““I think it’s super hard for a gamer,” Ullmann tells Rock Paper Shotgun. “I’m a gamer myself, and therefore I know what I’m talking about. I think it’s super hard to see, as a gamer, what is the immediate benefit for me that a certain game developer, game publisher, is using our anti-piracy services.” This gap, coupled with the fact that Denuvo “simply works” and “pirates cannot play games” which use it, as Ullmann puts it, are two main contributors to its negative reputation, he argues.”

Let’s not forget about being always-online or not being able to test different wine/Proton setups for fear of activating the DRM. Or even trying simply to run the game in some situations…

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    Its simple.

    Pirates don’t ruin games for other players.

    Pirates ruin games for the dealers.

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      Not necessarily even that. Piracy can benefit the developer by increasing popularity. Piracy made Bill Gates a billionaire despite his fighting tooth and nails against it.

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      And also for longevity of the games, I heard that one company (I don’t remember the name) selling pirated version of their games for modern system because they can’t get rid of DRM themselves

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      Too bad you’re not a gamer like Denuvonian Man, you’d know a thing or two about games.

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    Good luck trying to PR like this garbage is useful to the end user, you gonna need it.

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      I’m a gamer too and I agree. Now there’s two gamers saying that denuvo is crap vs one gamer. We got majority.

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    only good thing about their drm its so expensive very few companies will pay a subscription to keep it active forever

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    We should totally just go along with DRM, or they might decide to break other stuff. This is totally an innocent request, and far from attempted extortion.

    /s

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    Well then just stop and we stop. Fuxk them, denuvogames won’t be bought, glad steam is marking those games.

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          Thankfully it doesn’t happen very often and if a game is out for a long while it’s a safe bet it very likely won’t be added. If they do though that curator still helps because it makes it more visible on the store page, so you can give a negative review, block its updates, and downgrade to a previous version without it (whether that’s officially through Steam’s downgrade tools, or downloading it elsewhere depends on the circumstance). Or remove it from your account if you don’t care about it anymore.

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            Didn’t steam allow refunds regardless of hours played for some game that did this recently?

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              Not sure, I guess it would depend on the game, and whether or not it was badly affected enough by the update for Valve to consider it broken by the update.

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          Adding denuvo later wouldn’t do any good, if a game launches without it it’s going to get cracked instantly

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            Exactly, adding it later just means people can use the earlier versions. Some wiseasses may argue about missing content but that’s a stupid argument since cracked games don’t get updates to them either unless new cracks are published, and that doesn’t happen as often as actual updates are published.

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        This list is awesome. Unsurprisingly nearly every game has bad reviews.

        They’re not even for denuvo itself.

        I wonder. Do the shitty shovelware games gravitate towards Denuvo? Or do they install denuvo as part of their enshittification process

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          I figure they must think they can make their games sell better if they include it because it still hasn’t occurred to these dumbasses that if your games suck people just won’t buy them. Maybe its cope, after all you can’t tap into a market of people who don’t want your game (well I mean you can, but most companies don’t consider scamming people), so they assume all the people not buying it are pirating it.