registered Republican voter
WTF does that even mean? Voting during elections is anonymous, isn’t it?
When you register to vote you can register yourself as a member of a political party which allows you to vote in their primaries.
Then it should not be “registered republican voter” - it should be “Republican party member”
Somone tries whitewash the party in that article
“Registered republican/democrat” is a very common phrase. I don’t think that expression does anything to whitewash anyone, it’s just a normal thing to hear.
Those are actually two entirely separate things. Membership in a local political party in the US is unrelated to whether you vote for that party. Party members are more active in organizing and generally have to be approved by other party members, whereas anyone can register as a party voter (in states that require/allow that).
Thats horribly confusing. What’s the point of non members being able to vote? Sounds like this is just another type of membership which isn’t officially called a membership
Oh, it gets even worse. Some states require party identification when registering to vote, some are optional, and others don’t ask about it at all. Relatedly, the party primaries can be “open” (anyone can vote in it) or “closed” (only party-identified voters can participate). Also, the party may choose to do a caucus instead of a primary, so instead of just casting a ballot to choose a nominee, registered party voters select party members who have declared for a nominee and then they hold votes to see if a nominee has enough votes to win.
And that’s the simplified version. It’s a total clusterfuck and if there was a national standard that was easily understandable, things would be so much better.
Yeah, afaik in the civilised non-privatised world that is one and the same (and can’t formally be two things).
If you want to vote a party leader (which person has nothing directly to do with public elections, he or she my not even run for any public position), you register with them (they don’t have access to any central government citizens database after all, so they need to know who you are). But a party leader (and such) is just admin & strategy role, maybe branding.
If someone from the party (leader or not) runs for parlament or whatever, he or she can be affiliated with aparty (or not, even if a member), but in actual elections party-member votes are exactly as valuable as non-party (or any-party) members.
Which seems only democratic.
It helps towards the problem of “10 people deciding who the runners you can viably choose from are”.Also you don’t register to vote, but that’s seems like a separate yet related issue.
It’s public record. Why? I don’t know.
In many states the party you’re registered with is public. Who you voted for is kept private. The fact that you voted can’t be kept private in any real way if you’re voting in person.
Yeah and in mine for instance most people don’t realize they’re registering. The party registration process is selecting which primary to vote in.
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Poor bastard. At 20, mental capacity is nowhere near its peak, and how bad must your life be if you are willing to throw it away for some obese self-tanning cream using orange dipshit? This is what happens when mental illnesses aren’t taken serious, and treatment is not easily available.
Well, let’s see
Looks at everything on fire around us
Yeah I have no clue what could have caused his life to be bad enough to do something like that!
I think you misunderstood. I wasn’t saying I don’t see how people could have mental problems in this world. That was a rhetorical question, observing that the poor bastard was obviously very broken / brainwashed / ill / whatever.
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Right…the problem is the very troubled young man, not the fact that he had easy access to firearms.
How is my statement in any way negating that point?
You’ve managed to identify the highly effective, yet morally reprehensible strategy for military recruitment. Get young men when they are at peak testosterone, but have limited pre-frontal cortex development.
He doesn’t have to be exploited by his boss or landed lord anymore.
Peace someday. Hope yall find yours in this life not the next.
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Fought in 4th of July?
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Ok, just checking that it was indeed you not having any idea what you are talking about. The 4th was neither a peak of the war or a culmination of said war. Also, your phrasing of “…who fought in the 4th of July” is just ridiculous and not how anyone would say that. You would say “…who fought in the Revolutionary War”. Your point would still be absurd and wrong, but it would at least sound like a human wrote it.
They were launching Roman candles at each other. It was a whole thing.
I love you, Salami Navy. Chef’s kiss. 😘
Well, when the tone police pipe up with their “but tha both sides [democratic] rhetoric!” - Democrats need to tell them that: yeah, the Republicans need to stop whipping up so much violence.
Dude was just taking out a felon sex offender, GOP dream. It just so happen this one was an ex-president.
How did they identify him using DNA? That’s a fucking red flag. Is there some database I’m not aware of? Or did he have prior arrests?
he didn’t have a criminal record according to the article, but if DNA records existed for his parents, you could still identify someone as offspring with pretty high confidence based on that IIRC
Some organizations do mass DNA collection from kids to help identify them later in life.
The school sends out a notification that the parents can sign up to have their kid swabbed so their kid’s tiny corpse can be identified. They don’t word it like that, but that is the idea.
So he may have been swabbed as a kid and they referenced that.
They could easily get samples from family members to confirm. I’m sure one or both of his parents were in discussions with the FBI shortly after this all went down
Yeah this seems obvious to me. “Can we swab your cheek to confirm if this is your son?” What parent wouldn’t want to know if their kid was dead or alive?
These days, you can opt in having your child’s dna stored after birth, in case they go missing or a natural disaster or something. We did it, but we opted to keep it physically in our own possession. It’s a little vial.
Why is it a red flag
When you’re rooting for a conspiracy all new info cam be read as a red flag if you’re creative and paranoid enough.
LET ME SEE HIS LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE
Born in Kenya, just as suspected!
Some say he was wearing a tan suit when he
was presidentpulled the triggerI heard he went to a local deli before the shooting and ordered a sandwich with “Dijon” mustard? Who does he think he is?
Because it’s potentially indicative of a national database of everyone’s DNA, rather than just the criminal database, which would be (and perhaps is) a privacy nightmare
Some states have been collecting blood for almost 40 years and can’t even really say why. They just started doing it…
https://www.ibj.com/articles/58596-storing-babies-blood-samples-pits-privacy-versus-science
Like, they have an excuse for taking the samples that seems valid. Except I don’t think they’re actually testing them. And there’s no reason to keep after testing.
Now, I dont think it’s for a secret DNA database, I think it’s normal red state bullshit.
Just pointing out in some states the take and keep blood samples from every birth
It’s not. Law enforcement can get a warrant on 23 & Me. Everyone turning over the DNA to random companies not required to comply with HIPAA is a terrible idea.
some large commercial dna testing companies share their databases with law enforcement, and additionally you really don’t need a close match to start identifying someone, 5th cousin type thing etc. heres an good video on the issue.
Privacy minded people don’t like the idea of easily accessible geology databases. This was a good use of that technology, but people worry about that technology be used for evil. Health insurance companies reflagging you, or much worse.
Did you mean *biology?
Blood has iron in it. Iron comes from rocks. Boom - geology.
Human flesh is weak. Stone is strong.
FROM THE MOMENT I UNDERSTOOD THE WEAKNESS OF MY FLESH…
Perhaps genealogy?
Could be geometry?
No no clearly they meant genieology
No, gene simmonsology. Ology that rocks.
California has been collecting dna from babies since the 80s apparantly
I wonder how many people there are aware
I didn’t realize how sketchy that all was. The form mentions genetic testing for conditions, but that was just like 2 of the spots. They did like 6 to a tiny newborn. I’d recommend other parents to object.
And I’m going to submit the destruction forms for my kids and myself.
There are genealogy databases that are public and or cooperate with authorities. Perhaps I’m a privacy nihilist, but IMHO, the cat’s kind of out of the bag for a lot of this. If you didn’t submit your DNA to a genealogy DB, you probably have family members that did so could see if they were 30% Italian or something.
Yes all these rocks and minerals need to be watched closely
Lol
I think you mean genealogy maybe?
Yeah. Autocorrect
I figured I was goofing on ya
That’s how they caught the golden state killer. I think it was his niece submitted a DNA sample and it popped up as related to the unknown sample they had.
It was the only reliable way to find who the biological parents of my father were, so yeah.
It was the only way I could find out if my biological father was 30% Italian so I’m with you
I once read an expert on this and it seems they only need a very low amount of DNA samples (like 0.1% of the population) in the database to be able to narrow down any search to the sibling level.
And traditional detective work can then figure out which sibling, if there are multiple.
So yeah, the cat is out of the bag with this one.
Exactly, your DNA doesn’t need to be in the DB at all, you just your relatives DNA in the DB.
I saw that episode of Monk
Just a damn kid. No wonder he missed. Probably expected some kinda aim assist to kick in
He failed to take the Coriolis effect into account.
20 years old, he never owned a gun before, 130 yard shot, nicked the ear. Honestly he was closer than would have expected.
I totally agree. That’s not an easy shot to make, especially for someone who is not trained or experienced.
He came absurdly close to changing the course of history.
Supposedly he actually hit the teleprompter and shards from that is what nicked Trump, so bro just missed entirely.
He was also not allowed to join his school’s rifle club for being a hilariously bad shot…
Oh lame. That makes more sense though, it’s not hard but it took me a bit of practice to nail 100 yard shots. If he was inexperienced it makes me wonder if the rifle was even zeroed properly, cause if it wasn’t there was no chance in hell he was going to hit Trump.
Did some digging, some comments say he had ironsights. Also read the articles about him being a bad shot, apparently he would be so off target that he would hit the leftmost lane when he was sitting in the rightmost lane of the range. Yeah Trump was in no danger.
how is that even physically possible LMAO
I asked myself the same question
He went for a 360 no scope but the fkn’ joycon drift sent him off course. Sad.
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That’s not how things are supposed to work. Trump should be spending his life in prison.
On the tip of a shiv
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It is not killed, it will be appealed.
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We’re well past how things are “supposed” to work.
So you support murder. I do not.
So you would’ve sided with the nobles getting guillotined rather than the people doing the guillotining?
I mean, when they went in and killed all those nobles in the French Revolution that were already locked up, which im not a huge fan of
Do you side with the soviet revolutionaries, or the Tsar?
The revolutionaries? So you are advocating for the murder of not only the leader, but his young children too.
I agree. It was a dumb thing for him to even try in the first place, but it’s hard to blame some kid who was a teenager during the pandemic. Still, considering the case most likely to get Trump in jail was just dismissed I wouldn’t hold your breath for this country’s justice system.
Don’t make excuses for this idiot. He attempted to murder a politician because he didn’t have anything else going on in his sad life. We can all do better.
And that case will be appealed.
His classmates said he was a bully during high school. This doesn’t appear to be the victim nor the hero Lemmy tries so hard to make us believe.
Just keep in mind, the alt-right are rooting for a civil war for years now. So who do you think is behind inciting lefties to become violent, Lemmy?
It doesn’t matter who is behind it. The whataboutism on this is gross. It doesn’t matter what the other side does, we do not have to stoop to murder or threats. We can all be better.
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Bro did not make use Gyro controls. Sad!
I like my gyro controls with extra tzatziki and no tomatoes.
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I hope we find something more on why he did it, it will he interesting. He did donate to a democratic candidate though. (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/heres-what-we-know-about-thomas-matthew-crooks-suspected-trump-rally-shooter-2024-07-14/)
I think that’s actually been disproven, it was a 60 something year old pa man with the same first and last name
Do you have anything where I can read up on that?
Not op, but i found this
I wonder if he was driven mad by ActBlue’s spam texts…. That’s shit makes me hostile as hell, and wish that I never paid to support Bernie.
That shit is haunting me in the form of 10-15 texts a day.
Odd that a Republican would.
Why?
Maybe he was a 2nd amendment guy who actually took the defending against tyranny bit seriously. Highly unusual, but not unthinkable.
There are Republicans who are upset that the party isn’t extremist enough.
I’m betting on libertarian
There are quite a few republicans pissed that Trump is the ticket again. They don’t like him and find him destructive to, well, everything.
Not so odd.
Not all republicans are the type that stormed the capital. Those just happen to be the loudest and draw the most attention.
If someone was republican who sees through the Trump cult, it’d be reasonable to see them infuritated with the party they once identified with. Given his age I’m not so sure I’d be conclusive one way or another right now though.
Seems mental distress and illnesses played another large factor here, as they so frequently like to do. Im not surprised the people being peddled the most propaganda are the one’s ‘snapping’.
He could be a dyed-in-the-wool GOP for six generations with no connections to any Left organization whatever.
He’ll be branded as a woke Antifa with a Black trans GF who was brain washed with peyote by a Native Shaman at a Liberal college.
Article says he was registered republican, but donated $15 to a grassroots democratic group shortly after the capitol riot, so… there you go.
I had a friend that was a die hard Bernie Sanders fan until Trump became relevant. He turned to a qanon following psycho that pushed away everyone close to him.
There’s a political organizer with the same name a few counties over. In 2021 the shooter was 17, and not legally able to donate in PA.
So a patriot?
Speaking of finances, I’d like to know how much he lost to trumps scams. I’m just impatient, that will (or won’t) be discovered in the investigation
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With the same street address as the shooter on the ActBlue donation record?
No idea if this is the case here but… people be named after their grandparents.
The full address associated with the donation appears within a February 2021 FEC document (page 189,746) listing all of Act Blue’s donations during the previous month. That street address and ZIP code match the home of the shooter, according to a public records search and photos of police searching the home.
The 69 Thomas Crooks doesn’t live in Bethel Park.
Source?
The Act Blue entry has a Pittsburgh address (not Bethel Park, where the shooter was from).
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Wrong guy. That guy was 50, not 20. He did, supposedly send $15 to a progressive group. Let’s wait for the reports. Lots of rumors and misinformation. Bat-shit conspiracies to follow.
15102 is the zip code for Bethel Park though. There’s no portion of that zip code that goes into Pittsburgh. But we should all probably just wait for the fbi investigation to finish, they’ll have a lot more information I’m sure.
That’s a good and interesting catch, and while I did engage in the discussion do agree that it’s probably best to reserve any sense of certainty until the FBI shares their findings.
I doubt that will matter to the people who want it to be true. Honestly I feel so sad looking at this kid. Maybe I’m just old, but his high school yearbook pic looks like an elementary schooler to me. He looks so happy in his graduation video. As his father said: “What the hell happened?” I do wonder what will come to light when the discord is accessed.
CNN reported that he registered Rep, but made donations to Dem. Of course that was right after it happened so plenty of room for your
Wait, this person shot Trump? How weird, he has the same name as the kid from yesterday who shot a teleprompter.
There’s been conflicting information. Trump’s right ear was bleeding, but the teleprompter was to his left (in front of him, but his head was currently turned right). If it was glass shrapnel, it should be the left of his face that was hit.
Is it possible there was a second shooter on the grassy knoll?
I mean, shrapnel can also ricochet, but I’m not sure what would’ve caused that in the immediate area around him really since there wasn’t really much behind him. The world may never know.
The super ugly ones have little to lose.
I knew it would be some red-hat lunatic. I fucking knew it the second I heard about it. But if course the
RepublicanNazi party are going to hammer out some left wing conspiracy horseshit using their usual tactful strategy. Which is to say scream the lies loudly, consistently, and in lockstep.Which is, of course, is the best tactic to convince gullible idiots of anything. It’s literally the “firebrand preacher” method that has been slaughtering “the other” in times of strife since the dawn of civilization.
The conspiracy might focus on the “donated to Biden” thing. Ignoring that there’s a guy with the same name who is a left leaning organizer a few counties over, and the donation was in 2021, when the shooter was 17 and not legally able to donate to a candidate.
Wait, there’s an age requirement for donating?
It’s a legally gray area at best. Which is why ACT BLUE, the organization donated to, does not accept donations from people under 18.
I just jumped to this tab from the one about the project that let you type in morse code by opening and closing your laptop and thought you were talking about RedHat Linux for a second and was like “I mean a lot of people don’t like RedHat, but calling them Nazis because they wrote a weird script is a bit extreme”
Sure, at first, they’re just slamming their laptops shut to write morse code… but how long until it’s a cell door that they’re slamming? It’s a slippery slope.
I’m actually incredibly excited to hear how the Conspiracy peddlers spin this, we’ll study this level of crazy forever.
I have heard some internet talking head turn their “democracts say fascist, make democrats shoot trump” into “democrats say fascist, even make republicans shoot trump”.
Ah, a very selective recognition of stochastic terrorism. Except it doesn’t quite fit because calling Repubs fascist isn’t a lie.
It sure is easier to convince Repubs to shoot since they are already brainwashed. Too bad it is hard to direct them at people who deserve it instead of shoppers and nightclub attendees.
No one deserves it.
There are plenty of people who deserve it. Oil barons lying about climate so that they can continue to profit at the expense of millions of lives. Insurance barons lying about healthcare so that they can continue to profit at the expense of everyone’s wellbeing.
Pass better laws. Get better lawyers. Elect better politicians. You only think murder is an option because you suck at all of the sane ways to handle things.
That brings up a good point. Murdoch and everyone brainwashing people with propaganda to the point that they allow Repubs to obstruct all progress so they can profit also deserve it as much as the Repubs obstructing all progress.
This has got to be the dumbest thing I have seen all day. Murdering people should not be an option. Enjoy your visit with the feds.
“Their rhetoric is convincing even Republicans! They’re clearly evil!”
I was told “he’s from Pennsylvania, he’s registered as a republican, but he’s a democrat. You see, the democrats have been voting as republican so they can vote on the republican ticket for Trumps enemies”
I just can’t. I’m not looking forward to work this week.
“Oh, so there are even less Republicans than reported?”
Sigh… Heard about this from my partner last night. I had forgot until just a few minutes ago (special thanks to alcohol for making life bearable). Looks like I have to stay off the internet for the rest of the year.
That’s what I’m starting to think, too… Minus the alcohol bit.
I can only imagine how disenfranchised this young man had to feel to be able to do this
