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President Biden and other senior U.S. officials are becoming increasingly frustrated with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his rejection of most of the administration’s recent requests related to the war in Gaza, four U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the issue told Axios.
Why it matters: Since the Oct. 7 Hamas attack 100 days ago, Biden has given Israel his full backing, with unprecedented military and diplomatic support, even while taking a political hit from part of his base in an election year. That support has largely continued publicly, but behind the scenes, there are growing signs that Biden is losing his patience, the U.S. officials said.
- “The situation sucks and we are stuck. The president’s patience is running out,” one U.S. official told Axios.
- “At every juncture, Netanyahu has given Biden the finger,” Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), who has been in close contact with U.S. officials about the war, told Axios. “They are pleading with the Netanyahu coalition, but getting slapped in the face over and over again.”
Behind the scenes: Biden hasn’t spoken to Netanyahu in the 20 days since a tense Dec. 23 call, which a frustrated Biden ended with the words: “This conversation is over.” They had spoken almost every other day in the first two months of the war.
- Before Biden hung up, Netanyahu had rejected his request that Israel release the Palestinian tax revenues it’s withholding.
- National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby tried to downplay the decrease in communication, telling reporters on Wednesday that “it doesn’t say anything” about the state of the relationship.
- But more and more signs of irritation are emerging. “There is immense frustration,” a U.S. official said.
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At every juncture, Netanyahu has given Biden the finger
*Surprised Pikachu face
Racist people never care about anyone, once he is done with Palestinians, you can be sure he will go after someone else
Patience is not something he should have ever had with Netanyahu. An enemy to mankind should be our enemy, full stop. If Israel cannot stop and contain itself then the rest of the world needs to step in and handle it for them.
Can’t wait for this view to get us all into another forever war.
Great forethought and insight there, mate.
Forever war with who? Israel would thank us for eliminating Netanyahu. Sure as fuck would improve our relations with every other nation in the region.
Um, Iran? Pretty much the alpha and omega of any questions of western foreign policy in the region.
And the cascade of failed states that would result from the most massive humanitarian and refugee crisis in history–tens of millions dead, tens of millions of refugees–when Iran decides to go ahead with what it believes is its mission from God and the objective of its current foreign policy: to kill every Jew in the middleeast.
That would not be a forever war, just be the end of modern society the world over; Russia and North Korea will joint Iran’s side because Russia thinks it will be the leader of a new post-American world order.
But Russia and Iran are led by absolute delusional morons. Russia thinks it can get off a few nuclear strikes without provoking a massive US counterstrike aka major attack option one. Who knows, maybe Russia can; MAD deters total nuclear war, not small scale nuclear war.
Iran fucking hates Israel, they’ve already announced their ongoing attacks will end immediately upon an end to the conflict in Gaza. They would celebrate a change in US Policy.
Also, Israel is more likely to become a failed state if we leave Netanyahu in power. Protests and violence have filled the streets for months if not years. The resulting conflicts because of Bibi’s and his conservative Caucus’ Genocide is the cascading crisis that you’re afraid of. Doing nothing is the damnation you seek to avoid.
Fuck Russia, they’ve had dictators hovering over the button for a century. I’m not afraid of them, or I would have lived my entire life and all of it’s remainder in fear. If they want to fight then I’ll fight. If they’re threatening to play thermonuclear war, nothing is new and I don’t care.
funding open and obvious genocide
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telling somebody openly engaging in genocide that genocide is bad
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Cool story bro
Oil.
They can keep it, we should have shifted away from nonrenewable a lot sooner.
Bibi is just waiting and hoping for Trump.
It isn’t too late for Biden to turn things around here. Refuse to send more aid unless Netanyahu can ensure it won’t kill innocent people, and make him do a little dance too.
Like always, Bibi is putting politics above all else.
How does Iran factor into your equation?
Right? How is this not common knowledge? Putin is doing the same thing. Do people on Lemmy not follow the news?
But keep shipping missiles. Ok Biden.
How do you “run out of patience”? At some point, a line gets crossed. Bibi has either crossed the line, or he hasn’t. Saying “oh boy you’re trying my patience!” is about as toothless as my grandmother.
Good. Maybe this can be the turning point away from the US’s bootlicking support of Israel. Fuck Bibi and his genocidal goons.
Sure sure, running out of patience. How many days since they sent them more missles and weapons? What like, 11 or 12 days now? And before that Biden used an executive order to send even more? That was after we sent them an initial round of tons of weapons? Yeah Ill tell ya they’re bound to get a stern talking to any day now. I bet after they send them another 3 tons of ammunition the headlines will say something about how “the US is slamming Israel on their war in Gaza” Its so exhausting all this theater.
Alternative take: It would be negligent for any western country, especially America, to not use this opportunity to bolster Israel’s defensive capabilities for the inevitable war with Iran, as America’s policy is based on tens of millions of lives not tens of thousands.
It’s crickets when politicians propose giving billions of American taxpayer money and weapons to Israel, year after year. It has never been a better time to stop fucking doing that for good.
Biden is going to lose an election over it. Let’s try sanctions against Israel instead of, maybe, you know, giving them billions in military aid that’s being used to kill toddlers.
“This conversation is over.”
Like when you have enough with someone and tell them “Do as you like”, instead the responsible thing to say is “you are not getting any of our weapons, Sherlock”
More finger wagging, no action.
Me, too, Joey. Me fucking too.
Bibi doesn’t give two craps about Biden. Bibi knows that the entire Gaza debacle is a mess for Biden. He probably bets on a GOP win later this year, which will come with a big wave of financial support for him anyway.
Why would he? He’s gonna get finnancial support no matter what party wins
Its fully within his power to pull 100% of the money Israel receives from the US and cut off all access to weapons. He has chosen not to.
It sure it. But then, the most powerful kingmaker in the US is AIPAC, if they withdraw their support of Biden, he will struggle in the presidential race.
Then the risk of a xenophobic wannabe dictator getting elected is put on the otherside of the scale.
So if you look at this from a purely US point of view. The tradeoff is brown people half a world away die, vs the US becoming trumplandia with all the vengeance he has promised to bestow on his political rivals.
So if it was your choice, what would you chose?
Edit to clarify: yes it’s bizarre US allows PACs, corporations should not be treated as people, the situation is FUBAR.
Biden’s approval rating is 33%. AIPAC is of no consequence here - no incumbent in the history of US Federal elections has ever won with such abysmal polls in an election year. Not once, ever. Biden isn’t going to magically make history here, and his ego telling him he has to do 2 terms instead of allowing for a primary election so democracy can play out is the reason why.
Then he has the audacity to claim democracy is on the line this year. It’s already gone, America is just in denial about it.
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I vote for no one needlessly dying anywhere.
If Trump wins a lot of people will die, just like last time.
More people have died, lost their homes, lost their cars, lost wages, a lot more loss in general under Biden. If you dont want trump then you better start pushing for party to primary Biden
I’d ask you for a source on this nonsense but then who are we kidding right?
Not that it matters, liberals will deny facts in the face of evidence when the blue fascists do it
Elderly are becoming the fastest growing segment of the unhoused
Food bank usage at record highs
Biden’s approach to dealing with COVID (mirrored after DeSantis’ version) has led to more needless death. And this isnt even counting the 10s of thousands of Palestinian deaths he’s allowing to happen.
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People are going to look back in AIPAC and wonder… how AI got a political action committee before chatgtp 6.0 passed the Turning test.
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It’s funny. We’re running out of patience with Biden.
Americans shouldn’t run out of patience with Biden. When the election comes, they might reelect Trump and that would be a catastrophe.
Maybe that’s what Netanyahu wants?
Americans shouldn’t run out of patience with Biden.
People shouldn’t have voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries. That was a stupid shitty thing to do.
And your point is? We can’t change the past, all we can do is try to make a better future. It sounds like you just want to give up because you didn’t get your way in 2020. That’s pretty childish.
Centerists like you will never say it’s the right time to have this conversation. You keep electing procorporate trash and then acting like everybody you fuck over in the process owes your garbage candidate their vote. It’s not fooling anybody. You know exactly what you did in the primaries. You made this bed now lie in it. If you need our votes in the future make better choices in the primaries. Simple as that.
