• Luna@lemdro.id
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    4 months ago

    FINALLY someone gets this. I don’t care about the “premium look” whatever that means, I just don’t want my phone to break when I accidentally drop it. Which is why I always put a case on my phone

    In fact, I’m pretty sure phone manufacturers started putting glass on the back of phones specifically to make them less durable so that customers buy a new phone sooner

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      4 months ago

      Nah, it’s mostly because all the tech reviewers trashed phones with plastic backs saying they felt cheap. If you look at any of those reviews they always talk about the premium feel.

      It also changed from aluminium to glass backs mostly for wireless charging.

      Plastic backs are better, but the tech reviewers did a lot of damage there. If they’d tried to influence people and explained why particular made sense instead of trashing it we may have more plastic phones.

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    4 months ago

    I just want replaceable batteries on my phones again. The last two Samsung phones I owned ended up with swollen batteries, requiring sending them back to Samsung for repairs. I really miss the days of just being able to pop the back off and buying a replacement battery.

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      4 months ago

      Yup, I agree 100%. I usually go with a slim case because I follow a few self-imposed rules.

      • Phone does not leave pocket when drinking or around people who are drinking.
      • I don’t need to take my phone out if I’m visiting friends or family.
      • I immediately pocket my phone if I’m moving, even just around the apartment.

      I’ve not dropped my phone once since owning my first 12 years ago. I do not care what it’s made of.

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      4 months ago

      When I was younger and more naïve, I used to think a case was useless. I kept my phones in my pocket most of the time, and didn’t feel particularly clumsy or reckless. Then I got a phone that happened to have a glass back, and it broke not because I fumbled it, but because it slid out of my pocket onto time floor while I was sitting down. Glass backs on phones are bullshit.

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        4 months ago

        Ha the exact same thing happened to me. Most expensive phone I ever bought, and it broke first time it was “dropped” slipping out of my pants while I was sitting down. it was such a tiny drop, only half of dropping from a dining table, and probably a third if I was standing with it in my hand.

        The effect of the drop being exponential to the height, the about 35-40cm is really a minuscule drop for an everyday tool. Yet it was enough to break the backside glass, which doesn’t even have a purpose, beyond moronic reviewers claiming it FEELS premium.

        Well IMO it’s way inferior to high end plastics, that have way better durability, weigh less, is less bulky, and is less slippery. There is simply no comparison, it’s infuriating that Samsung made the Galaxy originally with plastic back, but changed it because ALL reviewers claimed it didn’t feel premium. Completely disregarding it won ALL durability tests against iPhone by far, it wasn’t even a competition.

        Fuck idiotic reviewers that scold a feature that is actually hugely beneficial!!! Fuck the Apple way is always better mindset, even when it clearly isn’t.

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    4 months ago

    Phone material stopped mattering the moment camera bumps became a thing. Now, nearly everyone slaps a case to balance out the bump.

    That said, I miss my completely mirrored-back Sony Xperia Z5 Premium.

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    4 months ago

    Only fashion victims thought that.

    Companies happily obliged them, bumping the price of phones that break much more easily.

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    4 months ago

    It’s funny that we buy these metal and glass phones and then protect them with rubber and plastic cases.

    New phones are made to show wear so that they lose resale value.

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      4 months ago

      It’s not funny, it’s moronic. But I guess that’s kind of what you meant. 😋

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      4 months ago

      I always buy a new phone and a new case and after some years I ditch the case because it wouldn’t hurt to buy a replacement and it feels like a new slimmer version of my trusted phone…

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    4 months ago

    I find the cheap phones are often the “premium” ones.

    Those are the ones with plastic backs, headphone jacks, multiple SIMs, smaller size, lighter weight, good physical fingerprint readers, etc.

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    4 months ago

    nah phones aint premium until the price is lower f*cking phone costs so you dont have to spend half a months salary just to not have it become junk in 3 years and not be a buggy mess at launch premium is not paying an arm and a leg and not having your every move tracked and sold to the highest bidder

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    4 months ago

    Nice to finally see a review stating what I’ve been thinking ever since the Samsung Galaxy 2 was scorned 13 years ago by reviewers for having a plastic back, and not having the premium feel of the much more fragile iPhone.
    Ever since it’s like a conspiracy of reviewers hailing the premium feel of metal unibodies or glass backs, despite the clearly lower quality of those materials, while dissing superior plastic bodies that weigh less, has way better shock absorption, is less bulky, and is less slippery and therefore less prone to drop out of pockets or bags.
    The main reason it feels more “premium” is the extra weight, which is clearly detrimental to usability.

    It’s like cheap stuff like cheap loudspeakers, where they have iron bars in them to ad weight, to make the speaker “feel” better. Where a speaker with a stronger (magnet) may actually be better.

    But with phones it is 100% people fooling themselves, if they think heavier is better, and fragile glass is somehow better than sturdy quality synthetics.

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    Premium phones make little sense, based on what I’ve seen everyone puts them in cases anyway. “Premium materials” are slippery and “premium thinness” results in insufficient battery capacity so accessories like phone rings get put on them, and people carry around external battery packs.

    Why not just make a grippy, practical phone that I can use as a tool, with removable batteries, a 3.5mm headphone jack, and expandable memory?

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      The only thing premium phones have going for them are really good cameras. I love midrange phones but the photos they produce are not as good as flagships.

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      Because that phone would last and you would only need a new one every 4-5 or however many years instead of 1-2 so capitalist companies won’t see that as having any value.

      I think companies know what people want and how to make a great phone like that, just none of them will or want to be the first.

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      4 months ago

      so fairphone?, look it up, it’s a phone maker that do exactly that

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        Unfortunately, they have minimal support for US frequencies. The US market is dominated by disgustingly expensive flagships, and severely compromised midrange and budget offerings.

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      I don’t need the audio jack, but I guess it doesn’t hurt. There are phones that have all that, but unfortunately they are at most mid-range phones which isn’t what I’m looking for.

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      4 months ago

      The first Android phones were really exciting. I got a Samsung Galaxy (no numbers, no letters, just Galaxy) in 2009. AMOLED screen - the first Android experience for me. Unfortunately Samsung dropped the update support really soon - which got me into custom ROMs - another exciting thing…

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      4 months ago

      When I switched from shitty LCD to nice AMOLED screen. It was Galaxy S3 I think.

      Then, meh, I don’t like phones without the bezels.

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        I wish thicker bezels were more common tbh. It’s annoying to swipe from the side of the screen when my case is in the way.

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      4 months ago

      You don’t like paying for a phone that’s the price of a mortgage payment, while having features removed every year?

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    You know what’s funny? I dream of a form factor like the Nintendo Switch: fully plastic, even the screen, so I could put a high quality glass screen protector like the one I have on the console. The thing is a tank, surviving many falls without a single damage, and I had to swap the protector once in all these years I have it.

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    High end plastics are by far the superior material from any usability perspective. I hate glass phones, and the first glass phone I bought of course broke in only 4 months! Where I’d never had a phone break on me before. And any of my older plastic phones would probably barely have noticed the tiny drop that broke my glass back phone.
    Now I have an added plastic cover, which is ugly, and makes the phone unnecessarily bigger than if it had a quality plastic body instead of the moronic glass.

    I will never buy anything but phones with a plastic back in the future. Problem is that often the only alternative is vegan leather, which is also not as durable and will show wear way before a high end plastic back.