"FEMA also been accused by former president Donald Trump, the Republican nominee, and other Republicans of not being able to respond well enough to Helene because it had diverted disaster relief funds to help migrants.

That is not true, because while FEMA administers the Shelter and Services Program, funding for it comes from a separate pot of money funded by Congress for U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

Other false claims that have circulated include that people taking federal relief money could see their land seized or that that $750 is the most they will ever get to rebuild. FEMA has pushed back against the false claims and conspiracy theories, setting up a page on its website to combat misinformation and rumors."

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    And you really think one more democrat president will fix this?

    The US is collapsing as we speak, there is no turning back now.

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      If that president was Bernie Big Balls Sanders, then Yes.

      But 8 years of Kamala with a supermajority in the house and senate would be a great start

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        I don’t think (ether party - for what it’s worth) has the power to like just raise corporate taxes, pump up regulations (funding, legislative power), pass laws affecting financial markets for the worse of the current shareholders, shut down military actions keeping colonialism going, etc.

        The parties were restricted to “inconsequential” daily stuff that only affect the whole lives of regular plebs (so lqbtq freedoms/equality, reproductive rights, etc - none of the affects the ruling class whichever way it goes as they are above it).

        8 years of Kamala supermajority can have effects ofc, but a system (within a system) trying to survive for it’s own sake (instead of “the people”) will play along nicely with all the factors.

        Also, politically loud people getting shot is the same as ‘fell out of the window’ in Russia. But in recent decades in USA stuff that eg MLK tried to warn (economical inequality), doesn’t even get serious political attention anymore - bcs artificially manufactured bullshit affects real lives more immediately.

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      So vote trump? Stein? Move away? Build a bunker? What other options do you suggest?

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    Alright bros, have fun with no hurricane support!

    Alternatively anyone caught threatening a FEMA agent should be captured and released into the hurricane by plane with no parachute

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      I think a Presidential Order should be issued that someone making threats against those working for FEMA is considered terrorism. And then light up a few of these asshats if they fuck around - let them find out.

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      If I may make a suggestion - with a parachute.

      With no parachute they just go down for a couple minutes. With a parachute they go up and down for hours, in the middle of a hurricane.

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        It’s more likely that amount of wind just rolls the parachute up and slams them into the ocean at speed.

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            Thunderstorms are generally between 39 and 57, with possibilities up to around 74 in gusting. They can also produce “Down Bursts” that get to 100, but are not generally present. This does not include Tornadoes or Derechos. Hurricanes range from 74 to 153+.

            So the answer is it really depends on what kind of thunder storm he was in. Chances are on the east coast he was getting no more then 57, the big wind events are generally in the Midwest and Southwest. I’d track down a report of what the wind was, but the office that runs that website is in Asheville, NC and their website is still down.

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      Threatening a federal official is already a federal crime.

      But it’s Republicans doing it so the FBI doesn’t give a shit. Hell there are probably FBI members in the militia (zero doubt local law enforcement is involved).

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    This is the world of a maga mental invalid. A world of endless fear and abuse. Tyranny.

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    How the fuck are people who are this STUPID allowed to own Firearms? It’s a mircale that these cavemen even know how to operate firearms. What’s next? Shooting at the Hurricane? Attacking Firefighters?

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    It’s “The Running Man” plot! They are just going to AI videos to fit a narrative, and start sending people to jail, or worse…

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    This is stochastic terrorism and he will keep doing it because he hasn’t suffered any fucking consequences.

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      on one hand I hate stupid conspiracy theorists, on the other hand terrorism shouldn’t be illegal when it only effects the feds.

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      Seriously it should be simple. Biden should tell Trump to denounce these people completely, call them the disgrace they are, ask for them to surrender to be imprisoned and if Trump doesn’t comply, he needs to be labeled officially as an enemy of the state.

      That would also make it so all that give him aid are guilty of treason.

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    It sucks when 20% of people in a country become terrorists and another 20% turn into their accomplices, including no small portion of the people whose job it is to stop the terrorists.

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    Was it not every single Florida Republican who voted no on FEMA relief? 😅

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    Honestly, I really wish this administration would just deploy National Guard. If some dipshit Meal Team 6 types show up and start causing shit for FEMA, dial that up to 11 immediately.

    Start using antiterrorism measures against these assholes. Because they ARE terrorists.

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      Exactly. “We will provide our territory with emergency relief for all who want it. You’re welcome to decide not to accept it for yourself, but not for your neighbors”.

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      I mean, not that many countries just allow various militias to form & roam around.

      It’s different if the militia is born out of a political party-ish movement with significant support within the country. In that case any action has political consequences & as such up to politically political politicians.

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    I pointed out to someone that the SSP money for helping migrants was separate from the billions in the FEMA budget.

    The response I got?

    'I don’t give a shit. We shouldn’t be spending any FEMA money on illegals and should be helping Americans instead."

    They don’t listen. They don’t care. They don’t want to know.

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    The red state governors are just mad because they can’t divert the FEMA funds directly into their own causes. (and pockets).

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    This motherfucker is single handedly standing up an insurgency in his own country. This is exactly the kind of shit we used to see when we were in Iraq and Afghanistan. And then we had to send armed escorts around with the polio vaccinators, malaria mitigation, and rebuilding teams that were literally looking for locals they could pay to do the job. Which of course feeds right back into the FUD about those guys actually being nefarious in some ridiculous way. This generally lasts until the insurgents get control of an area, do ridiculous shit, and get put on blast for it; or we manage to help enough people that they tell the insurgents to kick rocks.

    I’d say welcome to 2025 but we have (check notes) two and a half months left of 2024 first.