OK, its just a deer, but the future is clear. These things are going to start kill people left and right.

How many kids is Elon going to kill before we shut him down? Whats the number of children we’re going to allow Elon to murder every year?

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    If you want to motivate people to action, frame it in terms of the property damage they’ll experience to their car when it hits a child. We’ve already seen how far the American public is willing to go for children’s lives, and it’s not very far at all.

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    I roll my eyes at the dishonest bad faith takes people have in the comments about how people do the same thing behind the wheel. Like that’s going to make autopiloting self-driving cars an exception. Least a person can react, can slow down or do anything that an unthinking, going-by-the-pixels computer can’t do at a whim.

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      How come human drivers have more fatalities and injuries per mile driven?

      Musk can die in a fire, but self driving car tech seems to be vastly safer than human drivers when you do apples to apples comparisons. It’s like wearing a seatbelt, you certainly don’t need to have one to go from point A to point B, but you’re definitely safer with it - even if you are giving up a little control. Like a seatbelt, you can always take it off.

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        I honestly think it shouldn’t be called “self driving” or “autopilot” but should work more like the safety systems in Airbusses by simply not allowing the human to make a decision that would create a dangerous situation.

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    You just need to buy the North America Animal Recognition AI subscription and this wouldn’t be an issue plebs, it will stop for 28 out of 139 mammals!

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    Just a small clarification… Teslas only kill forward or backwards. Hardly ever has a car killed left or right 😂.

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    1. Vehicle needed lidar
    2. Vehicle should have a collision detection indicator for anomalous collisions and random mechanical problems
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    Why does this read like an ad for cybertrucks for people who would want to run over deer

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    For the 1000th time Tesla: don’t call it “autopilot” when it’s nothing more than a cruise control that needs constant attention.

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      Real Autopilot also needs constant attention, the term comes from aviation and it’s not fully autonomous. It maintains heading, altitude, and can do minor course correction.

      It’s the “full self driving” wording they use that needs shit on.

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        Real Autopilot also needs constant attention

        Newer “real” autopilot systems absolutely do not need constant attention. Many of them can do full landing sequences now. The definition would match what people commonly use it for, not what it was “originally”. Most people believe autopilot to be that it pilots itself automatically. There is 0 intuition about what a pilot actually does in the cockpit for most normal people. And technology bares out that thought process as autopilot in it’s modern form can actually do 99% of flying, where take-off and landing isn’t exempted anymore.

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          Looked it up some, In ideal conditions, and with supervision. The pilot can’t just take a nap and forget about it. Which, two Tesla’s credit when you activate the feature for the first time it does make you read a large unskippable warning that you need to be paying attention at all times. I still don’t mind the name autopilot I just hate that they are marketing it as fully autonomous self-driving because that’s the part that implies you don’t need to be watching over it (to me)

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      It is autopilot (a poor one but still one) that legally calls itself cruise control so Tesla wouldn’t have to take responsibility when it inevitably breaks the law.

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    Is there video that actually shows it “keeps going”? The way that video loops I know I can’t tell what happens immediately after.

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      The way that video loops I know I can’t tell what happens immediately after.

      SRSLY?

      Have you ever been in a car, going fast?

      You can see in the video that the car does NOT brake hard before the crash. Not even in the very last second.

      What did YOU think what happens in the next second?

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        What I think doesn’t matter. I’d like to actually see the whole video though. Then I nor you would need to hypothesize about it either.

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        Inb4 it actually stopped with hazards like I’ve seen in other videos. Fuck elon and fuck teslas marketing of self driving but I’ve seen people reach far for karma hate posts on tesla sooooooo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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          The poster, who pays Tesla CEO Elon Musk for a subscription to the increasingly far-right social media site, claimed that the FSD software “works awesome” and that a deer in the road is an “edge case.” One might argue that edge cases are actually very important parts of any claimed autonomy suite, given how drivers check out when they feel the car is doing the work, but this owner remains “insanely grateful” to Tesla regardless.

          Yeah nah. This person is the absolute opposite of a Tesla or Musk hater. They’ve had this experience and are expressing fucking gratitude to Tesla. Some people really are crazy.

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    As much as I hate Elon, self-driving cars are the future and will be way safer than some idiot behind the wheel

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      Yeah, but Elon’s self-driving cars aren’t self-driving, nor are they necessarily as safe a good driver.

      There are people out there who shouldn’t be able to drive, and in sane countries many of them don’t manage to get their licenses. But in the US for an example, apparently you can’t get anywhere without a car, so until the public transit situation is solved, drivers licenses need to be given out like candy :/ Exception being some cities with awesome public transit. The only one I’ve been to is NYC, where most people don’t really need to drive. I’d say the transit there is better than in my country.

      And the worst part is that even once real SDCs exist and can be bought, not everyone can afford them. Or maybe they’ll be more like Uber or Bolt in that you hail one from an app and it picks you up - but then people in rural areas are still fucked without being able to drive themselves.

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      “As much as I hate elon…”

      “I hate elon as much as the next guy, but…”

      “Look, I’m no elon fan, but…”

      I’m sure you all know, but to be clear, the above are the beginnings of sentences from people who don’t hate elon. They are sentences from people who like elon, but think you will hate them, or not consider their opinions, if they say out loud that they do, in fact, like elon.

      On a separate but related note, this is elon speaking at a hate-filled rally featuring a series of bigoted speakers, including himself. The rally very intentionally cosplayed an American Nazi rally that famously occurred at Madison Square garden in the 1930s. To emphasize how on the nose this all was, elon wore a specially made hat - a hat that very deliberately used an especially prominent font from the Nazi era. They are literally SCREAMING it in your face and tattooing it on their foreheads

      elon has done nothing good or admirable with his life and elon will will not do anything good or admirable with his life. You can’t compartmentalize your opinion on this, he sucks, on the whole.

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        A self-driving vehicle is not exclusive to Elon.

        I prefer electric cars over gas ones, and think that at some point computer controlled transportation will be more reliable than the average human driver. These aren’t endorsements of any person or company.

        Why are you wrapping this up so much with the one dude?

        Its like saying that you can’t endorse online shopping unless you also like Bezos.

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      Deer often travel in herds so where there is one there are often more. In rural area you can go miles without seeing one, and then see 10 in a few hundred feet. There are deer in those miles you didn’t see them as well, but they happened to not be near the road then.