Saikat Chakrabarti, AOC's former chief of staff, thinks the Democrats need a bolder vision.
  • BigDiction@lemmy.world
    17·
    11 days ago

    Back when Pelosi was pushing the Affordable Care Act she came on KQED and railroaded the host, basically just ignored all the questions to deliver the party line. I was bruh this is your home base and acted like it was hostile territory.

    Pelosi has been a huge fundraiser and leader for the Democrats, but might as well live on planet Mars when it comes to understanding working class people, even in the Bay Area.

    We need a leadership vacuum in the Democratic Party to even hope of changing anything significantly.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      11 days ago

      Pelosi has been a huge fundraiser and leader for the Democrats

      One reason why Cori Bush and Jamal Bowman got the old heave-ho. Pelosi has been instrumental in bankrolling Congressfolk like Henry Cuellar and Richie Torries while undermining candidates like Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar. Her leadership has largely lead to the current moment in Democratic Party Politics, with a handful of insiders growing obscenely rich while the rank-and-file voters are told to suck eggs every time their favorite legislation fails.

      We need a leadership vacuum in the Democratic Party to even hope of changing anything significantly.

      The real leadership of the democratic party is within the donor class. Women like Nancy get to hold the gavel, but its the Gettys and the Buffets and the Thiels who ultimately hold the power.

  • Absaroka@lemmy.worldEnglish
    296·
    13 days ago

    Good.

    Much like the appeasers that enabled Hitler, history is going to look back on Pelosi, Schumer, Kamala, Biden, Obama, Clinton, Jefferies, and other democrats who stood by and let all this happen on their watch without so much as a wimper.

  • sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz
    543·
    13 days ago

    I don’t have much hope in the voters. Last time a great challenger came along, Shahid Buttar in 2020, they still elected the geriatric choice. The DNC and Dem voters are the fucking worst. I mean, as long as you pretend the racist, fascist, ignorant, magats on the other side of the aisle don’t exist.

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        2·
        12 days ago

        Oh they acknowledge that Republicans are fascist bigots all the time, they just keep trying to work with them. Always trying to compromise with them instead of voting against them.

      • sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz
        2·
        11 days ago

        I know that is true about incumbents, but I just don’t understand why. All a voter has to do is look at their voting record. We don’t need to listen to a fucking thing an incumbent says. Just look at the voting record. But voters can’t even be fucked to do that.

    • PowerCrazy@lemmy.mlEnglish
      12·
      12 days ago

      Shahid Buttar

      This dude fucking sucked. Like I’m glad pelosi got challenged, but he wasn’t the guy. I’m much more excited about Chakrabarti. Though that is mostly association with AoC and tabula rasa projection.

      • sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz
        2·
        11 days ago

        I was happy to see anyone challenging Pelosi. I agree Chakrabarti is a much better choice. Not my district, but I’ll cross my fingers that the voters do the right thing.

    • Tinidril@midwest.socialEnglish
      307·
      13 days ago

      You would think that the Democrat’s consistent record of utter failure would count for something, but I think it has the opposite effect. The worse things get, the more insecure people feel. Insecurity makes voters risk-averse. Republicans capitalize on that with calls for a return to an American that never really existed. Democrats capitalize on it by making Democratic voters scared of new leadership.

      I try to explain it with AIDS as an example. AIDS is a horrible disease, but it doesn’t kill you. It just sets you up to die from another opportunistic infection like pneumonia. The fascists are pneumonia, and the neoliberals are AIDS. It’s the fascism that kills you, but it’s the neoliberalism that was the underlying cause that should have been dealt with.

  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1391·
    13 days ago

    GOOD.

    Pelosi has been in congress for 36 years. To put this in perspective, that’s longer than I’ve been voting. Time to retire.

  • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.worldEnglish
    111·
    13 days ago

    She’s gonna be like an athlete that plays until it’s sad for multiple years.

    The exception that rule is someone like Ricky Henderson who just really openly and unselfishly liked playing baseball and played in the minor leagues for fun. He just kept playing baseball until he was 46: https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=hender003ric

    I respect that. It was like weekend slow pitch for him.

    • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
      8·
      13 days ago

      She’s gonna be like an athlete that plays until it’s sad for multiple years.

      She’s already that.

    • kerrigan778@lemmy.world
      184·
      12 days ago

      You think too much of CA. CA is INCREDIBLY liberal, so much of CA loves her and worships the memory of Dianne Feinstein.

      • InvictusUmbra1824@lemm.ee
        181·
        12 days ago

        Trump got 38% of California to vote for him last year. We are nowhere close to “incredibly liberal”. Also I hate Pelosi.

          • kerrigan778@lemmy.world
            31·
            12 days ago

            Pelosi has been a massive driving force in keeping the DNC from getting younger or less neo liberal. She has blocked committee assignments at every turn for more left leaning and younger congresspeople, most famously AOC. She is the head of the Democrat side of the absurdly corrupt insider trading gerentocracy of a Congress we have had for decades. The self enrichment is absolutely disgraceful, paying lip service to left wing causes while actively preventing meaningful left wing movement to take hold in the party and country. She and McConnell are two very effective leaders on either side of the same grifter coin perpetuating American neo liberal imperialism at the expense of the working class worldwide.

            • seejur@lemmy.worldEnglish
              12·
              11 days ago

              You know when MAGA talked about draining the swamp during elections? Probably the one time the broken clock was right. Pelosi was a huge contribution to the orange men first term. Insider trading, status quo, eroding workers right while sugarcoating it with social issues etc

        • kerrigan778@lemmy.world
          12·
          12 days ago

          Undereducated people who can’t stand the cognitive dissonance of the liberal control of CA, paying lip service to issues that actually affect the working class while enriching the elites, restricting freedom and protecting the stability of the status quo above all.

          • Prehensile_cloaca @lemm.eeEnglish
            2·
            12 days ago

            Yep, this is nail on the head.

            Also, a lot of the monied interests are tied to very old people. They’re massively out of touch with the world of now, and still think reality is 1998. They’re geriatric Matrixers.

        • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1·
          11 days ago

          That is liberal honestly. Punishment of any crime means you are now an indentured servant of the state.

          And we have homeless basically illegalized as rent goes up, so the forces who put out our fires are the ones who lived in those areas when rent was lower.

  • Maggoty@lemmy.world
    19·
    12 days ago

    That’s not surprising. The left has been looking for someone capable of primarying her for years.

  • moakley@lemmy.worldEnglish
    33·
    13 days ago

    Surprising New Primary Challenger

    That’s not that surprising. I was hoping it was like a golden retriever or something.