• AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    I’ve read the lemmy.world responses, and they’re all predictably trash. The real answer is there’s no good way to tell if someone’s a kid because they’re plenty of mature 12 year olds and plenty of dipshit adults with poor writing skills (ie boomers). To rephrase the question, what is a dead giveaway that someone is actually not a kid?

    1. They talk about mid- to low-tier shows that your average zoomer wouldn’t know about. So someone talking about The Simpsons or Batman: The Animated Series doesn’t mean much, but someone talking about Biker Mice from Mars or Extreme Dinosaurs means they’re some millennial.

    2. They namedrop social media sites that no longer exist. Remember Xanga and Vine?

    3. They complain about body problems. Knees that feel funny before it rains. Bad back. Nose hair that never stops growing. And so on.

    4. They demonstrate an understanding on how old and obsolete technology works (typewriters, payphones, VCR, floppy disks, Limewire, DOS, modems, Blackberries). Like, average zoomers don’t know how to use those map guides that are in the form of a book.

    5. They remember how the pre-modern web was like or life before the web was like. Someone who’s <18 years old was born after 2006, when the modern web was still being build.

    6. They remember ancient memes and fads that are obscure enough that it isn’t some zoomer looking up random memes on knowyourmeme.

    7. They’re horribly out of touch with what kids enjoy. Notice this is different from passing judgment on what kids enjoy because they’re plenty of things I thought was stupid when I was a kid. But when you say shit like “only 13 year olds like Tiktok” or “only kids like Minecraft” yeah you’re just out of touch.

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      Also Minecraft is old as shit, I remember when it was just creative mode, no crafting as an early beta on a web page back in like 2009. That’s 15 years ago, Minecraft is almost old enough join the British army!!

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    Not sure if it’s the case anymore, but strong opinions were matched with EQUALLY STRONG STYLISTIC CHOICE!!!, often coupled with poor grammar/spelling, and a tendency to lean more towards rehashing the same opinion rather than making a rational argument for it.

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    When someone asks what’s a dead give away someone is a kid, it tells me they’re not old enough to remember the ASL days.

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    I can’t say there is one. Every time i think to myself something like “goddamn, this person is immature” I remind myself that there’s a high number of immature adults in the world including myself, so…?

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    Excessive swearing, as if they just learned how to say “fuck”.

    Not that any damn amount of fucking swearing means they are are a young fucker, but you can fucking tell when you read that shit and they manage nine goddamn swear words in one fucking sentence you know they’re a young bitch who aren’t allowed to swear any other damn time.

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      Or they speak English as a foreign language. Then all the swear words hold no value or weight, unlike in your native language.

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        Yeah, what’s this fucker on about? I’m an adult that doesn’t even get carded at the liquor store anymore, I fucking swear whenever I damn well please and as often as I give a shit to. Nothing wrong with some cursing, especially at those young fucks that won’t stay off my goddamned lawn. Shit, they’re at it again.

        Brb, gotta yell at some asshole kids.

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          Don’t get it twisted, I love cursing like a sailor and do so regularly. But when I see it excessively in an internet post that makes someone seem like they’re trying too hard to fit in with adults online and be extra edgy

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    For me personally the first tell is when they are morally loading every statement in an argument and are unable to engage with a topic directly. Adults should be able to discuss or debate certain topics on the value of the arguments alone without feeling pressured to include a declarative virtue signal in every clause.

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    I’m actually gonna give the benefit of the doubt and assume this is actually a grown idiot lol

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    Short of a birth year in their username, I’m not sure there is one. Almost everything in this thread is something millennials inflict on me daily.

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    I remember reading that when national parks tried to make a ‘bear-proof’ trashcan, they found that there was a larger overlap between the smartest bear and the stupidest human to make a viable product.

    I feel like it’s a similar situation here. The smartest kid and the stupidest adult are far more similar than we’d like to admit.

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    When they’re adamant that voting third party in the United States will be useful in some capacity, I assume they’re 13

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      Conversely: when they say this is the most important election of “our lifetimes”, and the world will end if we lose.

      (Doesn’t mean they’re wrong)

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      The youngsters are downvoting you, but what you’re saying is sad but true. It’s the reason Bernie never ran as an independent, he knew it would hand the victory to republicans on a silver platter.

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      You would need some real insurance that others were commuted to vote 3rd party no matter what. Otherwise the real benifit is just getting to that 5% mark where third parties get some bennies like federal funding and automatic ballot access in some places. Which is minor vs say stopping a campaign of vengeance from a candidate who has acted feloniously already and has abused his position to black bag political opponents before.

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      Why not vote 3rd party in states that only go one direction? Take NY for instance. What the fuck harm comes from voting 3rd party assholes for president? One time the state elected a republican candidate and it was (still is I think) the largest landslide in history. I’m 36 and have always hated the 2 party system. It’s been easier and easier as I got older too with increasing political polarity.

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        Because if enough people do that, it actually can result in that state not “doing what it always does.”

        Assuming voting for X is going to result in Y getting elected over Z “anyways” is not a good strategy for getting what you want.

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          What I want is more than 2 fucking options. What you are assuming is that I wouldn’t get what I want if a conservative won NY. For this to happen there would need to be a mass exodus of democrats abandoning their party to vote conservative. So for that to happen either the democratic candidate is God awful or the conservative is a homerun. Either way I dont give a fuck.

          I vote for my interests in state and local elections. Presidential elections in NY are the least concerning elections as they should be for every fuckin American.

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            If you want more than two options vote for Democrats in primaries that support ranked choice voting initiatives. As it stands, you realistically have a binary choice and until you have ranked choice voting that will continue to be true.

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      Almost anyone with an irrational political stance betrays their youth.

      Political ideology has always captivated the passions of youth, but isn’t successfully implemented or even internalized except by people with age and experience and emotional regulation.

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        I agree with you. Do you think people become more conservative with age or is it society becoming more progressive and leaving them behind? Obviously ignoring the current regressive times of the last eight+ years there.

        To contribute an answer to the original question I offer this post as evidence of age- thinking about how much has changed during my life may have come through above.

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          Do you think people become more conservative with age or is it society becoming more progressive and leaving them behind?

          I am getting up there in years and seeing this play out over and over.

          I think every generation wants to be more progressive than the last, but we tend to carry baggage of fear and insecurity through the generations. Or more specifically, older people tend to gain the political and monetary capital needed to affect policy and shape our societal outlook and attitude. They will always be more conservative than the younger generation who will want more freedoms and personal rights, inherently, and as the ruling class will clash with newer sensibilities, over and over.

          What we’re asking here, is the conservatism reflected in our elders and leadership now broadly more harmful or helpful? Are we out of the touch or is it the kids who are wrong?

          I think it’s a mix but mostly it’s not our real problem. Our real problem is that no matter what our age, we have greatly misunderstood how our own existence works. Most people have been taught that they have brains designed to exercise logic and reason and that brains are the best thing ever if you use them and make them smart.

          No, our brains are not logical tools. We are not a rational species. There was no “age of enlightenment.” It’s all a hoax. Our brains are tools designed to write a story to explain how you feel. And that’s it. It doesn’t even have to make sense. When we all learn how our brains actually work we will collectively make better decisions, have more compassion for each other, and likely sink into even deeper despair as we all start to realize we have no free will.

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      I don’t assume they are 13, but they at least aren’t old enough to remember what happened in 2016.

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        Or any other election year, for that matter. I don’t think a third party candidate has gotten a significant voter block in 100 years.

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          Yep. A third party candidate hasn’t gotten a single electoral college vote since George Wallace, and the only time a third party has done better than either a Democrat or a Republican was with Theodore Roosevelt and his Bull Moose party, which crushed Taft but got absolutely obliterated in turn by Wilson due to the spoiler effect.

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          Ross Perot got 18.9% of the popular vote in 1992. While he didn’t get any electoral votes he likely prevented a second HW Bush term.

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              Source on this? I was young but I remember that election. Perot seemed to be like some kind of ultracapitalist “run the country like a business” moron that people respected because he was rich. My grandpa loved him and I rarely heard him talk politics. He was also only educated to the sixth grade for what that’s worth.

              Seems like the kind of guy to take a bite out of the conservative vote.

              I’m gonna fix my ignorance and go look him up right now though.

              Edit-- I’m back, learned a lot. I love that he supported electronic direct democracy way back in 1992. He was in favor of gun control and money for AIDS research. Openly supported gay rights in 1996 but notably not until his second campaign when he really had no chance.

              He didn’t believe trickle down economics worked. Was a billionaire who spoke against greed which is really strange. But me calling him an ultracapitalist is probably misplaced. Also not a moron. He was into taxing the wealthy, starting to like this guy, but balancing the budget by cutting social programs, nevermind do not like.

              He opposed outsourcing factory jobs and favored environmental protection. He wanted to decrease the budgets of both the military and NASA. Wanted to cancel the space station.

              Quite the complicated guy. I love some of his policies and hate others. Seems like a weird mix when viewed through a modern lens. I think I’d have considered voting for him if I was ten years older in '92. Probably would have voted for Clinton though who notably achieved one of Perot’s primary goals, which was to balance the budget.

              So I ended up researching Clinton’s campaign and it was straight up racist against black people. He also pledged to end welfare “as we know it”. I think I actually would have voted for Perot! Maybe there’s something to what you’re saying about reducing Clinton’s margin of victory.

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      I know a full grown adult that does that in every election. Local elections, sure, I can understand, but he does that with all of them, Basically a card carrying communist that’s a useful idiot for right wing politicians.

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    Asking basic questions that can usually be answered with internet experience (“how do bans/kicks work”, or “what is an administrator”, “what is LAN” etc.)

    Flaunting “new” features that existed on older products. (“This game let’s us upload our own music to soundtrack!”, “I’ve never seen a platformer like this” etc.)

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    Their usernames are the random ones proposed by the platform, such as Lazy_Platform_34.