Super easy, barely an inconvenience. The age of social media needs to die
Says dude on social media
This is more like a-social media dawg lol
The age of social media dying is tight!
Yeah yeah yeah… yeah
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Why die, though? There are open source and federated alternatives or there.
Doesn’t matter. The whole 'ness of it is bad for humanity.
eh. the format sucks but forum type things would be cool to have again.
Bring back NNTP!
A federated system of discussion groups. That’s such a 90s idea.
he’s replacing it with community notes, which is a good thing. the problem i have with Facebook and Instagram is all the useless junk videos that i didn’t ask for and it keeps showing me
Community note: this guy smells and is wrong.
Community saw this as a potential note and agreed that it isn’t provably true and doesn’t contribute to the post. Rejected and it won’t be shown.
If you think this method doesn’t work I have an entire Wikipedia to show you.
How quickly would wiki tank if the bad faith actors outnumbered the good?
And have you SEEN Facebook?
The bad faith actors used to outnumber the good. That’s why Wikipedia’s reputation has never recovered, and they’ve never been able to beat the allegations. However, Wikipedia fixed what was wrong with their system of citing and verifying information contributed by others years ago. And X’s Community Notes system has a similar mechanism in place that has proven to be equally as effective and verifiable.
they don’t usually happen that way
Since Facebook market place is the defacto classified now I keep my account around to buy and sell. My feed is full of AI generated images related to anything I search on market place. Right now it is all trucks because I was looking for truck tires.
i keep seeing dirtbikes climbing hills and fair enough ok
Just because they are calling it community notes doesnt mean that Facebooks notes would work the same way as Xitters notes.
Once these platforms are perceived as a way for people to make a living somehow, they ain’t leaving. That’s why nice places like mastodon stay niche. Without virality, people don’t see the upside for them. They want a grift they can understand.
That is sounding more and more like a benefit to me. Social media that functions as social media for humans and not just another giant corporate surveillance and marketing machine wearing a fun app costume.
I get it, but I also understand people that need to go “this is me, can I have some money?” on social media.
Oh yeah no disagreement there. The way that social media of all types democratizes content creation and celebrity status is great.
For me personally, the YouTube model is great where individuals can basically produce their own TV show or documentaries. But all the other big corporate social media services are meh in comparison. When it comes to interaction rather than consuming, that’s when I love Lemmy.
I am now scheduled for deletion.
It’s silly they don’t just delete it instead they make you wait…
It’s so they can back your shit up probably lol
No, it’s so they can cancel the deletion if you “change your mind” (read: interact with it in any way).
i worry about (future, AI enhanced) impersonation attempts so I just keep it secure and don’t post anything.
I don’t. Everyone I know knows I don’t use any Meta products, so it would have limited impact.
my grandma is still alive, some other family as well. with AI voice cloning and things i just foresee a lot of negative possibilities. maybe in another decade nobody i know would be on those places as well, hopefully there is some alternative for keeping up with family and old colleagues etc.
What about regular calls and visits? People don’t seem to have genuine conversations on SM like they do in person or on the phone.
unfortunately can’t jet across the country regularly, as much as i might wish. and sometimes calls happen over (guess what) fb messenger. not everything is a conversation, but meta products cover a lot of ground beyond status updates at this point.
They do, but is that actually helping build your relationship? Or does it make you feel like you’re more connected than you are and justify calling/visiting a bit less?
Critics see the move as an attempt to cater to the incoming Trump administration and avoid political retaliation,
Give me a break. Since when does the billionaire parasite class have anything to fear from the US establishment?
Since the people in charge went full fascist.
The billionaire parasite class ARE the people in charge.
The fascists serve them, genius. That’s the whole point of fascism.
Yes that’s what we’re Increasingly moving towards.
Beware though, that all of this is a spectrum…
Yes that’s what we’re Increasingly moving towards.
Nope. We’ve been there for a long, long time now. People are only figuring it out now, though.
Beware though, that all of this is a spectrum…
The (so-called) “political spectrum” becomes perfectly irrelevant once you understand WHY and HOW our political establishments dangle the liberal carrot and the fascist stick before us.
Nope. We’ve been there for a long, long time now.
To a degree yes, but the intensity changes. And I know there were times, where there was even greater inequality (e.g. Mansa Musa). Yet it’s not really comparable with the modern world, which largely relies on speculative assets, and growth.
becomes perfectly irrelevant
No it doesn’t, fascism is a different level than liberal establishments. Our democracies are far from perfect, but they at least have some form of control by the people, to keep power somewhat in check. Fascism is definitely concentrating on centralizing power, with the tendency to escalate (as obviously seen in the past). Also there are a lot of statistics, which show, that we were in a comparably very peaceful state for some time (since the last world war), but we’re currently getting out of that period again (though still relatively peaceful), into a more autocratic world again unfortunately.
I’m speaking as european, where things are not (yet) that bad. The “democracy” in the USA is definitely less democratic than let’s say scandinavian democracies… And I don’t want to even begin with something like Russia or China.
Billionaires or not, they don’t have control of state militaries (yet at least). In fascism, the state is at the top, and corporations bend the knee and become an extension of the government to be used at the whims of its authoritarian leader.
What it ultimately comes down to is power and the capacity for violence. It doesn’t matter how much money you have, if a government can just drone strike your entire family, does it?
they don’t have control of state militaries
Of course they don’t. They don’t need direct control of the military. That’s what their pet political establishment is there for. You know… the political establishment who gets to decide who they will ALLOW you to vote for every four years?
In fascism, the state is at the top
And liberalism differs from that… how?
and become an extension of the government
And what did you think the Military-Industrial Complex was?
You’re not describing anything here that differs from liberalism in any fundamental way. You’re not wrong - I just don’t think you realize the full implications of what it is you are saying.
It doesn’t matter how much money you have,
We’re not talking about the surgeon who lives in the nice part of town and drives a Merc here… we are talking about the capitalist class who controls ALL of our society INCLUDING it’s repression apparatus. And Trump, an incompetent capitalist nepobaby cosplaying as a fascist, needs Zuckerberg far more than Zuckerberg needs Trump. Trump knows it, and the entire US political establishment knows it.
Lol you just said liberalism is the same as fascism… Stopped reading there.
Also helps when you see a user you previously tagged confirming that you were correct the first time.
You don’t want to know why the liberals keep fascists around?
They do say ignorance is bliss - maybe that applies to you.
no fact checking and a ton of bots being added? Sounds like a fantastic place to spend time. /s
People should’ve dropped FB back in 2016 or when the Cambridge Analytica happened.
I don’t remember exactly when I did but it was around then. Sooo much happier honestly.
It was that combined with the fact that they create shadow profiles for your unborn child when your wife is pregnant. (Found out through FB being allowed to track your browsing history even off the app). That was the final straw right after the Cambridge Analytica issue.
Wait what the bloody fuck? I haven’t heard anything about this. Sounds right up their alley, but what evidence is it based on?
If you look up the practical application of Shadow profiles they have the ability to gather information about non-users, which also includes unborn children in the case of them discovering that the mother is pregnant through whatever web searches that they may be doing even outside of Facebook. The whole science of Shadow profiles used to strengthen the algorithm is incredibly frightening and part of the reason why I left Facebook.
I can almost excuse shadow profiles for things like “two people both have X contact in their phone”, but making them for unborn children? Lord have mercy. That’s genuinely crazy. It makes me wonder if it’s something like they just marked someone as pregnant based on searches (weird, but maybe acceptable, idk) and it got taken out of context? Hopefully? Either way it’s icky.
I hadn’t heard of this either but here’s an article about Facebook keeping shadow profiles on non-users that references an article from 2012 where Target’s data collection determined a teen girl was pregnant before she told her dad
I deleted mine shortly thereafter. I tried to convince friends and family to do the same but got accusations of being paranoid or a conspiracy theorist. Jump to now, everyone’s Christmas gifts from them this year was tatty bullshit from Temu that was advertised to them on Facebook and I spend most of my time with them dismantling conspiracy theories and misinformation they picked up from the dumbasses they interact with on that fucking site.
Stayed with FB despite Cambridge because Portal TV.
I’ll still maintain an account because Portal TV.
It’s a gorgeous product done wrong by meta and in need of a cloning.
I deleted my Facebook account years ago, probably right around 2016. I met a new girl last year and she wanted me to make a Facebook account so she could send me stuff. I relented and made a “new” account using the same email I used back in 2016. Low and behold, Facebook never deleted a fucking thing.
The ol’ “marked as deleted” lol.
People should have deleted it as soon as their parents figured out how to make an account.
Haha! That’s what I did. When my aunt tried to friend request me on Facebook, I bailed.
I joined back in college when it was an invite only walled-garden of college kids. Zucks pic was still in the banner when I joined iirc. They hadn’t release “the wall” or much of what Facebook eventually became.
But when parents and coworkers started trying to friend request me I realized it was time to bail.
So 12 years ago? Maybe just 10.
I have never missed it at all.
It would be easier if they didn’t buy other products I already used. I hate that shit so much. I wish companies were all banned from buying other companies. A company should be one thing, not own all the things. It’s hard to choose who you do business with in our country because of this. Even if we all drop these apps today and move to something else they will try to buy that too.
I did
Yep, but the second best time would be now.
that’s when I dipped - graph api was scary powerful
That’s when I started refusing to use it. I only still have my account because my family refuses to call when shit happens now and only seem to announce it on facebook. So i check it every 6 months.
I beat it by a year or two. For me it was that every time I would log in, my cousin’s friend would say hi, and I’ve only talked to him like once at a family gathering he was at for some reason. I realized most of my Facebook use was deflecting that person instead of actually talking to friends. I looked into it and thought it was super creepy what Facebook was doing with my data, and realized I was getting nothing for all of that invasion of my privacy, so I bailed.
I had to create an account a few years later (probably around 2016) because I needed to work with some FB employees for a couple weeks, and then I deleted it after that contract.
Since then, I’ve avoided all Meta products.
I don’t care about Facebook, but Messenger and Marketplace I cannot replace them at all for the moment :-/
Instead of market place I use buy nothing, and offer up, and just give to my local goodwill.
There’s a buy nothing app. It’s a free community run organization for local things that started on Facebook then they made an app and website. It’s all give away stuff but I’ve gotten some really nice & expensive stuff off there and given a lot away too. It’s not as active as their Facebook buy nothing groups, but now maybe that will change. I refuse to use Facebook since I watched my mom turn into a crazy conspiracy trump shit person in 2020.
Ive even made friends with a few people through a few exchanges to them over time on buy nothing, like a nice old lady that I give fruit to from my garden and she makes jam out of it and gives me some back
We all know that in the end only maybe 1 or 2% max will delete their account
meh its no longer growing.
Exactly this. Wasn’t Netflix going to sink after everyone cancelled when password sharing was banned? But everyone I know just ended up buying extra logins…
That’s fine. 1% per uberweird news cycle is the death of facebook.
I’d delete mine, but I don’t have one for 10 years or smth.
According to Google Trends, related searches like “how to delete all photos facebook,” “alternative to facebook,” “how to quit facebook,” “how to delete threads account,” and “how to delete instagram account without logging in” have become breakout searches, with popularity suddenly increasing by over 5,000% compared to previous periods.
So that is 51 times higher than usual? Am I mathing that correctly?
I wish stories like this wouldn’t use percentages this way, and reported hard actual numbers to compare against.
So true… When I see 100% more, I interpret it as 2x. But somewhere around, idk, maybe 300% I interpret “300% more” as 3x. I know that’s technically not correct, but it’s just where my brain goes. I think a good deal of people just throw around “n% more” and “n% as often” interchangeably without much thought.
Luckily, the bigger the number the less of a difference between the two which is aligned with my brain using them the same.
(And obviously, if it’s anything technical where it matters I would get clarification.)
Yeah so if it was 100 queries per day before, its now 5100 per day. Or maybe we are both crazy.
And those are real users too. They are intching closer and close to just being a bot hellscape.
Yeah,
1 + (1*5000%) = 51Honestly I prefer just writing “51 times more frequent”.
that’s some glorious schadenfreude
zuck just few hours ago: “people who talk about leaving facebook are just virtue signalling”
i’m so tired of nothingburger feel good ‘stories’ about search trends
this really is just reddit lite
Eh, it goes harder in some of the bad things about Reddit, but it’s better in others. So it’s less “Reddit lite” and more discount Reddit.
Dropped Facebook completely in 2018 my mental health was much better for it
Meta did not end fact checking.
Meta switched to a system of community notes, which is superior at fact checking than a centralized team of fact checkers.
So community notes can address more instances of misinformation, that part is true.
But if the community provides misinformation as the “note” then it can actually spread and legitimize misinformation.
So superior is definitely the wrong word for it. Perhaps more efficient? But also more likely to reinforce echo chambers.
Superior would be implementing community notes and then having those checked by centralized fact checkers.
Thats the nifty part, for centralized fact-checkers we just use LLMs!
“fact”-checkers… This is probably a good prefilter, but definitely one of the few (or rather many) things that LLMs are pretty bad in…
I have no clue why anyone takes this seriously or is concerned about this. I have seen maybe three fact-checks during my lifetime on Facebook. That was a long long time ago. I disagreed with two of them and I am not sure if the third one said anything interesting.
Is there a population somewhere I am not aware of, who believes everything they see on Facebook, who will now be ruined by this change?
I dont think fact checking was the main reason, moreso that they decided to allow hate speech (e.g. They’re allowing targetted hate against LGBT groups).
Never seen FB disallow fake news or hate speech as long as it is coming from the (extreme) right.
Either they just stop pretending now or irl somehow get even worse?
They censored certain phrases and words, which they plan on no longer enforcing. I agree that they leave hate speech on the platform (reports rarely do anything) but the looser restrictions mean people can post even more hateful content and that paves the way for discrimatory ideologies
The anonymous fact-checking is the main thing PEOPLE took issue with. Like, oh I’m supposed to believe your anonymous fact-checkers know better than me or my trusted sources on what’s true/false, but you refuse to identify or provide the credentials of those fact-checkers, so their integrity and validity can be certified?
But it’s not the anonymous strangers arbitrarily sifting the wheat from the chaff willy nilly, and with no evidence to support their claims, that were the problem /s. , The problem was CLEARLY the people who took issue with an anonymous rando who has the power to declare a reputable source of info is lying, can not be disputed on that front (even in the many instances of them being wrong), and whose credentials can not be verified but is still supposed to be arbitrarily accepted as the supreme arbiter of reality and fiction.
Bought and paid for by a soulless corporation. I’ll take “extreme dought” for $500. I was more likely to believe in Santa Clause than an anonymous figure who had no credentials or checks and balances of any kind.
The usual suspects of Gen Boomer and X that first preached to not believe anything on the internet and yet doing exactly that without an external fact check.
Personally for stuff I don’t really care, I will always say “Allegedly (…)” before stating something a website says. If the stuff is important (to me or a peer) I might look harder into it.
