I don’t want a PLAY MUTE PAUSE not even a CLOSE button. Especially NOT when they have their own internal state for then they choose to appear and disappear.

I don’t want to pay attention to them, I don’t want to have to look for them, I don’t want them getting in my way any more.

If I want to close a tab, I middle click it ! I already have global mute controls, I don’t need an extra volume control, I don’t have “tabs making unwanted sounds” problem because I have “Go To Sound Tab” addon installed, so I can easily find any tabs that makes sound and mute it correctly, without a extra, unneeded layer of muting (tab muting, versus app muting versus player muting, that is too many muting options, I don’t want to use tab muting personnally so I want these buttons out of here !)

I don’t want to have to rely on running violentmonkey script engine on top of my already sluggish browser when I barely have 6615 open tabs.

I want to disable the feature at the root, inside firefox, not patch up webpages like dark reader does.

AAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh h!!!

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    And I don’t want to have to install an addon just so that I can find and mute/close some random tab that’s playing unwanted sounds.

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    Maybe unrelated but consider vertical tabs, with Sidebery. It’ll let you you scroll through tabs easier and you won’t lose much space for titles due to tabs amount.

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      I can’t get the hang of vertical tabs, it’s just refusing to enter my muscle memory.
      For serious tab management I have this button

      And it opens my specially configured Tab Manager Plus, a full page tab manager, which has just, sooo many great feature, including search-as-type and a solid selection system. But for tab switching it’s still the tab bar for me.

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    Firefox is meant to be usable by people that have no idea what a middle click or an addon is. You are the exception, not the majority

    Menu > Help > More troubleshooting information > Profile Folder > Open Folder

    Edit your userChrome.css file:

    .tab-close-button.close-icon {display:none !important;}
    .tab-audio-button {display: none !important;} 
    
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      There should be a simpler solution to this tbf. Plasma had the exact same thing going on with their mute-app-buttons and their solution was a toggle for people who tend to missclick. I believe Chromium has one as well, at least Brave does for sure

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      How are people who don’t even know their scroll wheel is also a button supposed to figure out something that complicated ?

      Why isn’t that just a checkbox on the settings page ?
      [X] Please make browser tabs harder to use by putting more buttons on it !

      Why is that imagined to be a “complicated weird thing people don’t know they’d even want to do”
      I wish software was more respectful of users’ abilities instead of treating everyone has grandma’s tech literacy level and make decisions for them !

      There was no userChrome.css btw
      So I made the file and put that code in
      There has been no effects so I will have to reboot the browser.
      So I’m pressing “reply” now so I don’t lose this message …


      After restart

      It only worked partially
      I suspect youtube will eventually change something, and the rest of it will come back too

      Thanks for trying though, but -> Firefox, this ISN’T good enough !

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        You turned what I said on its head. Nobody unskilled is doing this, and the buttons are there exactly because most people want them there and know nothing else. Including me, that knows about the shortcuts, prefer going caveman and click buttons on a screen. You are overestimating the base tech literacy of most humans, as most people have absolutely zero idea how to reach the settings page.

        Try this one instead for the X button, before the audio button rule:

        .tabbrowser-tab  .tab-close-button { display:none !important; }
        
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          Well, I’m accidentally closing and muting tabs all the time !
          You’re saying “everyone wants this” who wants to have no idea why the sound isn’t playing for half an hour ?
          I think it’s reasonable that such sharp edges should be dealt with.
          But everywhere on the internet where someone complains about this is told “just do some registry hack wizardry” and it never gets solved !

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            Chrome has even more tech illiterate users and has the same feature and mute button, yet not as many users complain about accidentally muting tabs. I especially “love” the Reddit Firefox community that is in a constant biblical meltdown and always claims super small things will make everyone move to Chrome when it does the exact same thing too.

            And especially because you know how to use that feature it takes one second to unmute it. I really think you are exaggerating.

            Closing tabs is indeed more annoying, but you can reach it again using Recently Closed Tabs. Or Ctrl+Shift+T to restore the tab you just closed. If the page has unsaved content you even get asked before leaving.

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              I am not exaggerating, this REALLY is ducking pissing me off.

              It should not be this hard to remove this usability nightmare.
              Sure, whatever, some people want them, I’m not trying to take away your first amendment rights to tab buttons but I don’t want them and there are at least 5 other people who REALLY don’t want them.

              And we will get together and make five more firefox forks if we have to ! This is ridiculous !

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        And they are back despite the fix

        They’re intermittently there because the script is a patch but the underlying functionality has not been disabled.
        Sometimes the page will override the script patch, and put unwanted buttons of my tabs,
        so I end up closing and muting tabs by accident

        EDIT: Also doesn’t work because when a tab is open, userchrome.css does not apply until you actually click on the tab
        result

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        I wish software was more respectful of users’ abilities instead of treating everyone has grandma’s tech literacy level and make decisions for them!

        allow me to introduce you to my co-workers that manage the state power grid, who sit in front of a computer for eight hours a day, never knowing what a keyboard shortcut is, or that pressing ‘shift+tab’ can move your text cursor to the previous field, or, indeed, that the mouse wheel is also a button…

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          Well bless them, I’m sure they’re really good a hand calculating the number of turns transformer need to have when they place an order

          Most computer user that I meet also does not know what a middle click is or what it is for or why you would want to do that.
          As such we should not design computers based on what they think they need
          and interpret that this means “they don’t want an option to remove extra tab buttons”