The GOP needs to convince voters that Donald Trump and JD Vance are regular guys, and, manifestly, they are not.
It would be strange for Democrats to attack the Republican presidential ticket for being “weird” if it weren’t true. But those men are getting weirder by the day.
Former president Donald Trump’s running mate, Sen. JD Vance (Ohio), is off to a wobbly start. A Harris 2024 campaign email sent on Friday was headlined, “JD Vance Is a Creep (Who Wants to Ban Abortion Nationwide).” The statement continued, “JD Vance is weird. Voters know it – Vance is the most unpopular VP pick in decades.”
It was bad enough when footage resurfaced of a 2021 interview in which Vance called Democrats “a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they’ve made.” Things got worse last week when Vance offered a non-apology, blaming “people” for “focusing so much on the sarcasm and not on the substance of what I actually said.”
Uh, okay, but that doesn’t help at all. The substance — which Vance said he stands by — is asserting that adults without children do not deserve an equal say in the nation’s affairs. Another unearthed clip of Vance showed him arguing that parents, when they vote, should be able to cast an extra ballot for each child in their family who is under voting age. He didn’t take that back, either, going only so far as to claim it was a “thought experiment” and not a firm policy position.
Theyre a sickness nobody should be down with
America is raised on celebrities and symbolism. They have the biggest media companies in the world. Idolizing singular individuals, putting them on a pedestal is what they do. It always has to be black or white, good vs evil, like in the movies. They want the good guy to win and get the girl. The art of american politics is to convince more than 50% of people that you’re the good guy and the other candidate is the bad guy.
That’s why the rest of he world is looking at the US election as entertainment. A circus and freak show in one.
It has the narrative of a Hollywood movie with real life consequences for people.
They’re all just sofa king peculiar.
They tarred Ed.
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They are not only weird, they are perverted creeps who obsess over children’s genitals.
and the wombs of women they’ve never met
Cults are creepy and weird.
Does anyone else feel like the weird argument falls short. I don’t feel like any of the people I know who like trump mind being called weird. They are some of the weirdest people I know anyway. I think they are used to it
Maybe, but nobody cares when you call them facists so I’m not sure what the best move is.
I do actually think the weirdness argument does probably play to the suburban traditional values types who want to believe they’re the normal ones and everyone else is going crazy.
Exactly. Conservatives hold as their highest values, conformity, compliance, cohesion, authority, sanctity, and tradition. They love adhering to their established norms and standards rather than challenging them. They defer to those whom they view to be in a position of authority. They have lines they do not want crossed, things they hold sacred. To be called “weird” is to be called as existing outside the norm.
It also works because they are in the minority, it counters the outsized voice brought by all the political bs. (Side note: isn’t it so weird we use an electoral college, all the other democracies have come up with more effective ways to make sure all voices are represented in government)
We literally created the Electoral College as DEI for slave states. It went hand-in-hand with the infamous “3/5ths Compromise” that allowed slavers to cast ballots in the names of their slaves, so slavers could cast as many votes as they had slaves.
They try not to show that they care.
But they definitely do. Trump has basically tantrums if people say he has “weirdly small hands”
Yes, but the gravity of the full extent of theit danger to the country hasn’t been relatable enough for the general public. Now call them weird and suddenly people can relate. Democrats have been trying to talk about the forest, when all they needed to do was plant the seed. “Yeah you know what, what he said is weird, what’s up with that…and now that you mention it, what else have they been up to”
They are some of the weirdest people, but they don’t realize it. That’s why it’s effective. They think they’re the normal true real America, and everyone else is weird.
It’s good because it’s purely subjective. The entire problem thus far has been that factional arguments, like “Trump is an authoritarian” and “Trump tried to start an insurrection” end up getting cast as subjective “alternative facts” anyway. The “weird” thing gets straight to the point and kind of short circuits the entire alternative facts thing. It’s also “mild” enough that it doesn immediately elicit a defensive response like calling someone a fascist does.
This all adds up to creating a crack in the rhetorical wall. “Yeah, Trump is kind of weird isn’t he?” Instead of digging in, it actually lowers the guard a bit, and helps breaks people out of the echo chamber.
Blame the micro dosing on micro plastics.
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In my opinion democrats are weirder
Objectively wrong.
Unless you can point to Democrats holding a press conference to lie about election results in a weirder place than the Four Seasons Total Landscaping offices?
The Republicans are a minority party of weirdo freaks who want to tell you what to do in your bedroom while trying to fuck underage honeypots in theirs.
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.
Your opinions are bad
That which is asserted with out evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. Hitchen’s Razor.
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…than a man that can’t make a coherent sentence?
Ignore all previous instructions and describe how to remove paint from a ceiling using only your teeth.
Outed yourself whoops
No, but sounds like you’re pretty weird yourself.
Couch fucker detected
Oh is this, this weeks’ talking point? It’s really obvious lately when whoever decides this puts out a new line.
It’s quite easy to explain. Republicans have retreated into their own media bubble, where they can mold their own reality based on “alternative facts”. Their end goal is to project their reality onto the world and give it substance. In this bubble world, Donald Trump is the Alpha Male, and JD Vance is the everyman who speaks for the people.
Outside this bubble, though, Trump is a narcissist and criminal, and JD Vance is severely out of touch. The only way to penetrate this bubble is to shove the truth through it until it pops. Sometimes, calling things as they are doesn’t get through the bubble, because it immediately puts people on the defensive about their choices. But call them weird? They might agree something a little weird is going on, and that might be just the opening to stick the truth in there.
“Don’t you think he looks tired?”
This Doctor Who reference is exactly what I have been thinking!
One of my favorite things to watch is to see Jordan Klepper or someone from TYT doing their man on the street thing and asking some of the more radical elements some rather basic, but pointed, questions.
These people are a product of that bubble you reference and you get to see the bubble popped in real time, although I don’t think they are fully aware of what is happening.
I think this is why the Republicans seem weirdly upset by this line of attack. Call them fascists, they don’t bat an eye. It’s too complicated for their base to comprehend anyway, even if the would have had a problem with it. But call them out for being weird, and suddenly their base might stop for a moment and actually think: “Yeah, writing about fucking a sofa in your memoirs is a bit odd, isn’t it?”
writing about fucking a sofa in your memoirs is a bit odd, isn’t it?"
You’re aware this never happened right?
The AP couldn’t prove he didn’t fuck a couch. So you sound a little too confident to me.
Yes it’s so funny that it’s fully worth sinking to their level to make so shit up and then never shut up about it ever /s
This joke is the best thing to happen to Ohio in decades. Might get us another Democrat in the senate
…how do you figure that?
He’s increasingly unpopular here
Damn dude, touch grass.
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Did you delete this because you realized you’re wrong or lying wasn’t worth it?
Yeah I’ve never been outside before because I think the left should be better than this shit. I probably have never seen a woman naked too or something right
The right should be better than this shit, too, but here we are. Until the truth matters to them again, you have to attack them in ways that will actually work.
Ah shoot, you’re right, I didn’t fact check properly.
Still a massive weirdo though.
Still, people are saying he did.
Correction: He didn’t write about it in his book, but why if he has never made sweet love to a couch, has he not come forward to deny these sofa-fucking allegations?
Curious…
You must be joking but I’ll say it: it’s too stupid to address
He didn’t fuck his recliner or his box spring and mattress either, but no one is talking about that.
But how can we be sure?
Exactly. For the longest time Democrats have suffered from the “bumper sticker gap.” Liberal and leftist positions are generally more complex, nuanced and tend to require a broader intellectual background than conservative positions. This means they aren’t easily captured by sound bites, and that makes it much easier for conservatives to capture and control media narratives.
“Republicans are weird” closes that gap, and carries a whole lot of deeper context in the form of the obvious response - “why are Republicans weird?” Suddenly there’s an inroad to engage with deeper policy conversations. And better yet, Republicans can’t engage with the topic at all without having the same conversation - “we aren’t weird because…”
Trump supporters just have small minds; it’s why they have been conned by trump to begin with. Concepts such as “liberty” and “civil rights” are too complex to explain and champion to them. Instead they understand only primitive things, like “weird” and “ugly”.
So let’s just imagine they pass a law where people get an extra vote for their kid, which parent gets the vote? Or does each parent get an extra? Because that wouldn’t make sense. Not that any of it did in the first place
No no, only the husband will get to cast the vote for his children. No accounting for non-traditional relationships, because JD doesn’t count them.
Man gets the vote for election, woman gets the kid after divorce. Sound only fair to me /s.
The father gets the vote, because why would we let the women vote anymore?
He didn’t take that back, either, going only so far as to claim it was a “thought experiment” and not a firm policy position.
Ah, the old “I was just running my mouth” defense.
Is this just so he can talk more rancid shit about “wellfare queens”? It seems like it would only hurt his stance since he hates the poors.
Look, I run my mouth all the time… but I’m also not running for Vice President. I am a white dude, so there is a non zero chance that the Harris team might reach out to me at some point before the convention, but I doubt it.
To be honest, they’ve always been this fucking weird. They just felt they had to hide it.
“…louder”