JD Vance said that ‘American power comes with certain strings attached’
Sabre rattling, or legit threat?
Their negotiation position within NATO isn’t absolute, so I think the most likely response is the EU agreeing to look at it, and that Trump is smart and handsome, and then mostly doing whatever they were going to do anyway.
The article is from September, why is it it being posted now?
This seems like an insane threat.
The US is the primary beneficiary of NATO. Does he expect all those countries will keep hosting US military bases if NATO drops?Are they actually US bases or are they actually NATO bases?
If the latter, then it’d just be case of “my swipe card doesn’t work anymore”.
It’s a bit confusing to figure out who technically owns the bases. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_military_installations
As near as I can tell, almost all of them are actually owned by the US. The more important aspect is how it affects the “deal”.
The implied “deal” has always been that the US provides military resources to defend “the West” against the USSR/Russia and, in exchange, the US gets to be the primary voice in determining international policy (ie the famous “rules based international order”). That’s why the US president has traditionally been referred to as, “the leader of the free world.”
That deal has degraded a bit over time as other Western countries recovered from the damage of WWII and started flexing their own power.
Altering the deal so that everyone else pays entirely (or mostly) for its own defense also removes or seriously damages the incentive to follow the US vision of international policy.
Raytheon will never allow this.
If this happens I will regret not voting for trump
hes not as pathological with his lies as his orange fuckbuddy but it makes his statements suspect
Yay for the American oligarchs
The American bourgeoisie loves NATO, which is why this will likely never happen.
Yay for the American oligarchs
Yay, for Europeans banking everything from security, economy, foreign policy to continuation of transatlantism and therefore making every US problem and shakeup our problem. Not to even speak of the many occasions when US tries to use it’s power over Europe to shank Europe for US’s own gain.
World Wars ‘hero’ pass revoked.
Go fuck yourselves. Misinformation and money over world peace, fuck you and everyone who thinks this was something you could dismiss for a lying fascist to tank your economy and kill your neighbours while killing people elsewhere.
Are you saying NATO is for or against World Peace? The Global North loves NATO for solidifying Imperialist power, the Global South hates NATO because the Global South is the target of said Imperialism, and NATO solidifies that system of global exploitation.
The american vassal states of europe will do anything the US tells them to
Is the presumptive VP speedrunning boy who cried wolf? If the US is going to pull out of NATO, I doubt it’ll be over pennyante shit like 𝕏itter regulation.
They’re looking for an excuse to blame the victim.
From what I’ve seen, Trump has already been considering this anyway. This is an empty threat
europe/EU needs to start regulating these twitter bots ASAP
Do we think Vance is stupid enough to not understand that NATO primarily benefits the US? If “Europe” is cut off from the US, they’re going to make deals with China and (to a lesser extent) Russia. Trump obviously doesn’t understand shit, but Vance is the puppet of Peter Thiel, who you’d think would know better.
Inshallah they don’t know better.
Do we think Vance is stupid enough to not understand that NATO primarily benefits the US?
Right, regardless of any broader foreign policy view, Vance should at least understand it in purely cynical terms for bargaining leverage.
But I think blindly grappling toward tariffs and no NATO is part of the instinct for attacking liberalism and neoliberalism in a big hot tangled mess of reactionary instincts rather than an intentional road to a different vision.
Can’t tell if he’s serious but I always get a chuckle when people suggest NATO is some American benevolence.
