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    This is just ignorant man. The GOP, especially prior to the late 90s, was a coalition party the same way the Dems are. They now are not.

    You don’t have to agree with anything the old GOP stood for to recognize this fact.

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      You need to realize: Republicans were lying back then, too. Those are talking points for them, not fundamental beliefs.

      The only difference now is they’re just telling you what they mean instead of couching it in dog whistles, like “urban” (black) problems, or the Satanic Panic of the 80s and 90s…

      They’re the same judgemental pricks. They’re only using meaner words these days.

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        They really weren’t tho. You had traditional conservatives (what, say, Trump pretends to be), small-business Chamber of Commerce conservatives, neocons, evangelicals, and some amount of neoliberals that identified as conservative, along with independents-who-trend-R like Libertarians.

        There used to be very strong pro-welfare conservatives, pro-environment conservatives, etc sprinkled throughout the entire mix.

        Those groups have been driven away or subsumed into nationalists and evangelicals.

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          Those other conservatives were only there because of the lies of the party.

          What kind of legislation did they pass?

          Abortion bans, protection of marriage acts, controlling sex ed in school, “patriot” acts that legalize spying on citizens, limits and controls on immigration, tax cuts and deregulation…

          They’ve ALWAYS been judgemental monsters. Stop buying their lies. They aren’t even using them any more.

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              Honestly man, you just don’t understand how conservative the US is.

              Bernie Sanders is center-right on the world stage.

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                  Are you literally fucking stupid? I have never and will never support monarchy. The fact you think that after this seriously means your brain is fucking broken.

                  I’m pushing against Republicans. I’m pushing against milk-toast Dems. I DO NOT support the CCP, Russia, or the USSR, because I’m not a fucking idiot that fetishizes authority.

                  This conversation started by me telling you the Republicans have always been evil. Then you took offense at me explaining gow that is obvious, and then you responded with an ad hominem. Grow the fuck up you literal child.

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                    It’s not an ad hominem if it is both relevant to the topic and correct.

                    I didn’t say you supported monarchy. I said that center-right group in Norway does. Bernie Sanders is not center-right in Europe

                    Reading is FUNdamental