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Why does it call XMPP “Chat Standard”?
From the perspective of private users, WhatsApp is the benchmark
Not entirely, there is also Discord
WhatsApp, Signal, & some others use the same open standardization end-to-end encryption. It’s the bare minimum bar for acceptable (but most of these apps require a primary Android/iOS device to hold the key which plays right into that duopoly as well as making smart phones a requirement rather than optional).
Discord has no e2ee, many rooms require phone numbers, the service is proprietary, they have trackers, they send cease & desists to projects wanting to be alternate clients. These are not the hallmarks for privacy or security.
What is an actual popular client that uses xmpp
Conversations, Cheogram, Dino are the ones I’ve used.
Conversations is paid and has like 100k downloads, and it looks like it’s from Android kitkat. The other two don’t even exist on the app store. Do you consider these to be popular? I’m looking for actual popular apps, just like I can say Element for Matrix.
Wat. Conversations is on F-Droid… and it’s the basis for Blabber, Cheogram, Monocles, etc. It’s the most influential XMPP application in the Android space.
Literally never heard of any of those, or see any community link to them. Is that really what XMPP considers their most bleeding edge clients?
Then you need to meet more communities 😅
Also for the sake of chat, what’s something truly innovative since the heyday of AIM & IRC? There just isn’t many useful bells & whistles to be added in the last decade. The newer XEPs for stickers+message reactions have been out with some new clients picking them up, but these aren’t something fundamentally changing how folks speak.
XMPP is great but the clients are all really bad.
Session is where it’s at.
