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    You know before America chose Trump, China and America were looking at an eventual amicable passing of the batton as far as who is the larger more important place of business, military, and finance…

    …now it’s looking more and more like something less amicable will happen.

    There’s only two ways super powers trade places in the ranks, peacefully or with a war… And I suspect the world will be greatly damaged if there’s a war between these two nations in particular.

    China is no paper tiger anymore, and as for their fighting spirit, they had a civil war paused it when WW2 broke out (because both their sides hated the Japanese), then went back to their civil war after WW2.

    It would be a rough fight for us all.

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      I disagree that that there was anything amicable during Biden years. Biden picked up exactly where Trump left off before him and he escalated tensions with stuff like CHIPS act, ban on Chinese EVs and so on. There’s been a continuation of policy here across administration since Obama’s pivot to Asia when the US decided that China was the main adversary. Things have been steadily escalating, and now they’re entering into an openly hostile territory.

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        Trump was the president before Biden. But also, Biden and Xi were meeting, talking, there’s several videos of these meetings. Both sides agreed they were on good terms and this whole sanction and blacklist wasn’t the focus of communications/relations.

        So I think there was far less chances of war under other leaders (as my comment was saying). Judging from your last sentence you agree the chances of open hostility is far greater under Trump, but you have a strange was of saying it.

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          Biden and Xi were meeting, talking, there’s several videos of these meetings. Both sides agreed they were on good terms and this whole sanction and blacklist wasn’t the focus of communications/relations.

          All an act

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            Oh, sorry, I just saw the community is on .ml

            …never mind, forget I said anything. Sure sure… Obama, Biden, Trump it’s all the same Capitalist Kabal… All equally likely to goto war because they’re the same systemic operatives. Even Xi is doing acts and shows with them… all part of the Capitalist illusion.

            Don’t vote, just let Trump destroy America so a Socialist Vanguard will take over. Down with dems… Ect…

            I’m sure Socialist argued none of these exact same points during the rise of Hitler and Fascism. Surely not. Yep, aw the first comment stated, it was actually Obama who ruined relations… Trump is just copying the Capitalist song and dance.

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              Oh, sorry, I just saw the community is on .ml

              LMAO, the guy you are replying to is on .world dumbass.

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              I’m sure Socialist argued none of these exact same points during the rise of Hitler and Fascism.

              Communists fought the nazis head on, liberals decided to ally with the nazis against the communists, leading to the rise of Hitler. It is pretty much like how democrats try to convince you we’re your enemies while trying to “meet in the middle” with republicans and other nonsense

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              Not everyone here is American but honestly with the way Dems are constantly punching left and compromising to the right while ignoring economic issues I doubt they’ll stop fascism

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              Obama, Biden, Trump it’s all the same Capitalist Kabal

              I mean yes they are. You don’t need to be a china cultist to know it

              Don’t vote, just let Trump destroy America so a Socialist Vanguard will take over. Down with dems… Ect…

              Or hold democrats and republicans accountable and avoid the catastrophe you fear

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      I really don’t think that’s the case. America has murder tens of millions if not hundreds of millions to hold on to its role as world hegemon. This was a bipartison effort. This phase of the Israeli genocide began under Biden and he supported it with everything he had because Israel is critical to maintaining US hegemony. If the democrats were giving full throated supported to genocide in the name of maintaining the US position what makes you think like this? The bourgeoisie doesn’t just had over the baton of power, you have to fight them for it.