- cross-posted to:
- news@lemmy.world
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- news@lemmy.world
Fucking preformative liberals, instead of attacking the systems of exploitation that harm the community they virtue signal for they focus on the temporarily manufactured villains.
If you can’t have everything, you’d prefer nothing? Isn’t that the same logic that got us a second trump term?
What got us a second Trump term was the Dems acting like they are owed votes, instead of acting like they need to earn votes.
No the logic that got us a second trump term is “we can move as far to the right as we want, and as long as we’re second worst, people will have no choice but to vote for us.”
I mean, both of u are right
No again, what got Trump elected was a complacency that the population was at heart clear thinking and aware of the exploits of the world.
Democrat complacency in their politicians gave us trump, as much as Hillary Clinton did.
Incrementalists learn like they do anything else: they fucking don’t.
So… what?
In your ideal world nazi sites wouldn’t be blocked?
What are you even arguing here?
There is no world in which refusing to use a site run by a nazi is a bad thing.
I’m arguing liberals have the memory of a goldfish and will forget it the next time something else comes up. This is #resist 2.0, purely performative.
Got it, there’s no point in ever fighting them since we might not fight them at some unspecified point in the future, we should just all welcome and embrace Nazis. Thanks for letting us know how to move forward.
They are not fighting anything, if they were they would have fought it from the beginning instead of accepting small doses of fascism.
Got it, everyone just give up and walk willingly into the camps. Thanks for letting us know how to move forward.
We are currently living in Aldous Huxley’s Brave New World where even the mention of breaking free from the chains is met with resistance. Liberals would rather dose their Soma than allow meaningful change to happen.
Yes, we already established that you think everyone should give up and walk willingly into the camps. Where do we meet you?
Still better than nothing. I don’t see how complaining about a good thing gets us anywhere. And also it screams bad mental health. You ok, bro?
Who cares
I get it, why give him any attention. But this is not about him–it’s about the protest this time. That’s fine by me, let’s get people going!
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To be fair, Reddit bans everyone for everything now
Yeah that’ll show him. I’m sure he’s gonna lose a ton of sleep over the miniscule amount of traffic that’s going to drop for his shitty website that he bought and drove into the ground.
Wait actually he cares way too much about how people view him so it might actually bother him a ton. It’s hard to say really.
Either way stop using Twitter and reddit. Both terrible.
Nah, they’re not big on non-compliance. So consider an uprising. Spez wants to play with a big oligarchs, he won’t take a chance on pissing anyone off.
And block all their domains/IP ranges too. People really need to understand how third party tracking works.
What’s “X”? Is that p0rn or something?
Well it is run by a jerkoff.
Work in progress swastika.
Imagine you had a relationship that turned out toxic, and then you decided to protect yourself by severing it. Later, when you even hear about X, your heart is filled with negative emotions, and you realize you need to move on.
Yeah, fuck Reddit. They are part of the problem.
If this is what it took they were just lazy before. This has been CLEARLY where he is pushing things for a long time now. Twitter is in the Xhitter.
And so begins the stun lock. Genius move actually with adversaries so predictable
Here on Lemmy, people who claim to advocate for freedom of speech and information, demanding for information shared on social networks to be controlled, shutdown and people to be censored based on unknown and ambiguous criteria, without even understanding the implications of it.
Details at six
Look, I’m all for freedom of speech. I’m nearly as close to an absolutist as they come.
This is an example of a protest. Nobody is restricting anybody’s speech. They aren’t banning Musk-supporters. They aren’t censoring Trumpers. They are specifically banning links to a website owned by a billionaire who did a Nazi salute at an event where hundreds of millions if not billions of people would witness him.
100, I get more dislikes here than I ever did on Reddit.
Downvotes are not a form of censorship.
Also, that sounds like a you problem, not an “us” problem.
I know downvotes aren’t censorship. Not really, I saw the change happen in real time. I was on Twitter before it was run by Feds.
Weird tangent, but ok
Wat
He’s a nazi. There’s no space it civil society for nazis.
What does freedom of speech have to do with independent subreddits deciding they don’t want to serve content from a private company they don’t agree with?
It’s easy if they have no idea what “freedom of speech” actually means and what it actually allows. The phrase at face value is nothing like the constitutionally protected action. They are too ignorant to know that.
That’s easy, freedom of speech means you can say what I want but not what you want, and it applies everywhere including in my dreams. So if you say something I don’t like in my dreams I can criminally charge you and take you to hell in a cell.
Edit: Thought this would be obvious satire, but here we are. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Not to worry, you’re simply confusing freedom of speech with obliging private actors to consume content they don’t want to consume or disagree with. The first is a fundemental principle of democratic legal systems and recognized as a perempotry norm under international law. The second is authoritarianism.
There’s a growing number of legally illiterate people who think freedom of speech is absolute and even affords one the right to oblige others consume their speech through the government. That is fundamentally wrong and a complete misunderstanding of how these key principles of freedom work and have always worked in modern democratic systems.
Newsflash - freedom of speech is not absolute. Never has been. There are very specific, explicitly codified limitations. Why? Because words are the most powerful weapons and can be used to target and threaten the freedoms of other people, including their freedom to life. Which is why rights and obligations are always balanced against each other, following the principle of proportionality.
If you feel so strongly about not being able force others to consume content they don’t want to consume, then I have bad news for you - you are opposing democracy. But it seems like you, and many other like you, are just confused, rather than actively promoting anti-democratic standpoints. The truly sad part? The impact is the same regardless of intent.
Edit: Want to know more? Details at 6.
It’s so typical to see 90% good argument and 10% insult the OP & half the country. If believers stuck to the 90% good argument and left out the insults you’d win a lot of followers.
The sky is blue and I think OP is a moron. The second part doesn’t make the first untrue, it also doesn’t make it an ad hominem argument.
Half the voters(not country) are a bunch of gullible clowns and calling them out is just an observation.
I don’t want any followers or believers. Calling it as I see it. That is all.
Existence of mods goes against the concept of freedom of speech. People aren’t prevented from directly using Twitter themselves. They’d be on 4chan if they wanted something as close to an unfiltered internet.
We wouldn’t be on our respective instances that have blocked off entire instances and communities if we wanted to consume unfiltered internet content.
Beware of this festering pile of excrement that is the conservative subreddit. Ready your sanity and eye bleach before venturing in
Holy shit. I made the mistake of looking in there. What a festering pile of misinformed louts. There’s not a brain cell to be found in there.
Or, apparently, introspectiveness…
Liberals are just sheep. They believe whatever the media tells them. They think they don’t need to believe anything other than the media tells them. One of the things the media tells them is they are superior to others, and it gets into their heads.
Kettle meet pot?
Uhhhhhhhhh, gotta say, I’ve never once heard NPR tell me that we’re special or privilaged, or above the law. Or even should be.
Meanwhile our current president is a 34x convicted criminal and sexual predator.
…although to be fair, the democrats also had a sexual predator in the 60s (twice), and the 90s.
But I can’t recall any democrat running on the platform of “we’re better than them”.
Wait, Wait Don’t Tell Me would poke fun at their audience for being the type to sniff their own farts. I haven’t listened in a while, but I assume they still do.
You have just seen an Eldritch Abomination (-10 Sanity)
Good idea. We should do this here.
Would much prefer users and instance admins to have better filtering tools.
Assume a single instance should be able to do this no? If so, kind of sad that I don’t think any have that I am aware of.
/c/Playstation has, and lemmy.world has asked users if they should as a sticky.
Aaaand here come the admins to relentlessly bully any mods involved in this into submission. Because the reddit admins are pathetic, greedy little pig boys who don’t give a flying shit about their users or moderators.
Lemmy instances should follow suit.
De-centralized as long as you go with what I say…
Here we go. If let’s just say all the instances came together and did the same ban because some hivemind mentality had taken over. It would metaphorically be centralized again. The chances of that happening-probably zero.
You’re perfectly free to go on Lemmy instances that don’t have that as a rule.
How can you have been on Lemmy longer than me yet have such a fundamental misunderstanding of centralized/non-federated vs decentralized/federated?
I’m not sure you understand what decentralized means.
I’m surprised it hasn’t happened yet
Dbzer0 took a vote and will block it from their instance I believe
I just added it as a rule for the communities I moderate. I also set my Bluesky feeds to filter out X links.
I’ve thought that since they started locking almost everything behind a login
Disagree, but I also almost never follow them anyway. I pretty much only follow a link if I think it’s to a first party article or something.
They are still on reddit
To befair the only lemmy community I’ve seen thats blocked X is /c/Playstation.
So reddit still has 49 more than we do.
In fairness I don’t see a lot of Twitter links in general here with or without a ban. Most people use xcancel when they have to and have no other option.
IMO a ban here would be more symbolic than effective.
I think vegan did. Not sure if thats on .world though
https://lemmy.world/post/24565936
or !vegan@lemmy.worldEdit: I am still confused about linking, sorry.