i bet this will become the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us and; given the democrat’s obstinacy when it came to constructive criticism during the election; americans will treat it as another nothing-burger like they did with the genocide and it’ll become yet another nail in the coffin of the american empire’s decline; besides the election, ukraine’s defeat, afghanistan withdrawal, iraqi wmd’s, etc.
ukraine’s defeat
Tankie moment.
yes, it’s tankie to spell out reality in the united states.
sometime i wish this were reddit so i could do remind me next year
No it’s a tankie thing to say Ukraine lost when the war is ongoing. You just want Putin’s dictatorship to have more land.
Down with Russian imperialism.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
No it’s a tankie thing to say Ukraine lost when the war is ongoing. You just want Putin’s dictatorship to have more land.
Down with Russian imperialism.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
i want the ukrainians to exist as sovereign peoples instead of a new vassal state to the dying american empire since the people that i descend from have been trying for almost 500 years to shake off the enslavement of this same empire.
There are no proposals of Ukraine joining the United States.
Russia is the country to blame causing the problems in the region as the Kremlin is responsible for Holodomor and for the rampant corruption in Eastern Europe.
the ukrainian inexplicably want to join the american hegemony called nato on the eve of its collapse; they’re better off on their own w/o serving as a a future proxy battlefield with the collapsing united states empire.
So is this what people keep talking about when they say they see a lot of tankies in lemmy?
Cause me reading that, OP was implying the likely defeat given current trend, I did not take it as a support of Putin.
yeah the democrats did it. ffs.
the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us
What do you think it has been used for up to this point?
it’s been done surreptitiously or academic masturbation until now
The government knows when you masturbate The government knows when you feel alone And it’s getting late and you’re sitting at home
i get that this is snark; but in case you really didn’t know: snowden proved that they had this capability circa 2008 and they’ve only gotten better at it after 15+ years.
Oh - it’s not snark… it’s a song: https://youtu.be/4zH9Zca1vRM
the corn dog ammunition belt made the american flags feel redundant. lol
this will become the first public example of the state surveillance being used to protect our oligarchy from us
This feels hyperbolic.
The state protects the status quo, including whoever has money. I wouldn’t limit it to surveillance. If we’re just talking about the US, there’s the Battle of Blair Mountain, all of COINTELPRO, Watergate (I think?), etc.
the difference is that it’s in the news and has widespread appeal.
those examples were either done surreptitiously or were only academic exercises in privacy; this is real-world application of that academic theory that has the chance of not being suppressed or ignored due to its notoriety.
Limp dick regime goons aint got shit… and the long this goes, the more likely he will get away with it.
I hope all of these business “leadership” add this to their calculus when they fuck over paying customers to live large.
FAFO
It’s already been two and a half days. The longer they go without catching him the less likely it will be that they do.
The fact that they are issuing a wider manhunt seems to back that up.
Given the publicity, I’m sure that they’ll catch a guy, but I’m skeptical that they’ll catch that guy.
Hate to burst the bubble but this guy threatened the illusion that the billionaire class is untouchable. The ultra-rich are going to be leaning heavily on all the politicians and officials they helped put into position to ensure this guy gets caught no matter the cost, and ensure he’s made an example of.
It might not be the NYPD or any other civil police department, but you can bet NSA & FBI leadership is getting multiple phone calls demanding they get involved and go over every piece of information related to the shooting they can get till they identify the killer. The ultra-rich won’t let this one slide as one of their own was publicly murdered, so they won’t stop at anything to ensure the killer’s character is publicly murdered so that anyone who tries to copycat or get ideas can equally be ostracized as an outcast.
Even if they don’t the guy, they’ll still find a guy. The illusion of control must be maintained.
Do you think they’ll let him get in front of a jury or will they kill him before they bring him in?
"I want him dead or guilty!’
They’ll kill him and make it look like he went crazy and turned a gun on them or something and it was their only option.
Or he’ll get Epstein’d.
Or he’ll mysteriously fall from a high balcony.
Even if they catch him and hang him, it doesn’t mean that he didn’t accomplish his goal.
If you’re trying to show your untouchable, revenge won’t prove that.
Taking out another CEO would, tho.
The dude that got shot wasn’t a billionaire, not even close. With a net worth of $54 million he’s just as much of a peasant to them as we are.
He wasn’t a billionaire, but he was filthy sticking rich, and made his money by causing untold stress and harm on other people.
I mean his company was already notoriously evil when he was just a high-ranking executive. But he took the helm, and wanted more money by being crueler than that.
Fine, he was a bad dude, but a millionaire getting shot doesn’t “shatter the illusion that billionaires are untouchable” any more than you or me getting shot would
I think you might be wrong there. How much conversation was happening a week ago about actually killing rich folks? I saw it occasionally here on lemmy in the form of ‘eat the rich.’ Out in my meatspace conversations though? Never. There might have been a grumble once a year, or they might agree with a statement about the elite political and financial class not caring about harm done to anyone else. In the last few days, even my normiest of normal friends has been talking about it, even if not directly. Most of the comments aren’t putting the rich in a positive light either.
This event has sparked a great deal of thought about death and taxes.
Unfortunately, I’ve worked with a lot of republicans in my lifetime. Hating overpaid CEOs and thinking insurance is a scam are 2 of the only things I’ve seen republicans and democrats agree on. Good fucking luck convicting him.
200 pics are big boy words.
That’s at least 10 seconds of video footage at 20 FPS.
“Why?”
“200 pics” yeah, sure. They don’t know shit.
I hope they fail
50 years later they finally find him having lived a long fruitful life I’m Santa Monica as a smile model in Colgate commercials. Had 10 children with a beautiful model wife who loved him. Probably worked at the muffler shop for 20 years before discovering his Passion for photography.
Imagine doing this much public service then retiring into a regular job because you are a chill guy who just likes helping people
Something the rich parasites would never understand
King George, upon learning of George Washington’s intention to resign, said “If he does that, he will be the greatest man in the world.”
I’m not here to lionize or even defend slaveowner George Washington. Your comment just made me think of that.
Imagine what happens if they fail, and they can’t even produce a fall guy?
The thing is, Americans know their police force is lazy and useless. We’re all joking about all the murders that will go unsolved that have occurred since the CEO’s death. Now, there’s a real chance that their incompetence will be on full display. Is it really out of the question to think that they have become so impotent that someone could carefully plan and execute an assassination?
Yeah totally
I expect they’ll find a fall guy if they can’t find the real killer. Can’t look incompetent when the nation’s watching!
In addition to looking for the killer, police are still searching for a motive as to why someone would kill Thompson.
This is definitely where they need to focus their resources first.
I’m convinced. This is a South Park episode.
Is the NYPD not aware of the internet?
Yes. It is extremely bizarre how something like this could happen.
Especially since the president elect already said he could do the same thing one block over, four years ago
It’s clear they haven’t even given it a first look. The guy put the title of the book on the bullet casings
Too bad they can’t read!
Somebody looking to hide their motive would that too tho
Honestly? Yea probably. It’d be fucking amazing if the police ended up releasing a report on just how much UHC fucked this guy or his family/friends over.
I mean for all we know it has nothing to do with healthcare premiums. The guy could be a fellow board member who got boned out of a bonus or something.
The message on the bullets would suggest otherwise. To me that seems like an attempt to preempt speculation that the motive had nothing to do with insurance company fuckery.
Tbf, that’s the largest pool of potential suspects, so it makes sense that they’d want to call police attention in that direction regardless of the actual motive. I do think it’s genuine, but it’s a smart move either way
Could just as easily be a red herring.
I mean, most likely it isn’t internal insurance drama, but it could be.
Besides, how amazing would it be for the cops to say “yeah so we researched this and it was definitely a retaliation execution for all the lives he murdered in his quest for money and power”. Talk about putting the billionaire class on alert haha
Do one a week and they’ll get overwhelmed. They can’t put all their resources into a dozen different manhunts each, by definition.
One a week would be about 6 CEOs before the nazis officially take over
I’d take it
Heh
how about some totally true tips we saw him walk past nearby?
There he goes!
There he goes again!
Racing through my CCTV!
Best of luck with getting cooperation from citizens at large.
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All 337,522,185 of us didn’t see nothin’.
…but the cameras and AI did :(
Turns out AI is wrong 90% of the time though
I’m not too fussed about the AI, to be honest. It’ll just declare that it has 14,986 suspects who “definitely” did it, most of whom will just coincidentally turn out to be black.
The odds of them being able to definitively tie a face to a name in a single stroke are pretty remote. The investigation strategy will probably revolve around tracking down where he went and how he got there. If he rode a bus, they will investigate who was on that bus. Same if he took a plane. Or if he hired an Uber, or whatever. Whose credit cards were used to purchase tickets, whose cell phones were tracked in those locations at those times, etc. Wasn’t he on a rental bike? They will try to track payment methods for those rental bikes. Etc.
Even with all their manpower and spy technologies and cell phone spoofing towers and dogs and any amount of shiny badges, the cops can’t clear a solve rate for murders in the US that’s any better than 50%. So there’s a coin-toss chance this guy didn’t go out of his way to do anything right and still walks away.
the cops can’t clear a solve rate for murders in the US that’s any better than 50%.
That is averaged between the murders they don’t care about and the ones they put effort into. It isn’t thst every individual murder has a 50% chsnce of being solved.
According to an ABC article, he apparently used cash for everything. Clever dude if true
I didn’t know you could use cash for rental bikes.
All the ones in Chicago need the app in order to rent them.
Could you do it with a burner phone and load the app from a Visa gift card? Rent and place the city bike around the corner, do the deed, drop the phone (whether on accident or on purpose), take off on the bike.
Maybe pay a random stranger in cash to rent a bike for you
I really hope this doesn’t lead business to not accept cash.
I should use more cash on a daily basis to discourage this…
Businesses in NYC love cash. Shops everywhere have discounts for paying in cash. There are ATMs everywhere with $1 or less fee.
Press X to doubt.
