I wish it was only republican women losing their rights.
How ironic, that dehumanizing rhetoric is exactly how we got here.
Dehumanizing? I am just saying they should get what they asked for. But here the thing: being a minority isn’t a choice, being gay isn’t a choice. Being a republican is. But if that is dehumanizing then so be it. They can join humanity again whenever they want.
really… yeah, let’s shed a tear for the poor republican women, waving “Mass Deportation Now” signs. They didn’t seem to care about dehumanization so much then. Now they are the ones being dehumanized, hopefully they’ll remember how that feels come mid-terms.
Stooping to their level doesn’t make us better than them.
Try to understand that most of them don’t know any better and are just trying to look good in front of their peers who also do not know any better.
Look, I try. Most of the time. I’m trying to be empathetic and nice and inclusive. But sometimes I wonder while fully grown adults can’t use Google. Why they would believe the most obvious lies (“they’re eating the dogs” is a great example - an absurd lie that was debunked 100x by every outlet within days). Again these are fully grown adults who choose to be hateful, angry and wilfully ignorant. In fact they revel in that ignorance. Warnings are “alarmist”, factchecks are “biased”, opponents are “traitors”. These are fully grown adults that would trade the price of eggs for suffering of thousands of “illegals” and they entrust this trade to Donald Trump, a man who in his life has never taken a shot into a toilet that wasn’t made out of gold. Like yeah, sure, THAT guy is gonna care about the poor.
My point is, we’re all adults, we all make our choices as best we can. But if you keep making the same terrible choices and yell at anyone who tries to tell you they are bad choices, well… You deserve what’s coming to you, because you’ve unleashed that on all of us.
I mean, a major problem in society is that two incomes are required to pay off a mortgage - and making one member of that equation unable to work society wide would solve that, leading to mortgages and hence housing price calibration (calibrating it to a single wage income)…
…but I was kind of hoping that wouldn’t be a product of gender segregation. Also this seems like it’s going to affect a lot of other things and people women’s autonomy and hence freedom and safety in jeopardy.
No Bueno.
A better calibration would be a three day week so one person could work and one person could do household stuff on any particular day and you still have a day to enjoy together.
Sad to see that people thing this is the working class fault and not the rich class fault. Just like everything from recycling plastic global warming, and child marriage
Realistically, the loss of women’s income would lead to a housing crisis as millions of families are unable to pay their mortgage, but it’s naive to think housing prices will plummet. Plenty of vulture capital firms and the like will happily scoop those houses up to rent back to us in perpetuity.
No, I’m saying it would calibrate housing prices as mortgages failed… Ao it would be a long term solution not some patch up job.
In a world where only men can work mortgages would be calibrate to singilar male incomes.
Except the amount they’d need to rent them for just to break even would still be just about as high as the mortgage payment would have been, so they’re gonna lose out there, too.
Even then, they still own the housing stock as assets, which they can hold indefinitely. Their financial backing and ability to weather financial storms is much higher than the average American family. The goal is to remove ownership from the lower classes and ensure the plebs can only rent. It’s more about control than anything.
I think it’s adorable that people believe that the capitalists would do away with female labor instead of going back to the good old days of just devaluing it. The myth that women didn’t work outside the home is a fiction. Only the upper classes could afford such a luxury. Poor woman always had to work, often for much less pay.
Poor woman always had to work, often for much less pay.
Exactly. Women always worked - they were just segregated into lower paying jobs and had less rights (pregnant? no more job for you! and since you’re desperate, enjoy the shitty working conditions).
There will always be poor single mothers that have to work to support their family. They just won’t have labor protections.
I’ve fought tooth and nail against accepting this, but looking at their plans it’s becoming unavoidable: This will not end without violence.
Nice, maybe this is the extra little push for some turncoats in congress.
Ok so
As a single WASP (ok well, I grew up protestant) male in my 30s, who has the confidence of an abandoned kitten, how exactly does this benefit me?
Like I feel like this is supposed to be about men like me getting more power over women. But I fail to see how that helps me at all.
All I can see is that they start here, remove voting rights next, then they remove the ability for women to be licensed to be doctors, or lawyers, dentists, etc. That’s gonna fuck my life up immensely.
Just so women can’t have a say? Why?
Conservative views on women are absolutely confusing. I know we have to abandon logic with them, but maybe that’s the part I don’t understand: how the fuck do I think without logic?
It benefits you, because with almost half the population removed from the paid labor pool, you are more likely to earn more, and get jobs you likely would not have gotten before.
They are fine with women being doctors and dentists. They won’t have any respect for those professions if they are female dominated, but they are caring roles so they fit into the fundie worldview. Lawyers might make them uncomfortable. They would be fine with women as paralegals, but they would want a man in the courtroom and the boardroom.
None of them should be paid well enough to live truly independently. Can’t have women building wealth outside of marriage. It’s a process really. Give them a couple generations in power and they might clamp down on employment outside the kitchen or the nursery.
Conservatives believe hierarchies are natural and unavoidable. If you can push someone else down on the hierarchy then that will put you higher up on the hierarchy then you were before. Shrinking someone else’s piece of the pie leaves more pie available for you.
Leftists believe in making a bigger pie.
Also sharing the pie equitably
It’s not about what’s good for you, it’s about what’s good for the people in power. And as women increasingly turn away from the Republican party, they’re going to want to disenfranchise them.
Do remember that it’s only some men that will get that power, not all men. WASP is just the start of the verification process for you. The lie that men like you will get this power is what gets regular joes to buy in without realizing they’ll never see those promises materialize.
I’ve worked enough retail to know that there are plenty of people out there who will gladly jump at the opportunity to be a petty tyrant themselves.
I actually think it’s more targeted toward the Andrew Tate and Fresh and Fit follower types, and the propaganda does appear to be working on younger men, who are rapidly becoming more “conservative.” They’re extremely insecure in their masculinity, and think the subservience of women would be affirming.
Of course, it actually just hurts everyone, barring the people that benefit from keeping the working class divided.
That’s the thing: it isn’t. The patriarchy is bad for 95% of men, as well, but a huge chunk of those believe it’s good for them because at least they’re not a woman.
There is some phrase involving (symbolic) intercourse and uncovering knowledge describing the sequence of events rather well. What was it again? Have sex and be enlightened? 🤔
Fornicate and figure it out.
Can’t wait to see all the videos of right-wing women surprised: “What?!! No one told us he was going to do this! We thought when he said he hated women he was only trolling/owning the libs/joking around!”
Christian right woman will support this. “He’s right, I’m not fully capable.”
It’s weird having a branch of my family that has these values and family structure. They’d probably support the idea of the male head of a family having the only vote. And yet, they clearly don’t agree that men should be able to beat their wives, because it happened to one of their daughters and they quickly helped her leave her abusive husband. Good people with very backwards ideas.
When are they going to start coming for the black folks so we can watch Clarence Thomas squirm?
You mean so we can watch him vote yes on it?
Maybe he’ll get fired for being a DEI justice. I honestly don’t want whatever would replace him tho.
Once they run out of other others.
For the believers, I think that tmany would be fine with this. It reinforces their preferred structure of a patriarchy in which they have a well-defined place and role (head of the domestic household, subservient to the man). No worries about having to deal with a fickle job market or figuring out what you want to do with your life. Your life path is set (get married, raise kids, take care of family), and, for some, that well-defined role the status that it conveys is really comforting. It provides a sense of security.
It’s why, I expect, while there are many who fight it, there are plenty of women in Muslim societies who are fine with things as they are. We emphasize with those women who chafe at that and fight it since we’ve history valued the individual rights of self-determination and freedom, of course.
Thats a big allure of the American taliban to some folks. It provides structure and defined roles in a chaotic world.
Of course, republican men like it for the power, but more importantly, that women voters mostly vote against them. Stopping women from voting would cement them in power.
If you gloss over the fact that it could be FUCKING VOLUNTARY instead of hate crime. your point is valid for anyone that loves to be forced to do things they don’t believe in
I’m not arguing for it, I agree that it’s fine if it’s a free choice. I don’t think personally that it’s a good one, though.
My point is that many of the women pushing this on the republican side view all of this, including their own loss of rights, as a positive likely. It’s not like a “leopards eating faces” or “voting against their interests” situation where they might be reachable.
But they are. As soon as they don’t want what they vote to force. It doesn’t matter what specific type of faschism or what rights they are removing, if they are removing rights they don’t need they are still being eaten by leopards once they fall down the other side, accidental or not
lol
It is almost like MAGA is sexist.
They seem to like terrible isms.
Wow, leopards are going to get chonky at this rate.
Incels are finally having their moment. Next they will propose laws requiring hot girls to date them.
Not date them, breed ala handmaids tale
Incels aren’t getting shit out of this, this benefits rightwing patriarchs who have abused wives at home.
Incels are alone in a basement or some shit dreaming about being the rightwing patriarch but the rightwing patriarch doesn’t likely feel anything but disgust for the incel. They’d purge the incel in a heartbeat if they could.
No they wouldn’t. That’s their voter base
Note the “if they could”
It’s more about doing everything they can to increase white birthrates. This us very much to secure white identity and majority.
Replacement theory in effect
The government mandated girlfriend will finally come true for Incels.
Fucking hilarious. Serves them right.
