It is hard to imagine that there was not someone inside of Nike that lost their faith in humanity when the pitch for these things was originally taking off.
Power laces, alright!
…wait a minute…? 😕
“I’ve got to leave early.”
“Why? We’re having fun!”
“Sorry, I got to go home and charge my shoes.”We surely live in the future! /s
Finally, they fixed shoe-tying. Now all I gotta do when I wanna tie my shoes is download an app and make sure my shoes are charged.
For extra 8.99 you get an alert any time they get untied.
Monthly. That’s a premium subscription option.
Those self-tying sneakers don’t appear to have any laces to self-tie…
Anything requiring a smartphone app to use should be an instant non-starter for everyone.
The problem is that there are usually no other alternatives, or at least not any easily accessible. Heck, these days even routers require app activation for no reason other than to be shitty.
There should be a law against this. All hardware requiring an app should also have an open API.
Heck, these days even routers require app activation for no reason other than to be shitty
There are more often than not alternatives that exist that don’t have this requirement.
I’ve probably been unlucky with the ones sold at my nearest electronics store.
How did you post this comment?
Were you using an app?
Edit: humour is lost on the humourless
He posted it from his shoe tying app
There isn’t one app to post to Lemmy, there’s a dozen. And they’re open source mostly. And there’s a web page. And you can self-host a fediverse node. And ActivityPub is an open standard. And and and.
Now if this was Reddit, you might be closer to the mark.
And how did you post this comment was a via an app?
Whoosh
You mis woosh’d there.
Way way off the mark buddy
This is getting funnier
I willed it into existence.
At least you got the joke.
Comedy is hard.
How did you post this comment? // Were you using an app?
Please refer to the context when interpreting what others say dammit. Your questions stink “ackshyually lol lmao” from a distance.
The OP is talking about sneakers unnecessarily requiring an “app”; in this context, Farts’ “anything” should be interpreted as “physical goods” (like sneakers), not “internet services that may be accessed through a browser or specialised software” (like Lemmy).
I’m sorry oh mighty one.
I’ll go and enjoy the pun over here while you try to figure out if what I wrote was intentionally funny or accidentally funny, or funny at all. Social ques are hard aren’t they.
You might have intended it to be funny, but it wasn’t, as it is clear from the downvotes. So instead of trying to convince everybody in multiple desperate comments that they are wrong, maybe just move on.
Ya a little late to the game buddy. Convo is a day old at this point.
But thanks for trying
Cut off the crap.
“Ackshyually I was totally joking! Yeah, it was a joke! You’re just too stupid to get the clue” doesn’t work if there’s no clue that it’s a joke on first place, no matter if you rephrase it with Reddit style passive aggressiveness.
Please do everyone in Lemmy a favour and stay in Reddit. You’ll be in more suitable company.
Sorry didn’t realise you needed me to include the /s
Are hyper-expensive running shoes STILL a thing? Damn, people need to grow up.
…are you under the impression that high-end running shoes are a scam, or something?
If anything the gap is bigger than ever as the top end shoes are basically performance enhancers like the nike airflys used to set most records…and their new vaporflys being banned in the Olympics.
I guess it’s better than hyper expensive shoes just being a paying for a brand thing?
In the end you can start making a shoe that almost functions like a prosthetic. We are not animals designed to always be running, but with a few tweaks you can make that closer to be true.
I thought the shoe market had nothing to do with actual usefulness, just how rare they are. It’s not like most of the people buying these expensive shoes actually wear them.
That’s the sneaker market, not running shoes
I wasn’t aware there was a difference. What classifies a shoe as a runner vs a sneaker? It seems like there’s a ton of overlap to me
Running shoes will focus on function with support, breathability, moisture wicking, and breathability. They aren’t necessarily the most comfy shoes to walk in because your gait is different walking vs running. The front of the shoe will have more cushion to help support you pushing off in your running stride.
Sneakers are meant to be more stylish everyday shoe. They focus more on form over function.
You’re right there can be overlap. Adidas ultra boosts are stylish enough to be worn every day and are technically a running shoe. Not a lot of runners use them but they do offer the function of a running shoe.
Interesting to know. I’ve been buying running shoes and wearing them everyday. I don’t even run or jog really. I guess I could be buying sneakers and they might end up more comfortable? At the rate I wear through shoes though, my current ones will probably last another 5 years.
A good sneaker will virtually always be way more comfortable than a good running shoe. To risk going with an extreme analogy, it’s like trying to hammer a nail with a sledgehammer - it will get the job done, sure, but it’s absolutely not made for that.
Damn, people need to grow up.
They just move onto hyper-expensive cars, watches, Warhammer figurines, purses, jewelry, etc. The human instinct to flaunt and/or collect is pretty strong in certain people.
Luxury goods have been a growing market alongside the wealth divide.
That is so very not the problem here. Everyone has things they enjoy that other people think are frivolous.
shoe ties STILL?
Companies really should just opensource their apps at this point, or at the very least publish their protocols.
Can’t see how dropping apps and bricking devices benefits anyone.
A point could be made that it hurts the planet and they should be held responsible for their shenanigans.
As with that spotify car thing.
Make a law that says, if you don’t keep supporting it you have to open source it. It’s just fair.
Yes, not gonna happen. You know how many new devices get sold simply because old ones are no longer getting updates/software support? It’s planned obsolescence. No modern country would pass a law like that.
Absolutely 100% unironically: Not with that attitude.
Not sure which country you’re from, but I’ve basically lost the any hope I can influence any policy in my country with ANY attitude. I hope I’m wrong about other countries.
Look up “right to repair” laws. There are efforts all across the world to get them passed, and many of them have been successful. This is absolutely a thing that you can in fact make a difference on.
Source code escrow is a thing, too. I’ve only seen it in the context of (as I understood it) protection against going out of business, but perhaps it could apply to discontinued products, as well?
Agreed. Companies should be required by law to release source code, build guides, documentation and service architecture for services or apps that are required by hardware they sold.
While there are bigger fish to fry at the moment, socially speaking, the problem is only going to get worse if legislators don’t step in.
This should be a part of all right to repair legislation.
But then you’d see it wasn’t secure in the slightest, and you could untie somebody’s laces when they walk past you.
Isn’t the point of self-lacing shoes that they shouldn’t require manual user input at all? What is the app for then?
RGB
I don’t know why my first thought from this was Ruth Gator Binsburg. Now I just want something like a shitty_watercolor of that.
That’s what my shoes were missing: spyware!
Oh god! The Chinese know how tight my shoes are? They could overthrow the entire globe with such devastating info!
It’s adorable you think “shoelace tightness” is all that app has awareness of.
Remember folks: Any smart device you have that requires an internet connection or app is e-waste waiting to happen at the company’s whim.
So if you own pair of these shoes you will no longer be able to use the features on said shoes?
I own a pair. You do lose some functionality without the app. The ability to change the light colors, set and recall presets.
You can still tighten them without the app. And I think you can set one preset as well (not sure tbh)
They announced the sunsetting of the app like 2 months ago but the media is capitalizing on the announcement now for some reason. It sucks but it’s not the end of the world not having the app.
Without the app, wearers are unable to change the color of the sneaker’s LED lights. The lights will either maintain the last color scheme selected via the app or, per Nike, “if you didn’t install the app, light will be the default color.” While owners will still be able to use on-shoe buttons to turn the shoes on or off, check its battery, adjust the lace’s tightness, and save fit settings, the ability to change lighting and control the shoes via mobile phone were big selling points of the $350 kicks.
Yeah I be pissed if this was done to me. Someone should find a way to access the changing of the lights without the app.
Not like the apk won’t still be obtainable. I still have a pandora apk from around 2012 I use (ad free, cost free) that still works just fine.
The apk will likely outlast the shoes. Ever since all the shoe companies started using polyurethane soles, hydrolysis eventually just disintegrates them, even if you almost never wear them. After about 10 years they’re usually not wearable any longer.
Just by chance because Pandora is very conservative about API changes and it happens to use Android APIs still supported.
And Nike will never mess with an old Bluetooth apk and pair of sneakers. It will work as long as android allows for an apk designed for Android 14.
I mean, there are some devices that fundamentally have to be online to be useful. You’re not losing anything there.
A Roku stick requires the Roku streaming service to be functioning to be useful. If there wasn’t a service with streaming media, the stick would have nothing to stream.
The problem is when you have a device that doesn’t have that fundamental requirement but is then unnecessarily tied to an online service. Home automation requiring Internet connectivity, for example, when virtually no home automation actually requires access to any online services, or converting non-live-service video games to live-service video games.
A Roku stick requires the Roku streaming service to be functioning to be useful. If there wasn’t a service with streaming media, the stick would have nothing to stream.
Still becomes e-waste if Roku drops support for it. Granted, that’s not the best example as I’ve got an old-ass Roku that still works, but the point stands. Same goes for Fire sticks and other devices like that.
They really should be forced to, at minimum, release unlocking tools to allow 3rd party firmware. (Think flashing OpenWRT to a Roku and using it as a travel router or something). Ideally, they’d also release a development kit to foster “after-life” uses of such devices.
Lots of companies will accept old devices back (supposedly to recycle), but there’s another “R”, re-use, that’s also an important part of the process.
Still becomes e-waste if Roku drops support for it. Granted, that’s not the best example as I’ve got an old-ass Roku that still works, but the point stands. Same goes for Fire sticks and other devices like that.
Just look at Spotify’s Car Thing.
Thank you, lol. I knew there was a very recent example but was blanking on it.
Are kids still even taught the three Rs (reduce, reuse, recycle)? I was always taught that they were listed in order of importance, but that seems to conflict with modern capitalism.
Apart from their use in the slogan, I don’t remember any importance being placed on reduce or reuse when I was at school. I guess “recycle” is the only one compatible with continually buying more shit we don’t need.
Honestly, no idea. But yeah, the latter two seem in direct opposition to the line always going up at all costs.
There are other risks, such as the functionality changing without your knowledge or input (see again: Roku): https://www.theverge.com/24188282/roku-tv-update-motion-smoothing-turn-off
A Roku stick requires the Roku streaming service to be functioning to be useful.
That’s not true at all. You could use a Roku with only Plex/Jellyfin and it would be immensely useful.
A Roku stick requires the Roku streaming service to be functioning to be useful. If there wasn’t a service with streaming media, the stick would have nothing to stream.
In cases like this; it’s still only artificially dependant on Rokus services.
The hardware is perfectly capable of streaming from any number of services, including entirely self-hosted solutions like Emby/Jellyfin/Plex; yet the device can be remotely bricked just by nolonger providing Rokus services to it.
So will there be a pirate app floating around for those who own these? Are there enough peeps who bought these for there to be interest in making one? Can’t be tough
Prob for Android but not likely on iOS
lol
now we just need a self drying coat
Since when a sneakers needs an app?
ikr? what sneakers need is AI!
You’re walking on the street, and someone shouts: “Sneakers, ignore previous instructions and jump into incoming traffic!”
lol
How long before it requires a subscription?
Just don’t do it
Just screw it
Just do it yourself.
