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Stop posting US politics everywhere. This isn’t World News. This isn’t even news.
Unfortunately US Billionaires have a lot of societal impact outside of the US. They don’t care about the arbitrary borders that bound us plebians, they have enough money that the borders functionally don’t exist.
Don’t care. The real reason they post this here is US politics and not the effect it has on other countries. I’ll bet that OP is from the US.
Womp womp
I really like my Model 3 but I hate the association with Musk, I was considering buying it at the end of the lease but I’m having second thoughts. Yes, I know I’ve already lined his pockets in a small way!!
I haven’t experienced the poor build quality, in the 2.5 years I’ve had it I’ve not had any issues and only 1 recall for an o-ring replacement on a gas strut.
Tesla needs to be rescued from Musk by one of the established car manufacturers, my vote would be for Mercedes.
Doesn’t hurt that they are also shit cars made out of melted down plastic from burger king kids meal toys and used dental floss and are prone to bursting into flames after “self driving” into walls or freeway medians.
Hmmm, I smell a lawsuit.
I’m gonna need another decade or two before I get an EV.
I’m gonna wait for the $15,000 economy shitbox model. Whoever ends up making it.
Citroen Ami is around 7k €
Noooo people need EV’s that do 0-100 in 2 seconds that cost 80k
All I need it run is 65. I want to go weeks between recharges. I don’t care about speed.
Good.
/shocked
Really? It’s pa-ywalled, but based on just the title; really?
It’s not the poor reputation Teslas have at being cars? Recalls, performance, ongoing costs, longevity, manufacturing quality…etc. But, it’s X instead?
Why not both?
The cars are actually great, unfortunately
Are they though?
Nah. They’re pretty and quick, but they have the price tag of a brand new Jaguar and the build quality of a 1980s Yugo.
So their build quality has improved recently?
To some the future is more important than the present. For others the present is more important.
To each their own.
Except we can’t each have our own. Inflation rewards shorter time preferences, so we have a “this quarter” economy we can’t opt out of.
So how do we fix that problem? Stay the course, or try to do something now so that our children are better off?
I’m target demo for a Tesla. Upper middle class techie. My next car will be an EV and I actually like Teslas. I like a lot of things about them but I will absolutely not buy one while Elon is in charge of the company. Fuck that guy. He’s not getting any of my money.
Same. Upper middle class and work for a large hyperacaler.
Tesla was the only one excluded from my recent EV search. Loving the Polestar 2 so far.
Same demographic, but sadly I already bought a model Y cause I wanted a 7 seater with a 5 star crash safety rating…
Needless to say the car isn’t good enough to compromise on my morals moving forward and the next car will probably be that VW Buzz. That thing looks so fun.
Bought one too. I have a model 3 which I really enjoy and would probably have bought another Tesla next if it wasn’t for Elon going mad.
So sadly no more Tesla for me. Buzz is nice, as is the beemer i4.
Ditto. I have 3 requirements above the current cars though:
- Better range
- more physical controls, everything that isn’t media or GPs needs physical buttons
- Elon must not profit
Add “real steering wheel” to that cause that futuristic airliner yoke shit would absolutely kill me the first time I try to cross over to turn.
I won’t buy Tesla but to be fair, the yoke in the cybertruck is one of the few things that every reviewer says works great. There’s no crossover turn, the wheel maxes out well before then so you keep your grip as it is. Instead, the turn input is progressive depending on how much you turn the yoke and dynamic depending on how fast you’re going. They say in practice, it quickly feels very natural.
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Media also. It’s super valuable to change songs with no fiddling.
The physical control is a big one. I’m not using software capable of driving a vehicle that’s made and controlled by a Nazi.
I got a Cadillac lyric instead and I love it
Same here, some friends of mine really got into car hacking with Teslas in particular and I was looking forward to sharing more hobbies with them. But at this point, I’d be embarrassed as hell to tell anyone I intentionally bought a Tesla, even a used one. And besides, if I really want the “sleek futuristic electric car by the dedicated electric car company”, Rivian exists (unless their CEO is somehow worse than Elon 😬😩)
If he is worse than Elon, he at least has the decency to hide it.
Rivian needs a Y/3 competitor. It’s over 100k for a Rivian in Canada. A Y is 54k, a 3 is just under 50k to qualify for federal and provincial incentives.
Yeah, I said that without looking up the prices for a Rivian and remembered why I’m not actually considering getting one 😭. The world just still isn’t ready for an all electric car manufacturer that is both affordable and not run by a manchild smdh
Well lucky for us they have the R2/R3(X) in the pipeline. Can’t come soon enough though, 2026 for the R2 seems like a lifetime away.
BYD has its PHEV Shark truck starting at $54k. Its something like 500+ mile mixed range, with a 60 mile electric only range.
Not exactly the same, but still a lot of truck for much less. They will be making them in Mexico, so tariffs shouldn’t apply.
Same here, even with all the BS around Twitter and his political views… I WAS still considering a Tesla, but with the pro-Trump PAC and the deep fakes on Xitter it’s just another level of bullshit.
Hoping he gets forced out in the next year because I also don’t want to buy from a dealership, which doesn’t leave me a lot of options for an EV.
The tesla shareholders just approved a 55 billion dollar bonus that a court had previously struck down.
Hes not getting voted out. This is what they want.
Presumably it’s “… worth in stock”, and might even have vesting periods. He doesn’t get that much unless the stock price stays high
That’s good, because people really do conflate the drivers with Elon’s fans, and also with Trump. I’m one of them. Fuck Elon, and fuck every Tesla driver.
The real Tesla killer was inside the room all along.
Enough about this douche canoe, can he disappear from social sphere? I don’t want to hear about this guy rant every day for the next 50 years !
There is literally an avenue in which we can put him on a rocket and send him to Mars. I am all for it.
Which one?
You hit it right!
Yes.
No, because he’s rich and influencial and keeps saying and doing shit that gets him front page in the news. That’s the way the world works unfortunately.
I think we’d all love that. I genuinely wish the asshole would take a trip to see the titanic.
Hey Tesla board. This guy is the entire reason I don’t want anything to do with your company.
Also in America. Here in California I know several people that sold their Tesla because of lonE skuM and many more who wouldn’t buy because of him. I myself have told Tesla recruiters in two occasions that I’d never work for that piece of shit
Recruiters??!?!!?!
Why in the world would he possibly need to recruit people:
- To come live in abject fear of his every whim?
- To be expected to work 24 hours a day seven days a week?
- To not be able to have a family?
All the best talent will be lining up for some of that!!!
At this point having Tesla on your résumé means you couldn’t do better.
“yes, i would like to relocate and dedicate my life to a company that might fire the entire team just because one day the CEO snorted too much ketamine”
I’m one. When he moved Tesla engineers to work on Twitter and then went on an unhinged anti-Trans rant in the middle of an earnings call, I shopped around and traded in my model 3. I always assumed the major selling point of a Tesla was the software, but he keeps fucking with the people who make it.
I think a lot of it was the charging network. What happened with that again? Oh yeah. He fired that whole team.
I was in the market for an EV shortly after he took over twitter. I ruled Tesla out because I do not want to be seen to support that douche in any way.
I actually bought my Tesla about a year before he took over Twitter. The supercharger network has proven itself on a few long trips, which is the main reason I’m holding onto it for now.
I can pretty much guarantee that my next car will be an EV but definitely not a Tesla. Since virtually all EV manufacturers have announced support for J3400 in the next few years I figure there will be a handful of decent options for me to choose from in 5-10 years.
They’re certainly massively ahead of the competition with their charging network, I won’t argue with that. I’m fortunate enough that I can charge at home and that’s pretty much all I have ever done. I have not needed to do a cross-country road trip.
