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      7 months ago

      Well, it was probably on some text book then that you could cite.

      But, clearly, the answer to my question is “no I can’t.” I suspect that this is probably because, at best, it’s a terrible exaggeration of something you were told.

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        7 months ago

        Yeah dude, let me take some time out of my day to track down the history text books I used in high school so I can cite to you some anti-China propaganda. You’re funny.

        Edit: Oh hey look. I literally just googled, “US education anti-china” and here’s a pretty informative article:

        https://thehill.com/opinion/education/4472696-the-anti-china-academic-panic-is-hurting-america/

        I’m sure that’s the extent of it though, right?

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          That article doesn’t, at all, support your point. It’s about academics being harassed for being Chinese, not about our education system teaching kids that Chinese people are sent to reeducation camps for petty things.

          Heaping dishonesty on top of your empty claims just makes your position look even weaker, and casts a shadow on your credibility and objectivity.

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            It’s the chilling effect from years of anti-China propaganda, even amongst scientists. The fact that you’re incapable of putting 2 and 2 together there speaks volumes. Or maybe you just don’t want to.

            I’m not a scholar on anti-China propaganda in the US (I just live/lived through it), but I am certain that if you actually gave a shit about this, you would do a modicum of research yourself. I’m not making some kind of fringe claim here dude.

            Should I just call it “anti-communist” propaganda? Would you understand then? Or are you gonna pretend that’s not real too?

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              7 months ago

              Lol I asked for your “2” and you were unable to provide it.

              You’re projecting your ignoring of the facts to maintain your conclusion.

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                What a strange thing to do… Either a) you speak like an expert about something you clearly aren’t familiar with (and likely didn’t even live through personally), or b) you know exactly what you’re talking about, yet you’re doing some bizarre attempt to gaslight people into believing anti-communist, anti-China propaganda in the US. isn’t something that has existed pretty much in the open since at least the Korean War. I guess the Red Scare didn’t exist. I guess China had no involvement in the Korean or Vietnam wars. I guess China wasn’t a massive factor throughout the entirety of the Cold War…

                Both are weird, and unfortunately it seems more like the latter to me.

                I guess good luck convincing other people?

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                  7 months ago

                  I’ve never denied that there is anti China propaganda in the us. I challenged your bs claim that you were taught in school that people are sent to reeducation camps for petty things.

                  You just desperately need to reframe the debate because even you realize it’s bs, but your ego is too fragile to admit that you were wrong or just exaggerating.

                  Although, it might predate me, if we are talking about pre-80s. But I assure you, the nonsense you claim was not part of my education post that time. It was more “China got much stronger once it adopted more capitalism. Isn’t capitalism just fantastic!”

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                    7 months ago

                    If this is your reaction any time a person makes a hyperbolic statement for emphasis on fucking lemmy, then you may need to re-evaluate your priorities.