Summary
Donald Trump’s decisive victory in the 2024 election leaves no room for ambiguity or an “asterisk” in his legitimacy, as he won both the popular vote and the Electoral College.
This outcome represents a clear mandate from American voters, who knowingly chose Trump’s policies and approach.
The anticipated results include pardons for January 6 participants, attacks on the press, and an administration filled with controversial figures.
By voting for Trump, Americans prioritized divisive rhetoric over democratic values, accepting the resulting turmoil.
Yep. I would say, let them wallow and burn in what they voted for. The problem is that the rest of us will be suffering along with them. Most of the world’s incumbents have been voted out of office and the countries’ voters have shifted right. I think the flood of immigrants to the U.S., England, Italy, and Germany is one of the main reasons that has caused the shift in voters, along with the economies. Although U.S. has the best economy in the world currently & voters have no memories. Trump was the one that killed the immigration bill so he could campaign on the issue. Fuck, he even to every one to blame him. AND, the Biden administration has pulled off a soft landing on inflation. Which is something 99.9% of economist said couldn’t be done. I’ve been hearing people voted for Trump because the price of eggs was too high. SERIOUSLY! WTF! No one remembers that the avian flu wiped out most of the farms??? One bird gets sick, they had to destroy the whole stock in that particular coop. They bitch about egg prices while the drive around in their V-8 trucks or suburbans. Also, under Biden, American has been out producing oil/gas than any other country. So, yea, the dumb fucks got EXACTLY what they wanted. Wait until those tariffs kick in and see if they bitch.
I have a friend. His mother is an undocumented immigrant. He admitted today that he voted for Trump due to concerns about inflation.
I just don’t even know what to say anymore: he’s college educated, but he still thinks Trump wasn’t talking about his mom.
Also, even if it was for “inflation”, just what policy do these people think donnie has that will “fix” inflation?
Yeah, I’m no expert but won’t Trumps tariffs on everything under the sun be much much worse than the inflation?? Manufacturing won’t come back to the USA, it’ll just shuffle around any of dozens of countries that will still be cheaper to operate out of. Also, retalitory tariffs are a thing which will harm what manufacturing IS in the USA. Also, Trump promised his rich buddies 3 trillion dollars in tax breaks. He’s going to slash health budgets (and more besides) to fund it. What are people thinking!? They’re going to fund the ultra rich from their own pockets AND pay massively more for goods while damaging local industry?! I mean there’s a million other things to worry about including mass-deportation but cost of living is about to increase BIGLY!?
I’m pretty convincing he’s being encouraged to outright collapse the us by Putin
The thing about mental illness is it’s not logical, and will never make sense. Cults, religion, and political ideology all indoctrinate — spread a mental illness — in the exact same way; they all attack the same psychological vulnerabilities.
If someone knows the sky isn’t red, but chooses to believe it anyway, there’s not a whole lot that can be done.
He deserves to have her deported, and she deserves not to be punished for him being a dipshit.
Fuck him. Also, that poor woman.
They are also gonna grab him. Stephen Miller doesn’t fucking care if you are legal or not. Your friend is about to find out after he fucked around
“America is for Americans!”
Trump’s stated plan is to deport 20 million people. There are only around 11 million undocumented immigrants. Both the dude mentioned in the comment above and his mom are definitely on the list. It’s staggering that he didn’t take that seriously.
I wouldn’t mind being deported to Ireland.
Be a shame to wind up in the land of whiskey.
Trump wanted to deport Haitans to Mexico. You’re not getting a free ride to Ireland. Hope you like tequila.
Mexico is a beautiful country with beautiful people and i would love to go back.
Though it wouldn’t be for a visit this time. lol
Right? How many generations we going back? Send me to Germany please
My only solace is that he’ll take part in the insane suffering that’s coming.
I’m glad your man will get what’s coming to him.
You too.
With attitudes like this, you guys really do deserve Trump.
That also seems to be an issue that keeps happening. Single issue voters. People get so locked in to one issue and will just straight up toss salad of the person that says they are going to make their issue their #1 priority.
Only problem is that #1 priority is on the same scale as 20+ other #1 priorities and the official is going to take on those issues that will benefit themselves the most.
we’ve built the world we think we deserve.
They do NOT think they deserve what they’re about to get
We’re going to get it, and we’re going to deserve it
I hate this take so much. I have been a good person all of my life, went out of my way to think of others and their feelings, never been in trouble, always followed the rules, worked hard to get to where I am at, and you’re telling me that I deserve this bullshit? Makes it all feel so worthless to have dedicated my time and energy for something that apparently no one else can even muster sympathy. Fuck man.
Easy there. Simple misuse of language on the first poster’s part.
Republican nazis deserve it. A few stripes of non-nazis who were so god damn dumb they functioned like their allies in ways that were extremely easy to see also deserve it.
The people who did the right thing don’t deserve it. You don’t.
Just linguistic issues about generalizations and groups. That’s all. Rage makes verbal aim shaky.
It simply comes down to “it didn’t matter.” Not in the collective sense, not in the long haul. I have no doubt the people you impacted appreciated it, I appreciate you even, but to the rest it just wasn’t enough.
Just world fallacy…
Life is fucked up. We are lucky just to live in a time where we survive past 25, let alone have electricity, let alone have the Internet…
Nobody “deserves” anything. Life is chaos.
America deserves what is to come
Yeah, maybe. But the rest of us sure fucking don’t. I feel a bit like a some random American I don’t know or endorse voted for me on a few global issues.
I’m pissed about that, I have to admit.
I’m absolutely sure this idiot has 4 years to fuck the world up. He’s not going to make us great again by helping anyone else…
He’s not making anything great again.
MAGA terrorists want to gun down trans people in the streets because they can’t help their ungodly attraction to them
TBH someone should be planning an “underground railroad” for these people.
I’m talking full on secret code type shit.
its going to get bad fast when he starts mobilizing militia, or worse.
He’s the punishment America deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
It seems like the problem was turnout. In the last election liberals decided to come out and vote to remove Trump from office. This time they didn’t bother to vote.
I am American, and I have always loved my country. Until now, I’ve never been ashamed to call myself patriotic. My thought has always been than there will always be uninformed, uneducated assholes that vote against their own self-interests and the interests of their own country.
This election is different, though. We knew exactly what we were getting if we re-elected Trump. We responded by not only electing him in a landslide election, but handing the House and the Senate over to the Republicans, too. It was a clear message. America is not a nation of mostly good people with a few vocal “bad apples.” We are a nation of hateful, scared bigots, and we proved it in a big way.
This was a turning point in American history, and the majority of us sent a clear message to their fellow citizens and to the world. America is not a nation of mostly good people being overshadowed by a media that covers the loudest assholes in the room. America is a nation of people who by a majority support exactly what the “crazy” Republicans are saying. I would feel better if Trump lost the popular vote but won the electoral vote, but that’s not what happened.
This isn’t an election where I’ve lost only lost faith in the democratic process or my fellow citizens, although both are true. This is an election where I’ve lost faith in my country as a whole. I have never been proudly Republican or proudly Democrat, but I’ve always been proudly American. Now I’m just… sad. I don’t expect I’ll see a day any time soon where I can honestly say I’m proud of my country. The best I can do is retreat into my own personal bubble, live my life, and watch the world burn around me until the flames consume everything I care about.
For me, it was the days and weeks after Jan 6th, when it became clear that outright insurrection, a violent coup, was not going to spark a course correct.
The republican party should have shattered. The non-fascists should have woken up, and fought with MAGA, and years later, a viable political party rise from the ashes.
But that didn’t happen. A few conscientious dissenters fell on their swords, most at retirement age anyway. Fascism took over completely. And the American people ate it up.
Weeks after Jan 6th, it was clear that consequences were not coming. They took their mask off, and no one cared, or couldn’t stop them.
And here we are. Convicted felon with absolute power on his way to the Whitehouse, who owns the SCOTUS, Senate, and likely the House.
Trump will have unchecked power to do whatever he damn well pleases.
Way to fucking go, America. I fucking hate my countrymen.
Take heart. Our fellow citizens are slow learners, and few of them have paid close attention to Trump and his shit forsaken privilege in escaping consequences since he left office.
It will be a long wait, but four years of unbridled trump will open a lot of eyes. Let them get a healthy, sustained dose of exactly what they didn’t realize they asked for and then we rebuild.
And don’t give away the House like that. It’s not over yet, and with any luck that guardrail will remain.
We had that the last time he won. Apparently we forgot how bad it was. Hell, he probably would have won in 2020 if it hadn’t been for COVID.
I dont think Ill be alive in four years, if theres even an election
Honestly yeah. My hopes are at this point our electoral process does exactly what it just did. It’s clear a lot of people went out and voted for him. Not a small group but a ton. And my resignment has just been “Okay, this is what you asked for, buckle up”.
It’s gonna suck ass and I really hope they don’t start some bullshit that makes them squeak out of the mess they’re about to step in. (They’ll definitely try to) But let’s give the American people exactly what they asked for and just try to stop the house from catching on fire while they realize what a bad idea it was.
I feel the exact same way…I’m disgusted with us for letting this happen.
I’m with you. It was absolutely soul crushing to watch the worst person to run for president get elected on no qualifications and give us reasons to despise him deeply every day for 8 years. But even worse was that people cheered him the fuck on. Then demanded more. This country is lost. We have no reason to hope anymore. Everything good is in danger and everything dangerous is a possibility. We’re fucked. I’ll never have another warm and fuzzy feeling about this country or its institutions.
If you truly consider yourself a patriot, you will do what you can to help the people who will actually be in danger during this administration. Find orgs near you that help the marginalized and underrepresented. Volunteer. Educate others. Do whatever you are able to.
This is not the time to retreat. This is a time for action.
America is not a nation of mostly good people with a few vocal “bad apples.” We are a nation of hateful, scared bigots, and we proved it in a big way.
A big chunk of the rest of the world have telling you that for decades, but you guys believed the lie about some “shining city upon a hill”. The American dream was always built on the misery of others.
How old are you, if you don’t mind me asking? I’m 40, started paying attention to politics in the Clinton years and then really paying attention with Bush v Gore in 2000. America was full on neolib vs neocon bullshit back then, a quarter of a century ago. The 2nd Iraq War was a big moment for me of realizing that the only thing America stands for is corporate hegemony. Project 25 is no different than the Project for a New American Century, and the “opposition” from the “left” isn’t fundamentally against any of it, they just pay a bit more lip service to culture issues (which are of course important if you aren’t a cis white christian male, but they are clearly not enough).
Tl;dr
I am close to the same age and something feels different now. The Trump administration is many levels of degenerate beyond the Bush administration. Even Dick fucking Cheney endorsed Kamala Harris FFS. I think Trump is pretty far beyond neocon, unfortunately. Just straight up Fascist.
The Neocons may have started rolling this snowball back then, but it is an avalanche now.
The majority of modern Republican presidents lost the popular vote, for one thing. This time that isn’t the case.
Project 25 is no different than the Project for a New American Century,
This is so wrong. Stop posting disinformation.
The situations are not at all comparable.
Thanks for writing this for me.
I’m in the same boat. I’m a white straight guy. So, I guess I’m not in immediate danger, although I am an academic. So, I guess my choices are: fight, flee or essentially hide.
Fighting seems infeasible although I think violence is justifiable.
Fleeing would require leaving the country. I dunno if I can swing that.
So…I guess I just live my life and hope it’s not quite as bad as I fear? I dunno. I’m open to advice.
I do now hate this country and the bulk of the people who live here. Fuck them.
Do you have any advice for a trans woman who is probably in immediate danger?
I’m not familiar with any organizations so I don’t have much advice, but this web search has a lot of resources that look like they may be helpful.
Sorry I can’t be more helpful. Stay safe!
More immigration! Turbo immigration! You think it’s bad now? Wait until the equator starts suffering wet bulb events
There won’t be more immigration. Quite the opposite. Get ready to see your friends, neighbors, and relatives deported. Get ready to see crops dying in the fields.
You silly person, the climate crisis coming doesn’t care, and neither will the climate refugees. We are going to see unprecedented suffering in the next two decades
I didn’t say we wouldn’t see suffering. I said that they will arrive and the Trump administration will deport them or something worse.
Yes there will, because you missed what he was saying about “wet-bulb” events.
If you wrap a wet cloth around a thermometer, and place it in air that has less than 100% relative humidity, the thermometer will read a lower temperature than an equivalent one without a wet cloth. This is because the evaporation of water wicks heat away from the thermometer; the lower the RH the faster the water will evaporate the heat from the thermometer and thus the lower the temperature will read. This is called the “wet-bulb temperature” and is how the human body cools itself when you sweat.
However, when the RH is 100% the wet-bulb and dry-bulb temperatures are the same, and the human body stops being able to cool itself by evaporation (since your sweat won’t evaporate because the air can’t hold any more moisture). In fact, thanks to physics not giving a fuck about how conservatives feel, there’s a point - thought to be above a wet-bulb temperature of 35 degrees C - where your body works in reverse and starts absorbing exterior heat.
This is fatal to the human.
The point is, the higher the RH, the less effective sweating is to cool humans down. Now what do you think will happen when people in equatorial regions- areas that have high humidity and temperatures to start with- see those temps go even higher thanks to climate change? They won’t have any choice but to move to higher latitudes, because just being outside for long periods of time will be lethal as their bodies slowly cook themselves.
And Trump will fucking gun them down at the border if we’re at that point.
You think the Supreme Court and court system as a whole is bad now? Just wait.
Well, at least half of it. They’ll get a lot more than they expected, I suspect.
They also solidified this form of political campaigning. Its only going to get more hateful from here on out. We are watching Nero burn Rome.
That horse sailed 8 years ago.
We are watching Nero burn Rome.
Watching? Hell, a third of us fucking gave Nero a match while spraying the city with gasoline, and another third said “You know, I do like s’mores…”
The Democratic Party repeatedly expressed the need for a strong Republican Party. They sure got it.
Joe Biden said as much, out loud, several times.
