You may have noticed a distinct lack of return2ozma. This is due to their admitting, in a public comment, that their engagement here is in bad faith:

I’m sure there will be questions, let me see if I can address the most obvious ones:

  1. Can I still post negative stuff about Biden?

Absolutely! We have zero interest in running an echo chamber. However, if ALL you’re posting is negative, you may want to re-think your priorities. You get out of the world what you put into it and all that.

  1. Why now?

Presumption of innocence. It may be my own fault, but I do try to think the best of people, and even though they were posting negative articles, they weren’t necessarily WRONG. Biden’s poll numbers, particularly in minority demographics ARE in the shitter. They are starting to get better, but he still has a hell of a hill to climb.

  1. Why a 30 day temp ban and not a permanent ban?

The articles return2ozma shared weren’t bad, faked, or from some wing-nut bias site like “beforeitsnews.com”, they were legitimate articles from established and respected news agencies, pointing out the valid problems Biden faces.

The problem was ONLY posting the negatives, over and over and then openly admitting that dishonest enagement is their purpose.

Had they all been bullshit articles? It would not have taken anywhere near this much time to lay the ban and it would have been permanent.

30 days seems enough time for them to re-think their strategery and come back to engage honestly.

tl;dr - https://youtu.be/C6BYzLIqKB8#t=7s

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    5 months ago

    Confidently saying something like that clearly illustrates the problem with leftism, lefty. You people have no concept of how nuance works or even what it means.

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      5 months ago

      Confidently saying something like that clearly illustrates the problem with liberalism, liberal. You people have no use for nuance except as something to hide behind.

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        5 months ago

        Dude, your entire post/comment history reads like a cautionary tale on how not to come off as the “ackshually” meme guy.

        Side note- calling liberals “liberal” isn’t the insult you think it is.

        And lastly… nuance isn’t a thing to hide behind. It’s just… a thing. You see, the world and everthing in it- exists within a grey area called “reality.” This is ironically where a lot of ignorant people stage their ideology of “everthing is either black-and-white/everyone is either with us, or against us” from.

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          calling liberals “liberal” isn’t the insult you think it is.

          You mean… just like the terms fascist, white supremacist and colonialist weren’t insults once? They sure are now, aren’t they?

          And lastly… nuance isn’t a thing to hide behind.

          Then stop hiding behind it, liberal. Defend your ideology… if you can.

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            Okay, since you’ve basically admitted to using the term “liberal” as an insult, I’ve nothing to say to you. Because circumventing the “no personal attacks” rule by calling people “liberals” as a derogatory is about as bad faith as it gets.

            You’re the conversational equivalent of a Trump supporter.

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              Lol!

              What’s the matter, liberal? If your ideology wasn’t a problem, being labelled accordingly couldn’t possibly be an insult, could it?

              You can flatter me all day long by calling me a socialist or a radical - it doesn’t matter how you did it. Perhaps it’s because, unlike you, I actually know what those terms mean.

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                The problem here is that you think you’re being clever by skirting the rules of this community by calling me a liberal as an insult- after admitting it’s an insult. But it’s only considered an insult to people who don’t understand how things work in the real world- so… in essence, no one relevant.

                And you’re clearly not any smarter than OP who admitted they were here to post propaganda, you’re here admitting back-door insults.

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                    Again, if you can’t have a discussion with someone in good faith without resorting to your little secret insults, you can’t really ever expect to be taken seriously or treated as an adult, can you?

                    Imagine if I called you… hmm.

                    Imagine if I called you “bait troll” after every sentence. And then defended myself by saying, it’s not an insult if it’s true, right? Because we both know why you’re derailing every conversion you are in with the “liBeRaL” rhetoric. It’s to circumvent the “be civil” rules here and to bait people into being reported by you.

                    This conversation, and many others you’ve had all seem to end the same way.

                    With you smugly insulting everyone you come in contact with until they give up…

                    You’re now not to ever be taken seriously. Way to go man. Big win for your ideology. Be sure to let the others see your good work here. You’ve managed to hurt your cause even further.

                    Now- go ahead and respond with some more petty insults while completely ignoring the wheelhouse of the conversion.