I feel like three days isn’t enough time to die from the absence of wine, but then again I’m not French.
It’s just funny the way the headline is written. I’m assuming they meant more along the lines of “survives 3 days while drinking wine” not “survives 3 days by drinking wine” lol because unless you are starting out extremely dehydrated already, then a 3-day dry fast is absolutely not going to kill you.
Three to four days is the longest you can survive without water before you die. So he probably would have been dead or close to death without the wine.
“For the 13 per cent alcohol content of most wines, that equilibrium point would still leave you badly dehydrated (not to mention hopelessly drunk), but it should prevent you from dying of thirst”
Very similar situation to the news story we’re commenting on.
Oh, thanks for that, I read different but here’s the key thing that I think was missing from the analysis I read:
But the concentration of alcohol required for this increases as you get thirstier. If you just drank wine on your desert island, you would initially lose more water than you gain from wine, but as your body became more dehydrated, it would produce more ADH to compensate and you’d eventually reach an equilibrium point.
Well yeah, 10 minutes without water can definitely be lethal under the right circumstances too if you are already only 10 minutes away from dying from dehydration. I’m just saying that lying mostly still in a sunless ravine in autumn in France for 72 hours, while it’s raining, is not peak conditions for quick death from dehydration. And in any case, all I’m really saying is that claiming the guy survived by drinking the wine, meaning he would have otherwise died from dehydration, is not a supoortable conclusion and is just there to make the headline more fun.
He wasn’t in the Rockies. It was France in October. The issue would have been to stay warm so I don’t imagine dehydration was seriously an issue obviously it would have become eventually but not after 3 days.
Rule of 3s. 3 minutes without air, 3 hours without shelter in inclement weather, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food. So it definitely is a concern.
I feel like three days isn’t enough time to die from the absence of wine, but then again I’m not French.
It’s just funny the way the headline is written. I’m assuming they meant more along the lines of “survives 3 days while drinking wine” not “survives 3 days by drinking wine” lol because unless you are starting out extremely dehydrated already, then a 3-day dry fast is absolutely not going to kill you.
Three to four days is the longest you can survive without water before you die. So he probably would have been dead or close to death without the wine.
Wine will dehydrate you faster because alcohol is a diuretic.
Wine will hydrate you.
Well you’re wrong, alcohol is a diuretic and a typical wine contains enough alcohol that you will lose water by drinking it.
BBC science News today says it will hydrate you enough to keep you alive. The guy in the news story stayed alive too.
https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/on-a-desert-island-would-it-be-better-to-drink-wine-or-go-thirsty
You’re not wrong, but also common knowledge is you can survive 3 days without water.
The threshold for dehydration is about 2% alcohol, so no it won’t
Wine would provide enough hydration to prevent you from dying of thirst.
Source On a desert island, would it be better to drink wine or go thirsty? - BBC Science Focus Magazine https://www.sciencefocus.com/the-human-body/on-a-desert-island-would-it-be-better-to-drink-wine-or-go-thirsty
“For the 13 per cent alcohol content of most wines, that equilibrium point would still leave you badly dehydrated (not to mention hopelessly drunk), but it should prevent you from dying of thirst”
Very similar situation to the news story we’re commenting on.
Oh, thanks for that, I read different but here’s the key thing that I think was missing from the analysis I read:
??? 3 days without water can definitely be lethal
Well yeah, 10 minutes without water can definitely be lethal under the right circumstances too if you are already only 10 minutes away from dying from dehydration. I’m just saying that lying mostly still in a sunless ravine in autumn in France for 72 hours, while it’s raining, is not peak conditions for quick death from dehydration. And in any case, all I’m really saying is that claiming the guy survived by drinking the wine, meaning he would have otherwise died from dehydration, is not a supoortable conclusion and is just there to make the headline more fun.
He wasn’t in the Rockies. It was France in October. The issue would have been to stay warm so I don’t imagine dehydration was seriously an issue obviously it would have become eventually but not after 3 days.
Rule of 3s. 3 minutes without air, 3 hours without shelter in inclement weather, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food. So it definitely is a concern.