It’s not just about the trade war. Nearly half of America’s neighbors to the north now think the U.S. is a bigger threat to world peace than Russia.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/60675401
Archive article: https://archive.is/FmFAC#selection-647.1-647.51
Honestly… all the USA “peacekeeping” was always by protecting their interests in oil.
Canada only liked the USA cuz they gave us a free pass for being their evil little sidekick.
Ah yes, the oil rich countries of Afghanistan and Vietnam.
US citizen here … the US is in fact a bigger threat than Russia. Our oligarchs are out of control and in dire need of a guillotine. Beware … seriously … beware. These people are fucking crazy.
It’s not just who’s in power. It’s who put them in power and who decided not to even vote cuz they apathetically thought it’s not their job to give a shit about life apparently and prefer to watch the world burn.
These asshats are on a new level of crazy I’m ashamed to know exists in humanity.
Nothing has actually changed between the people of the two nations, but Trump instinctively knows that he can divide people by creating conflict so he succeeded in getting America’s stupid masses and Canada’s stupid masses to start playing his tribalism games.
And ya’ll on both sides of the fence are playing into the game willingly because you both feel righteous and better than the other.
I think Canadians are actually pretty decent at distinguishing the government and the people, because of the cultural closeness.
Kind of like how Zelensky probably still speaks Russian at home.
There’s a lot of hate I see even here on Lemmy, with the sentiment of “You stupid Americans are getting what you voted for” kind of blanket aspersions. I’m fully aware that most of them are shills or astroturfers trying to incite back-and-forth anger, but it seems to work very easily and ends up in a lot of “no YOU!” arguments across social media.
Yeah, it does happen, although even online I think it’s less common than supportive comments.
Canada was largely populated by waves of Americans escaping whatever previous thing. With any luck it will be a destination for the good Americans to escape to soon enough.
There’s no division: I also think the USA is currently a threat to world peace.
Yah me too but I’m talking about the social discourse between people, towards people, not governments. There is a hateful sentiment spreading and if you haven’t seen it yet, you will. It’s just ramping up and it’s all by design.
It’s because, as a culture, the place is chockablock full of highly dangerous morons that are totally out of control.
The country is led by a pedophile rapist murder. That’s who they chose to rule them because they are that fucking stupid and crazy.
And sure half of them are like “Oh what can we do? Nothing apparently, especially when you CANT ALLOW YOURSELF TO ACCEPT THAT ITS YOUR MESS TO FIX.
Fucking get your shit together
And the “bOtH SidEs ArE tHe SaMe” crowd can take a proper punch to the head too right about now. In fact they are long over fucking due.
I mean, i get the argument that they are both beholden to the same billionaires.
But yeah only one of them would happily kill civilians for cash.
As an American, I hate America even more.
Canadian here. We find you annoying. Daily, multiple times a day, we’re just slammed in the face with your bullshit. “What Trump is doing is illegal” or “Democrat Sen. says what Trump has done today is illegal” and then…fuck all is done about it. Meanwhile we wake up this morning to see former Prince Andrew has been arrested and we kind of just throw our hands up like “ok…now your turn”
Again, another example FROM TODAY, Trump has taken 10bil from the US and put it into his “Board of Peace” essentially controlling his own personal slush fund. Right on queue Democrat Senators and Reps are saying “that’s illegal!” ok…you going to do something about it THIS time? I’m still waiting on Ro Khanna to “draft up” those charges against Pam Bondi that he said he was going to do last December.
It’s all talk and very little, if any, action from your leaders and it’s annoying. And ALL of them are complicit in this including your favourites be it Bernie Sanders or AOC or Crockett. They all make sure they get a good sound bite or twitter post in and then…nothing, no follow through. another couple reps list off names from the files and then…nadda. One just straight up came out and said “Trump raped kids” soooooo where’s that impeachment? arrest? no? nothing?
And the infuriating thing is your Republicans NOW know they can get away with it. Again look at how Bondi behaved. many Americans on here and on reddit were saying “she’s acting that way cause she’s scared” no she wasn’t. she’s was acting that way cause she knew she could get away with it.
And to TOP it all off you still have your fellow americans posting daily things like “I think we’re the baddies now” or “we’re starting to become fascist” or “I don’t like America either”. You just don’t get it. You still have yet to accept the fact that you currently ARE a fascist country. you ARE the Nazi’s. you ARE the enemy. Even this post “Hey guys look how much Canada doesn’t like us NOW” now? NOW!? newsflash, we haven’t liked you for a good long while. We’ve TOLERATED you. We’ve rolled our eyes at you for decades. Even the insulting posts people made of “We’re sorry Canada”. no, stop. That’s like saying you chose to make a sandwich out of turds and puke instead of ham and cheese and then you gave the sandwich to the world and after we took a bite you said “oh, my bad, I shouldn’t have done that huh?” It’s like NONE of you get it until WELL after the fact and in many cases a lot of you STILL don’t get it.
We don’t want to hear your apologies anymore, we just want you to accept the fact that you’re Nazi’s, you’re the bad guys and MAYBE you’re going to consider fixing the mess you made. But as a Canadian who has had the unfortunate “pleasure” of living above you I know you’re not going to. I know you might fix the current problem but a few years down the line we’ll be right back at it again. I’ve lived through your Reagan and Bush years (multiple) you keep ramping up the worst you can be and I’m more scared of the person you elect AFTER Trump.
No, we don’t like you, and many of us never have.
Europe here.
Just want to fully underline that. Many many here think the very same.
I’ve been saying for a long time, it’s like watching a crook invade a bunch of houses, steal everything, shoot people, and set fire to the houses while the police just stand there and confirm that this is illegal
The GOP and the DNC are the sword and shield of the wealthy elites respectively.
If Americans want meaningful change they need to primary 3/4 of politicians by 2028 and maintain a solid 25% turnover every 4 years to prevent stagnation.
100% agree, the Americans reading this will be like “oh it’s not me” and in the same breath say “'murica” about any random event the US is involved in.
I wish I could double up vote this.
I’m also annoyed about all the time we spent listening to them go on about how ‘free’ they were.
Yep. And we in Germany are just: well, what he said.
But also. You were so blinded from your world best country that you didn’t and still don’t see what’s coming, otherwise there would long be riots already.
You think the senators and congressmen do little, waitnunyil you find out what percentage of the public are actually doing anything meaningful.
We fucking know.
Well said
The Democrats are the minority party. They have little power to do anything other than write strongly worded letters.
The constant attacks on the political opposition to fascism is something the fascists want.
Really how are the Democrats any different from the Liberal Party of Canada? They’re both equally lame, both have problems with corruption, both have sleazeballs in them. The Democrats are a political party, it’s weird people think they’re going to put on a bandolier and a beret and become guerilla resistance fighters or whatever they’re imagining things will be like.
But Americans are narcissists that believe themselves to be exceptional so they think the Democrats being kinda lame dorks is different from parties in other countries.
The problem is when Americans were given a choice between a fascist and a pretty normal political party, 2/3 of them either voted for the fascists or just didn’t bother to vote at all. The American people just didn’t care enough about democracy. It’s likely too late to be expecting the democrats to fix things because they can’t… not enough Americans voted for them.
Americans are narcissists and they’ll blame anyone other than themselves for everything. Which is why they attack the Democrats instead of doing the obvious thing and attack the GOP and organize resistance to them. But that might include voting for the political opposition which would mean voting democrat which might be admitting they were wrong for not voting for them in the last election. And a narcissist can never admit they’re wrong.
So the current state of things is Americans are blaming the party that’s not in power for not stopping the party that is in power because their narcissism prevents them from admitting they made a mistake. Will Americans get over their narcissism before the next election and vote for the opposition because their government sucks? That’s what would happen in a nromal country, but they’re obsessed with being exceptional. Will there even be an election? Or will they somehow find a way to blame democrats for Trump cancelling elections, ending any kind of opposition to his power and completing their journey to becoming a full ledged fascist country?
The Democrats are the same party. The billionaire party just comes in two flavors.
Wake the fuck up.
Funny. Didnt have the dems throwing ukraine under the bus, making a land grab in gaza or starting a war with iran on my bingo card…
Pleas tell me how they saved Ukraine. Or how they’ve stopped the Israel genocide.
Oh wait… Yes, inaction makes you an accomplice.
I think Americans also hate America this much.
They must, a non-zero number of them voted for a despot to destroy the country three times.
I know your username is a reference to something, but I can’t remember what. I tried googling it and all that comes up is posts by you. Am I going crazy or is it actually a reference?
In the podcast and television show Comedy Bang! Bang! there is a running joke that host Scott Aukerman is always misnamed. The names are things like Yacht Rockerman, Hot Saucerman, Shock Jockerman, Stop Clockerman, Shop Talkerman, Flip Flopperman, and so on. They generally rhyme with “Scott Aukerman.”
Snot Flickerman is definitely inspired by the Aukerman nicknames, although it doesn’t perfectly fit since Flickerman doesn’t rhyme with Aukerman. Also, in my own headcanon, Snot Flickerman is an audacious television news anchor voiced by Tom Kenny.
I hope this illuminates my stupid fucking username.
Hey I’ll use this comment; I totally wondered if it was a reference to CBB but there wasn’t really a chance to ask without derailing
It’s close enough to the gag that I caught it. You did well
Oh of course! Thank you so much. I remember now seeing this around the time it came out, but haven’t checked in on CBB in forever
Do they hate it enough to do something about the orange child rapist and the enablers that are causing all this?
Do I want to die? No.
Best I can do is wish them death and in the meantime voice my disapproval in peaceful protests and repeatedly demanding more of my representation AND fellow constituents when it comes to enforcing laws.
I’m going to make a super snarky meme, that will teach him
As an American, I can confirm this.
Can’t even blame you. Even if we suddenly fixed our crack head behavior one day then what? Are there still cultural forces that will lead us to just start stealing the wires out of the world’s walls in 4 years? How long until until “somehow crackheads returned”?
It wasn’t supposed to be like this. We were raised to be different from the dumb shit that came before
I’m a US Citizen and I also currently think the US is a bigger threat to world peace than. (Sorry Ukraine!)
Please try to avoid politico. It belongs to the right-wing conservative Springer publishing house (Axel Springer SE), which is trying to become a European Fox News.
Relevant daily:
Elbows up, Canada. I’m so happy to see the Neighbors to the North take little shit from the Bully Cowards to the South.
Canadians can do a lot better.
Until I see bigger lineups at A&W (A&W Canada is actually 100% Canadian, no royalties or anything to the USA) than McDonalds, Burger King, etc, not even close to being a start on the way to good enough.
I can see lots of people checking labels, but we need to get back to “US apples rotting on Canadian shelves” levels of action again. I want to hear more about US businesses begging Canadians to come back. I want to hear Trump threatening Canada for being anti-America. I want it to be crystal clear where Canada stood.
The good news is, some airlines are canceling flights to the Untied States due to lack of demand
You’re not seeing as much US produce rotting because less places are buying it now. Last winter we were still dealing with having to not choose US oranges, but this winter the grocers have found alternatives. I’ve had plenty of South African oranges and cantaloupe this winter.
That’s fair I’ve seen a lot more non-US produce lately. But there is still a fuck-ton of it on the shelves. Apples and lettuce being two big offenders where I am. And…yams? Been dying for a goddamn yam for months but apparently only the US knows how to grow a damn yam.
There are great Canadian greenhouse lettuce growers putting out awesome product now. I hope we can see those guys selling out while the $4.99 head of lettuce from Ameristan turns brown waiting for a buyer that never comes.
Choices matter people. Every single one.
A&W has better food than other fast food joints, and this has been the case for years. If my family eats fast food it is always the teen burger.
I highly recommend Guard the Leaf on YouTube (yes I know).
He features what you’re looking for all the time.
Thanks for the tip!
I don’t get “elbows up”?
In hockey you keep your elbows up to guard against getting knocked around when the game gets rough.
Ah, makes sense. Thank you.
Wakie-wakie, or how it is properly written
American here.
Me too.
As a US citizen myself, I can’t blame them. I also hate this country.
As an American I thought it would be much worse. 75% or more. We have been shitty neighbors. Seriously, threats, tariffs, insults, etc.
It might just be Politico being the polling source since it’s right-wing media company. In my anecdotal experience as a Canadian, not a single person I know across the political spectrum likes the US or Americans right now. It was a very strained relationship before 2016 but any resemblance of respect we have for the US is long gone at this point
