cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/50439521
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/33851469
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Land of Double Standards.
Pulling an excerpt from George Carlin: “Politicians hide behind three things in this country: The Flag, The Bible and Children. No child left behind! It wasn’t long ago you were talking about giving children a headstart. Headstart, Left Behind. Someone’s losing fucking ground here.”
He spoke the truth but most of us were too young to understand but how did boomers miss these money shots.
They were the audience
Haha funny man is funny. Ooo my 401k is growing, line go up. What’s on TV?
Not that it would have made a difference but as far as I know there was no call to action from Carlin. Without that many people just say yup, that’s life, and keep their head down.
US citizens, are you planning to protest?
We would, but most of us are too unhealthy from lack of access to affordable healthcare and can lose our jobs if we try to take time off work.
Tinfoil hat time. Our government fucking hates our asses. Lower class? Get shot, die from preventable diseases, whatever, just do it quietly so it doesn’t bother the wealthy while they grease each other’s palms.
Protests within US are limited to major cities otherwise logistics are fucked due to suburb lay out of the most of the country.
Also, most of are just too docile, it ain’t an issue I til they personally get fucked.
That’s their point: America never does anything. People love to act like they stand for something, but cower at the slightest consequence or inconvenience.
Yes but they need all those guns if the government oversteps. Well corporations have overstepped and been stealing our money for decades and nothing happens. By dteeling I mean our wages are stagnent but c suite have increased immensely.
Last time we had a major protest in the city of Chicago, 24 people died. That’s a little more than “the slightest consequence or inconvenience”
Luigi’s protest was way more efficient. Only one person has died.
And the weirdly most people under 40 are in clear alignment for weeks now lol
When we have protests large enough to get noticed, we get attacked by the police. Why should the protesters have to suffer? Make the oppressors suffer instead.
How
We have the Russian “and then it got worse” do nothing attitude. We aren’t even gonna try to do anything till its far too late.
I do believe it would be a tactical error on their part to give him the death penalty… make a real martyr
Yeah, killing him seems like the best way to get riots all over the country…
Hahaha yah right. If they kill him there we’ll be massive bitching online and that’s about it.
I had the same thought. Us North Americans are not used to sacrificing ourselves for the betterment of the future generations.
Maybe they should charge his parents too, like they did with some other school shooters. But wait, his parents are rich and the other ones lived in trailer parks.
He is old enough to have to buy his own health insurance lol
He’s an adult. Parents get charged when they don’t properly secure their firearms from their minor child, which isn’t what is being alleged here. It’s not really comparable.
The comparison is definitely stupid because this guy planned the whole thing! Its not like he accidentally started a rebellion in an accidentally treasonous way while trying to steal the office of a high government official. Everyone knows the punishment for that is …another 4 years of government.
I might be confused by your comment and not understanding it properly so excuse me if I’m just not understanding right.
Are you saying that all the school shooters in America did not actively plan to kill all of those children and/or teenagers?
School shooters took a gun to a school and started open firing on children who were no threat and never even had a chance to grow up and hurt anyone.This guy planned it out, killing one adult who was responsible for the deaths of a lot of fellow Americans while he got richer and richer from their suffering and deaths.
I believe the term you are looking for is a type of ruzzian chasm. A casm from the czar himself. Some would come to call it czarcasm but it wouldn’t be until 1927 when a group of Mexican explorers traveling past the Rio grand to visit their cousins in California… Nevermind the story, I was being sarcastic.
Got it 🫡
He was ironicly making a comparison with Trump, convicted of serious crimes but still being elected president
I love bow this meme gets fact checked and the thesis get tighter.
Brian Thompson is a parasite, no empathy for them
Shouldn’t there be leniency for killing a killer?
Yes I know it’s about “sending a message”, but messages go both ways.In this case, I wouldn’t even call Luigi a killer. He’s a hero, if any.
When the killing is in self defense or in the defense of many, many victims, is this called justifiable homicide?
FFS, it’s not even him, people need to stop accepting he is the killer. He is not, news made sure that pics from the killing footage were buried so people would forgot them, because when you compare them with Luigi, its obviously NOT him… And there is no doubt here, killer is smaller, whiter (like Irish white), slim eyebrows, and less muscle body shape than Luigi.
Why do people try to make him a martyr, when it is not even the killer.
If he isn’t the killer, why did he have the same gun as the killer and a notebook detailing who he was going to kill and how he was going to do it?
Because he is a patsy.
And now that Republicans are set to have the Presidency, Congress and SCOTUS all at the same time, there doesn’t seem to be any barriers left.
Abolish capital punishment!
MILDLY infuriating??!?
To put it mildly. 😋
The !ExtremelyInfuriating@lemmy.world community seemed dead so I posted it here instead.
Doesn’t make sense to compare a rate of an outcome (without even knowing how often that outcome was sought) with an individual attempt whose outcome is not even known yet.
When Mangione IS actually given the death penalty, this ‘argument’ will actually amount to something. Dumb until then.
Good luck finding a jury to convict him of jaywalking.
Some homicides are self defence.
For that very reason… He will never see a jury. This will be decided by ONE judge…
Who has already written his poinion
6th amendment guarantees the right to a jury trial. The only way he doesn’t see a jury is if he waives that right.
We’re in a pretty nice bubble here on Lemmy and the fediverse. There’s a LOT of bootlickers who happily want him convicted
Vigilante justice only feels nice when you agree with the Vigilante. The curse of internet bubbles is that people feel like everyone agrees. Bubbles build extreme values and a lack of understanding of other peoples values.
You become right. Others become bootlickers.
opposing world views fighting
A competing viewpoint is that our health insurance system is fine and that denying people coverage and either saddling them with debt or causing their deaths is also fine. Anyone who thinks that way hasn’t had to deal with a claim getting rejected. But with AI reject bots becoming more common over time everyone will. Pain can teach empathy.
Most people are fine with a little institutionalized corruption but when essential services like healthcare stop functioning they’re going to get very angry. It’s not so much vigilante justice as it is an insurrection against bad governance.
Or… killing people is wrong, even shitty people.
Or actually lots and lots of reasons. In a nuanced world filled with billions of people, there are very different viewpoints.
We can frame violence in ways that justify or invalidate its righteousness.
It depends on how you define “wrong”. But there are universal truths. If someone tries to kill or harm you it’s considered just if you harm them in defense.
We dont know Luigi’s legal defense yet but my guess is his attorney will argue self defense. If so the justice system now has to sort out whether this was self defense and in that sense it will likely be considered wrong.
Imagine thinking there should be consequences for assassins.
Sometimes the consequence for doing a good thing is that people like that you did a good thing, legality be damned.
Lol this isn’t one of those.
It’s because he crossed state lines?
That’s how they’re justifying the federal charges, because he went from one state to the next, and he used the internet.
This you shall offer in the morning and this you shall offer at twilight, a lamb without blemish.
What religion this mr. Mangione represented?
