Joe Rogan called out the "bullshit game" of accusing "everyone" of being a Nazi following Elon Musk being accused by critics of giving a Nazi salute.

Yeah! Just because a racist, fascist douchebag does a seig heil doesn’t mean you should tell obvious big mean old lies about him being a Nazi!

You tell those woke mind virus victims, Joe!

      • CMLVI@lemmy.world
        41·
        2 months ago

        No, but they’re donating money to the inauguration and hosting Rogan, Shapiro, and others podcasters to, by Spotify’s own word, “tout the power of podcasts in the election”. It seems awfully cozy behavior.

      • OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 months ago

        I know it’s fashionable to hate on Apple (justified or not), but Apple Music is very good. As a bonus, you can bundle it with Apple TV+, which have so many extremely good shows and movies.

      • Donjuanme@lemmy.world
        41·
        2 months ago

        YouTube premium has YouTube music, and it works well enough for me and my extended family

      • the_wise_wolf@feddit.org
        1·
        2 months ago

        Thanks for all the suggestions. I’ll have a look at them. Unfortunately none of them seem all that good. Spotify ist the only one that has a Linux app. Tide has a third party app, which is just the website inside electron. Even the Spotify app is just electron. I find it extremely shitty that these companies don’t even bother publishing electron apps. The ratings on the play store are also mostly bad. But I have to investigate that.

      • resin85@lemmy.caEnglish
        12·
        2 months ago

        I’ve tried a few of them, all with family plans:

        • Amazon Music: good track selection, awful apps. Horrid integration with Sonos.

        • YouTube Music: I was using this for quite a while, my kids hated it because of the way the miniplayer worked. I found it frustrating because it would often play a YouTube rip of a song instead of the album track.

        • Tidal: great choice, but I couldn’t get it to use gapless playback when casting to my receiver.

        • Apple Music: we’re currently all using this one. Everyone is happy (Android, Chromecast, Sonos, iPhones, iPads, Car Play, and Android Auto). Finally.

  • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
    512·
    2 months ago

    Joe Rogan is a meathead.

    Close your eyes and imagine a meathead.

    That’s Joe Rogan.

    Only a fool would listen to what Joe Rogan has to say because only fools listen to meatheads.

    Unfortunately, we live in an age where meatheads are idolized by millions of people. Because our educational systems have failed. Because many, if not most, humans were simply not ready for the internet.

    • Vent@lemm.ee
      42·
      2 months ago

      Key word is “watching”. They’re more than happy to have an audience as long as they get what they want. And they do and they are.

    • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      2 months ago

      Lot of extremely ignorant people out there.

      Our educational system is failing and many humans simply cannot handle the internet responsibly.

  • zib@lemmy.worldEnglish
    100·
    2 months ago

    I still can’t for the life of me figure out why anyone gives a shit about what Joe Rogan says. We need to stop giving monumentally stupid people such large platforms.

    • berno@lemmy.world
      1913·
      2 months ago

      He’s popular because of long-format, uncensored interviews with interesting people in en era of heavy media manipulation and short form propaganda. It’s not that hard to understand why he has a large audience. The amount of push back from people complaining about him “platforming” people they disagree with further adds to the appeal. People want free expression and exchange of ideas, not censorial hall monitors with holier-than-thou attitudes who think they know better than you.

      • MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
        91·
        2 months ago

        My problem is he uncritically accepts bullshit gecause he has no idea. When he was ypunger he was more willing to change.

      • DarkFuture@lemmy.worldEnglish
        26·
        2 months ago

        The problem is meathead Joe Rogan lets his guests tell cool stories about their experiences to gain an audience, then proceeds to express the stupidest fucking thoughts imaginable to all those people from the gaping anus that serves as his mouth.

        • berno@lemmy.world
          314·
          2 months ago

          He’s the first person to say not to listen to him. I don’t have an issue with people expressing their opinions even if they’re as mean as this; usually folks are nicer about it when it’s in person and not online.

      • paraphrand@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        2 months ago

        long-format, uncensored interviews with interesting people in en era of heavy media manipulation and short form propaganda.

        There seem to be lots of options for that these days. He’s not so unique anymore.

        But he built up such a large audience.

        I use to casually watch select episodes where the guest was someone cool or interesting. And the fringe topics could be fun.

        But now… bleh. It’s all too self aware and shot with bullshit now.

        • berno@lemmy.world
          25·
          2 months ago

          Sure that’s fair. There is a lot of bullshit from a lot of places these days. You’ve gotta be able to filter it for yourself. You don’t have to agree with every position someone has on every single political issue.

          • paraphrand@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 months ago

            That’s exactly what I use to do. I’ve never agreed with all his opinions. But it went from “we just have different perspectives” to “I can’t tolerate this nonsense, willful ignorance, etc, etc.”

            He really changed. He went from a lunkhead you could assume had his heart in the right place, even if he said dumb ignorant shit, to someone who’s spreading toxic ideologies that “other” people and sow broad and deep distrust in our institutions. — It’s beyond musing about conspiracy theories and talking about “they.” Now it’s active agenda laden conspiracy proselytization.

    • nandeEbisu@lemmy.world
      61·
      2 months ago

      Whether or not you or I care what he has to say doesn’t change that he has a huge audience of people who do care and if we just tune him out instead of rebutting his crazy shit he’ll go completely unchecked.

      • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
        63·
        2 months ago

        There’s an argument to be made that just engaging his bullshit gives it weight. Something about arguing with a pig just gets you pulled into the mud and the pig likes it or somesuch. (I know, I butchered that saying).

        I honestly prefer the angle of “Oh, you listen to Joe Rogan. Then clearly your opinion is of no consequence and I want nothing with you”.

        • Majorllama@lemmy.world
          76·
          2 months ago

          And people wonder how the Democrats lost in 2024.

          “Oh this person did one thing that isn’t permanent and they could possibly have their viewpoints changed if they were around people like me who disagree with them? Nah I’m going to tell them that because they listen to a podcast of a guy I hate that I think everything about them is wrong and then I will never speak to them again.”

          The only way to stop the young men and women from getting sucked down there pipeline into the alt right dude bro bullshit is to fucking talk to them like they are humans that can make mistakes. When you write them off entirely instantly without even a second thought you are robbing everyone involved of the potential for personal growth and understanding.

          • Soggy@lemmy.worldEnglish
            41·
            2 months ago

            “Bigotry is bad and you should feel bad.”

            “What, so people can’t make mistakes anymore? So much for the ‘tolerant left’.” And then they double down, because feeling bad is for liberal pussies.

          • berno@lemmy.world
            22·
            2 months ago

            Ironically, Marc Andreessen was on the JRE podcast and brought up that the new “woke” stuff essentially functions as a cult or neo-religion without a concept of forgiveness.

            • Majorllama@lemmy.world
              22·
              2 months ago

              The scariest part is they often either cannot see it or they can see it and they just don’t care how cultish it is.

              I hate the term “woke” because it’s wrapped up in so much pedantic bullshit now, but yeah.

            • HikingVet@lemmy.ca
              1·
              2 months ago

              The only people I hear talking about “woke nonsense” are white people who are upset that the world is changing.

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    2 months ago

    Yeah, remember when people would say that qons could be literally goosestepping for their orange dickhead (or someone else standing in for the same role they are so very thirsty to worship) and they’d still be gaslighting about it?

    The real president just threw Nazi salutes, and here we are…

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
      8·
      2 months ago

      It’s similar to their regular “you call everything racism” bullshit. They really do seem to believe that acknowledging what they are doing is unfair to them.

  • resin85@lemmy.caEnglish
    45·
    2 months ago

    I feel dumber just having read that. Apparently pointing out that someone made a Nazi salute is covering for the fact that … checks notes … you’re an asshole. The fact that this village idiot is popular is truly a damning indictment of America.

  • anarchyrabbit@lemmy.world
    12·
    2 months ago

    Joe does not rely on facts he relies on his talent to hold conversation and trap people to agreeing with his opinions. He spews the biggest bunch of horse shit. I am from Southern Africa, I listend to a podcast where he was talking about cheetahs. Yeah he had no idea and talking garbage about how cheetahs behave. That’s when my suspicions about him were verified and I was like fuck this guy. Don’t support this douche.

      • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world
        7·
        2 months ago

        So weird to see this guy now after watching him early in his career on news radio. Then watching fear factor from time to time.

        When I think of Rogan now I remember the day Howard Stern was kicked off of clear channel. I guess the only thing that really bothered Republicans was that Howard wasn’t on their side.