom than anything. These people are looking for a community as well as an explanation for why the world is so fucked up, and why they are miserable. Anti-semitism and conspiracy theories are more satisfying than anything the left can provide.
The disconnect from reality combined with being prone to belief without proof.
Fantasy is like rocknroll. It will never die nor reinvent itself
That’s
Not the weirdest thing I’ve heard. Fuck this timeline
This community is called news. It should include news. Not some trash blog.
