UHC, Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield, Caresource and more are removing or redirecting their about us pages.
If you’re worried that your CEO will be murdered, that might be an indicator that you have some deep problems as a company. If you’re all worried, that may be an indicator that your entire industry is a problem.
Of course they won’t see it that way.
It’s really not that hard to run an insurance company without making people want to murder you
While I think these are scum, people want to murder people over too little cheese on their burger.
OK, but do do you think this particular case is similar to “too little cheese on a burger”?
No, and I never said that. But thinking that you can run a big business and nobody would be “kill you” mad at you is very optimistic. People can be incredibly irrational, and the more customers you have the higher the odds of a crazy. And you only need one crazy to get lucky.
If I was a CEO of a big company, I’d want some security 24/7, even if I made Saint Gaben look horrible in comparison, because you never know when some certifiable in Bumfuckistan decides I’ve destroyed his peepee with mind rays or something, and decides the only logical thing is to kill me.
However, with this guy everyone wants him dead, and I really hope some of the chucklefucks running such companies start thinking if that really is the legacy they want to leave behind.
Honestly… I’m not sure that it is. The entire concept of an “insurance company” (particularly health insurance) is inherently predatory.
The entire concept of an “insurance company” (particularly health insurance) is inherently predatory.
They made sense when the only insurance was the kind that paid out if you sent a ship to India and it sank on the journey.
Remember, one of the provisions of the ACA was requiring insurance companies to ensure at least 90% of expenditure was directly towards covering care, meaning insurance companies are legally permitted an incredible up to 10% profit margin. For context most retailers have profit margins of 1-2%
Don’t forget that the ACA also stipulated they had to send overage checks out to members if they spent more on marketing, bonuses, etc than on services. Getting refund checks from Blue Cross/Blue Shield at the end of the year because they spent too much money on everything but healthcare wasn’t exactly reassuring.
Even worse, they are colluding with big pharma to raise prices, because would you rather get a 10% profit off of $100 or $10000?
For profit insurance companies are inherently predatory. But so are for profit hospitals and drug companies.
So yeah at this point, it might be impossible to run a non profit insurance company with the consolidation of hospital ownership by the few big hospitals and Catholic Church, and the vertical monopolies of the insurance, drug and pharmacies.
Have the government run it (if we ever again have a sane government).
Feels like we’ll be lucky if Medicare makes it through the next term.
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Most other countries have figured out how to prevent people from wanting to murder health insurance CEOs…
Then again there seems to be a few things that other countries have figured out, but American exceptionalism won’t consider trying.
Don’t forget that that a CEO legally has to maximize profits. Otherwise the shareholders can sue.
Edit: apparently this is incorrect. It is what they’re hired to do though, so not a big difference.
Don’t forget that that a CEO legally has to maximize profits.
That depends on the corporate charter.
Yea dummy… that is the “reality” we want changed.
To you it’s immutable, to us it’s not.The economy isn’t driven by the laws of the universe, it’s people, we can change it any time and have chosen not to. So now CEOs are dying.
Wanna change it now? No?
Alright cool. Maybe this is the new normal then.
People have a limit.I don’t understand what you’re trying to say
They will now create fake CEO profiles (with machine learning capability) available only on Zoom due to safety concerns.
May be one day, they will also replace the CEO by an AI agent. That won’t be worst than today anyway…
Isn’t this the plot of Deus Ex: Human Revolution? Been years so maybe I’m forgetting… But I remember the main media/propaganda ending up being run by an AI…
May be… it’s been a while for me too. I remember loving the ambiance and music of this game… Good idea when the weather is bad (if it will work under linux).
Yeah, great game. Got a lot of flack for not being the same as the original, but I really enjoyed it.
Fairly sure today’s version of “AI” could easily replace CEOs; nothing of value would be lost.
Smells like guilt to me
Remember what these people tell us - “you don’t need privacy if you have nothing to hide”
Not nearly enough.
Yet.
We killed one CEO, which resulted in one change to their company.
They stopped automatically denying people anesthetic for surgeries because a CEO was shot.
It works, it was just proven that indiscriminate attacks against the wealthy result in them making concessions.
Now we just need to kill one CEO for every small improvement we want to see.
We have a lot of work ahead of us as a country
not enough in the long run, there must be something that prevents this shit from coming back if we manage to fix or improve it in anyway. Otherwise they will just bide their time and we are back at the same point but with even less chances to do anything about it.
Cowards.
I initially was thinking that people were just aggressive about him, because of the insurance companies and not necessarily what he did, especially since he was CEO for 3 years, but looks like UH had rejections in single digit and after he took over they jumped to over 20%
I understand the outrage though. While some rejections could be people asking for things that are not necessary, for example Ozempic if one doesn’t have diabetes, many of those affect quality of life for millions of people and even affect of they can live or die.
It is absolutely horrible and unethical to make money on misfortune of others.
It is absolutely horrible and unethical to make money on misfortune of others.
It’s not just making money on the misfortune of others; it’s active and intentional cruelty on the most vulnerable people who are the least able to fight back. It’s active choices that hurt these people, bankrupt them, or send them to their deaths, all for maximizing profits.
It’s cruel, it’s inhumane, it’s vile, and ALL the US health insurance companies do it. They are all guilty of these crimes against humanity.
Health Insurance for profit is unethical. Period.
Health care for profit? Also unethical.
Somebody in another thread yesterday pointed out how those stats are also after appeals are accounted for. So it’s not all the stuff they denied, but the stuff that they denied again after doctors and patients went through the appeal process. They had worked in appeals at another health insurance company, and said that the only way you could see denial rates that high were if UHC were denying almost everything that wasn’t a standard checkup like an annual physical.
He was also CEO when they setup an AI that had a 90% error rate that was denying claims.
we should use that AI to coordinate the manhunt for his killer.
things that are not necessary, for example Ozempic if one doesn’t have diabetes
Weight loss is important if you are obese even if you don’t have diabetes. Especially since it can lead to diabetes.
I wish people didn’t have to turn to a drug to lose weight, but obesity is a (no pun intended) massive problem in the U.S.
One of the big problems in our healthcare system is preventative medicine is not even considered a thing by insurance most of the time.
Also certain psych meds can cause weight gain that is incredibly hard to lose if the person needs to stay on it to remain stable.
I can see ozempic helping those folks, especially since meds like abilify can increase the risk of developing diabetes. It’s a shitty side effect, one that doctors seem to shrug off, but it really matters to the patients and it often really bothers them.
Let’s hope they live in fear. Let’s hope they are never comfortable, even in their mansions and yachts.
Now that the CEOs have all been herded into their gated communities, it would be a good time to lock those gates from the outside.
Even less readily visible accountability.
“there gooees my hero! Watch him as he goes!”
They shouldn’t let this become common. Hiding who Runs the company just makes them even MORE faceless and disconnected from humanity. Maybe focus on not shafting literally the entire population for money and shit coverage.
If they’re publicly traded, then leadership is public record. Someone could always publish the info for them in a more helpful way than This
If they’re publicly traded, then leadership is public record
For now.
There’s a lot of CEOs and wannabe CEOs about to enter government.
I would expect only the wrong lessons will be learnt. But I already saw a headline about another insurance company reverting some stupid policy, so maybe correct ones will be learnt, too.
Not worth my time to check who it was (I think BCBS), but they were going to deny the totality of the anesthesia line item for a surgery if the allotted time (and therefore the expected amount of anesthesia used) exceeded the original estimate.
You’re correct.
Deny, Defend, Depose
How do we know what order they were supposed to be read in, I wonder.
Expected, I guess.
The irony is that if a lot of corpos start doing this, it makes a cult of personality impossible. In the case of UC it probably doesn’t apply anywhere, but it will elsewhere.
archive.org and linked in.
Don’t paint a target on archive.org.
you know where we can paint a target?
LinkedIn, duh.
The CEOs
archive.today too; name and shame.
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May the rest of them be tried in court and sued so that all their blood money gets repurposed into something useful instead of just being willed to their entitled children.
Won’t happen. They kill people all nice and legal.
