Author J.K. Rowling has fallen silent on her usually busy X (formerly Twitter) feed, after Olympic gold medalist boxer Imane Khelif filed a legal complaint in France for alleged cyber harassment over statements regarding her gender.
On August 9, lawyers for Khelif filed a lawsuit with a special unit of the public prosecutor’s office in Paris, stemming from false statements that spread online about her gender after the Algerian boxer defeated Italy’s Angela Carini in her first fight of the 2024 Olympic Games. Carini pulled out 46 seconds into the bout and told reporters afterwards that she had “never felt a punch like this.”
Heaven forbid she lose money. Literally the only thing that could make her
stopbriefly pause harassing people on the internet.the only thing
I mean, there are other ways, but…
She has billions. No matter how much she loses she’ll still be obscenely rich.
Maybe they can sue for billions. Gawker got sued out of existence, I hope she gets some good US attorneys and files in a jurisdiction that has unlimited damages. Maybe we can all use the new “K” platform after she owns “X”.
Don’t think the UK has the potential for redicolously high damages that exists in some US states.
Peter Thiel is the reason they were sued out of existence.
Yep. Because they outed him. And he couldn’t sue them for that, so he waited around until he found something he could use to sink his teeth into them.
People were cheering when Gawker lost and got shut down because Gawker sucked. Not me. I saw a billionaire using the justice system successfully for a personal vendetta and was horrified.
Is anyone suing Peter Thiel out of existence?
The Wall Street Journal still has an article online that says:
The Algerian boxer is biologically male but allowed to compete in the female category
Fuck Jeff BezosEDIT: Oh dang this isn’t WaPo. Fuck him anyway though.
WSJ is a Murdoch propaganda outlet
Wait how is this blatant lie allowed to remain published online? I thought the WSJ had at least some credibility?
No modern US media has any credibility anymore. They are owned by a handful of wealthy people who don’t give a shit about truth or journalistic integrity.
how is this blatant lie allowed to remain published online?
A lot of people still think there’s consequence or rules or regulations on what publications can say or do. We abolished those laws a long time ago.
Sue’em, hard.
Bezos has nothing to do with the Wall Street Journal
my bad
Upvote because you recognized you were incorrect & you weren’t a rowling about it!
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It’s not like I have to take back the “Fuck Jeff Bezos” part. Just not specifically about this.
Never, ever take back a “fuck Bezos” 💪👍🙏
Unless you meant it literally; I would never encourage sexual intercourse with that… being.
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Hold up though, here me out. Well, lets just say things could get interesting with a splintered 4x4 piece of lumber. Ya know, for science.
Never poo poo a poo poo.
The author, colin wright, touts himself as a fellow for SEGM “The Society For Evidence-Based Gender Medicine;” which is a non-profit organization that is known for its opposition to gender-affirming care for transgender youth and for engaging in political lobbying.
He’s a POS who gets paid to write smear pieces endangering the lives of trans people, by people with even worse ideals than his own.
You spelled Rupert Murdoch wrong.
Its always X (formerly twitter) and i bet elon hates that.
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I see your point. I just think his ego is too big to let it go.
The irony of Rowling getting sued for calling a biological woman trans
It’s amazing how fast lawsuits can shut up anybody who still has at least two brain cells left. Doesn’t work on Trump or Elon for some reason. I’m sure it’s a coincidence.
Different laws. In the UK it’s generally easier to sue for defaming someone like Rowling is accused of doing.
This is under French law, though, and it’s cyberbullying law instead of defamation.
Dementia DonOLD the weird racist rapist with 34 felonies only has two brain cells. AND THEY’RE FIGHTING FOR THIRD PLACE.
Good, sue her ass off Imane. Take her for every penny. Rowling is an asshole.
I managed to never see a photo of rowling until now, and she totally looks like my friend’s dad in poorly done drag and probably also on hard drugs.
Use of the internet to in any way facilitate the outsourcing of on-site labour overseas is capitalism’s ultimate spatial fix, pass it on.
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“I don’t agree with the nazis, but they are allowed to have opinions that we don’t agree with, I don’t understand the hate”
Yeah, no problem with that logic. Wanting a minority to die/not exist is just an opinion not worth disdain, that’s all, right?
Is that the bar for you? Anything less evil than directly and personally stabbing a baby is ok?
She’s not out there stabbing babies
Rowling is using her considerable clout to drum up hatred of trans people. She might not be wielding the bat, but she helps embolden those who do. It’s essentially stochastic terrorism. To my knowledge, Card has not gone nearly as far off the deep end in this respect.
She’s gone hard into terf land and is spreading hate and disinfo about trans people
The bigotry is on the same level, but I think JK Rowling is actively militant on a far different level compared to Orson Scott Card. Just looking at their twitter for example, OSC tweets maybe once a month and 9/10 times it’s about a book signing or other such promotion. JK Rowling’s feed is a constant flow of hatred on trans people. She tries very hard to make sure you are reminded of her bigotry every single time you hear anything about her.
The reach is different too. OSC has some 16k followers. Rowling has 15 million. It’s natural for her to attract a much higher degree of disdain.
This is it right here. I am a trans person and I actually like both the enderverse and harry potter and I’m not a fan of either author. But I can say I like the enderverse without any shame or self loathing because Card doesn’t appear to speak about his shitty views unless directly asked.
Now with Joanne on the other hand… Well, fuck her and her IP and everything else she might ever do. She is a billionaire and like Musk just can’t be happy with that and shut the fuck up. I get it you foul bitch, you hate me and that I exist, now go buy a fucking yacht and let me struggle to pay rent, buy food, and simply live in peace. All I have ever done to that self righteous cunt is buy her books and yet she feels the need to denigrate me and my existence and espouse hate directed toward me every chance she gets. Just stfu Joanne, you’ve won the game you never have to worry about having your basic needs met ever again. You’ve won. Now go the fuck away.
Basically I can put blinders on and still enjoy the enderverse and shadows, but I can’t do that with Joanne. Harry Potter will never hold the same place in my heart as it once did. I cannot read it anymore without feeling gross and disgusted with myself for enjoying anything this foul human has produced.
To be fair, Ender Wiggin calls his black friend the N word and jokes about owning him as a slave one time. Ender’s Game still somehow manages to be less racist than Harry Potter, but it’s a close race.
Totally agree with you that I’m less ashamed to like the Ender books tho. Every time I try to understand Leibniz I just remember reading the Ender sequels.
“Could any picture sum up our new men’s rights movement better?” the writer asked. “The smirk of a male who’s knows he’s protected by a misogynist sporting establishment enjoying the distress of a woman he’s just punched in the head, and whose life’s ambition he’s just shattered.”
This fucking smug cunt.
Some people need a punch to the head to stop being so smug
throw Rowling into the ring
Damn is that actually what she said?
According to the article, yeah.
she thought she was Hermione. turns out she was just Malfoy.
She’s not Malfoy, she’s Umbridge.
She doesn’t have quite enough of a backpfeifengesicht to be Umbridge. She’s Umbridge from Wish
TemUmbridge
I’m honestly confused how she could write a story where Harry Potter triumphs over he who must not be named, when he who must not be named was her hero.
It must have been really tough for her.
It’s less that and more the system of prejudice itself is her hero, because she never truly challenges it, and the final state of peace at the end of the books does not require fixing its problems. Voldemort was a bad apple, nothing more (according to her I’d imagine)
Yeah the way she kind of bullies Hermione with the whole ‘SPEW’ thing was so off. First, Hermione had style and was a genius. I think she would know that ‘SPEW’ is a bad acronym.
Also, making everyone turn away from her and no one supporting her - she didn’t need to really make it like that at all. Why couldnt the org have a cute name and Hermione and like Lavender Brown etc all get together to try to coordinate better working conditions for the elves. This then would later help with the plot involving the DA. It’s literally a fantasy and Harry gets magical hero results all the time. It’s just such a weird part of the books and negative when it really didn’t serve any purpose to be negative. Except to be shitty to lady activists.
Yeah the HP books are misogynist as fuck. When I was a little one and I found out they were written by a woman, I was in disbelief. Why would a woman write something so mean to women in general?
Well, the author of HP goes by Robert these days so I guess I had the right idea.
goes by Robert
I’m sorry, I think you just short circuited my brain. JK Rowling, who has so publicly and venomously been anti-trans… has spent the last few years pretending to be a man??? What in the hypocrisy is wrong with her!!!
And now that you mention it, I’d read a long time ago, before she became public with her TERF-ness, that she went by “J K” on the HP books instead of Joanne because she or the publishers didn’t want to discourage boys from picking up a book written by a woman. And now that I’m typing this, I realize the fact that she wrote her books from a boy’s perspective, too. So in all these examples, she’s inhabiting a male persona.
My brain… can list these facts, but cannot compute them together.
Robert Galbraith pretends to be a different gender in order to gain a political advantage and make money. Having absolutely no sense of empathy whatsoever, he assumes everyone else is like him. He assumes trans people are all pretending to be a different gender in order to gain a political advantage and make money. And the only political advantage you can get out of trans femininity (as opposed to trans masculinity) is the appropriation of feminist resources.
(I mean, you can also get great skin, beautiful flowing locks, and resistance to covid from trans femininity, but I don’t think Robert knows about those)
“resistance to covid”? Did I miss something?
yep.
She’s a Stan Shunpike- radicalized offscreen, leaving everyone else confused
Musk is Malfoy. Rowling is Crabbe.
Rowling is Umbridge.
Okay, now explain it like Star Trek.
Thinks she’s Sisko, but she’s Kai Winn.
She thinks she’s Future Guy, but she’s really Silik.
Daniels?
She thought she was Dax, but she’s really Damar. Elon Musk is Gul Dukat.
He’s not smart enough. More like the Grand Negus.
I can see this one.
Zek is a lot smarter than Dukat.
Grand Nagus Brunt.
Spare me these twisted visions, cruel spectre!
She thought she was Kirk, turns out she was just that dumb girl that helped Khan.
I’d say she was young and naïve and attracted to a guy who was literally superhuman. She wasn’t stupid though, she was the ship’s historian. She basically fell in love with what she was supposed to study. It happens in the real world too… doctors falling in love with patients at the like.
Okay then you do one!
No need for lawsuits. Put her in the ring. Let her defend her convictions with her face and fists.
Like the Hungarian.
I don’t get it. They took a test that revealed they have XY chromosomes in 2023.
I haven’t seen any reporting confirming that she’s got XY chromosomes. But if you have an article, please correct me if I’m wrong. What I’ve been able to find is this:
Banned governing body that’s fueling outcry on Olympic boxers has Russian ties and troubled history
Summary-
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The disqualification was done in a tournament run by an organization banned by the Olympics.
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She participated in tournaments run by this organization with no issues for the last several years.
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The organization hasn’t said why she was disqualified.
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The man spouting the ‘trans woman’ claims is the leader of the organization. He’s a friend of Putin and described as a drug trafficker.
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Her disqualification happened after she beat the previously undefeated Russian boxer Amineva 3 days post fight.
There’s more in the article, but these are the quick bullet points I came up with.
Troubled Russian ties and corruption in the Olympics.
- The organization hasn’t said why she was disqualified.
Lie. They’ve said their tests found xy chromosomes.
But they haven’t said what test they performed to determine this, which would be the norm so the results can be verified.
What is your point? If it’s such the norm why hasn’t she released the results herself?
Why does she have to? Why would she have a copy of a test allegedly done by a 3rd party that, based on news reports, was just using it as an excuse to eliminate her for beating a Russian opponent?
Do you know she doesn’t have the test results? When I get medical tests done I usually do receive the test results.
There are news reports saying she’s a man if you care so much about news reports.
It’s funny how it works both ways. She doesn’t have to release the results. And they don’t have to release them so you can verify it either. Playing your own stupid game. Why do they have to release the results?
You seem to be misunderstanding, intentionally I would guess. They claimed they did a test to “confirm” she was not a woman, I’m saying that’s a steaming hot load of bullshit and they were just looking for an excuse and they have no results to release.
Please cite your sources saying there are news reports that she’s a man.
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Dude don’t stress about thiss… Lemmy is pretty much center-to-far-left , i.e. don’t bother bringing up facts to the argument 😆
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Please do bring facts. Then, cite your sources. You have sources, right?
… right?
Narrator: “they do not”
Apparently that is not true. There was a report of test taken and result was xy, but the report was never shown to the public and the lab that took the test has been banned.
Seems they are attacking the wrong group then.
Yes, I believe Rowling was quite misinformed in this aspect.
Hey look it’s a mouth breathing transphobic science misunderstander
Don’t shame, but educate. There’s no need to be rude over this.
Sure there is. That mouth breather is refusing to use a woman’s feminine pronouns over an unsubstantiated rumour about a minor medical abnormality. They’re being ten times as rude as I am.
refusing to use a woman’s feminine pronouns
Where?
Here: https://lemmy.world/comment/11819572
This person uses “they” instead of Khelif’s she/her pronouns.
I’m sorry but no. Using gender-neutral language does not describe gender; using ‘they’ isn’t to misgender, it just leaves the gender unspecified.
You can correctly use ‘they’ for anyone. If they’d said ‘he’, now that would’ve been different…
(Edit: typo)
Yeah, it’s so minor. I think that commenter is only looking for a reason to be upset on behalf of someone else and use that as an excuse to blow up.
I didn’t say they were misgendering her, I said they refused to use her preferred pronouns. Surely you can agree with the factual accuracy of that statement.
I’m about to enjoy blocking you.
The bullshit about XY chromosomes is pretty stupid, which is why the other replier provided an article and a few key points in refutation.
The OP’s comment didn’t read to me as particularly incendiary, but thanks for labelling them as transphobic and mouth breathing with no precedent! Really appreciate good contributions to discourse like yours.
EDIT: not sure what the downvotes are for. XY chromosomes are not exactly valid for determining sex, much less gender. Women might have Y chromosomes, or even three copies of X. Gender has nothing to do with this at all, in fact.
Using XY as an argument is therefore bullshit.
Even if it’s bullshit, there’s no need to call someone a mouth breather unprovoked. The other thread seems to be a shitshow anyway, so I’m glad the replier is being called out.
You’re welcome, glad to be of service.
That doesn’t make her not female, or trans. From the Snopes article about this:
There are genetic conditions, termed differences of sexual development, in which biological females are born with XY chromosomes but possess female anatomy, or that affect how a biological female regulates and reacts to testosterone, causing levels typically associated with males. Though there is no independent confirmation that Khelif has these conditions, people born this way would legally be considered female or intersex.
Debates over these issues in the context of women’s sports have nothing to do with a purported “woke” or “trans agenda,” because such instances involve women who were born as women, identify as women and have not undergone any sex reassignment surgery or procedure to change this fact. That is what IOC spokesperson Mark Adams meant when he clarified to the press “this is not a transgender issue.”
Gender-reassignment procedures require significant financial and medical resources. The notion that a woman from a rural western Algerian village who sold scrap metal to support her boxing career would have had the ability to undergo such a procedure in a deeply conservative Muslim country that prohibits the practice is extremely unlikely, at best.
According to anti-trans people like her, there are only men and women. At birth Khleif was medically determined to be a woman and always lived as a woman. End of story, particularly for people like JKR who think this is a simple issue.
They should just let them sort it out in the ring.
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By “this woman,” do you mean Rowling? Are you sure she’s a woman? Has she taken a gender test?
You mean Robert Galbraith? JK is a little gender fluid anyway.
I get where you’re coming from. But she has popped a crotch goblin out in the past, which is a pretty good indication of womanhood. (Side note: I’m not saying if a woman can’t or won’t have kids they aren’t a woman, because they clearly still are. But if a woman does give birth to a child it’s usually a strong sign of that gender.)
ETA: If this prospective lawsuit can shut Rowling up long-term that would be fantastic. Like many others, I’m tired of her spewing hateful shit out.
How do you know she did? Were you at the birth? Have you seen video? How do you know the child wasn’t adopted?
I know men who’ve given birth, and women who haven’t, so I’m not sure it means what you think it means…
Hundreds of people hung people of color from trees without a fair trial. They are still guilty whether or not others did so.
You gender warriors are nuts,
I don’t make having opinions on gender and pronouns a cornerstone of my income like JK does. The loudness of the pro-trans community is entirely a response to the opposition trans people face. Want trans people to “get over it”? Get over it yourself first.
I wonder if people like you also wanted the Irish to “get over it” back in the day. Don’t hear too much about Irish Pride these days, do you? Did they quite down when hating the Irish left the vogue or did their pride just get normalized? Probably a bit of both, but do you get wound up around St. Patrick Day? Well, you’re from a uk instance, so maybe you do.
It’s impossible to prove that someone ‘never failed a gender test’ you can only prove that someone passed or failed a specific test. Maybe if you understood logic and critical thinking a bit better it might help you in your life. I’d recommend learning.
Wheres the evidence she ‘never failed a gender test’ that was the fact that made everyone upset.
Yeah, where’s the proof of this negative?!? /s
Now we just need your proof that your hero JD Vance never fucked a couch.
I totally believe Algeria sent a transwomen to the olympics…
For the record: Being trans is highly illegal in Algeria
