Republican men seem massively troubled about their masculinity — and that’s literally causing death and suffering

  • Loom In Essence@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The enormous numbers of people killing themselves are not necessarily buying guns or hating minorities. And therapy can only respond to pre-exisitng problems. If there are society-wide problems creating terrible living conditions, we need a society-wide prevention scheme.

    Or you can spew vile hatred and pretend it’s because you’re against hatred.

      • Loom In Essence@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        You’re suggesting that the cause of a wave of suicides is only a lack of therapy? There’s nothing else behind it?

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            1 year ago

            Therapy can possibly help heal. I’m more interested in reducing the conditions which make therapy necessary.

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              You don’t understand. You don’t need to have a mental health condition to go to therapy. Healthy minded people benefit from therapy as well to put their emotions and thoughts into perspective.

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                Again, I’m not saying “don’t go to therapy.” We are talking about a nationwide phenomenon of depression, suicide, addiction. Therapy can help some of those people. But this phenomenon has some cause. All this talk of therapy is seeking to add therapy instead of removing the cause.

                I want to respond to the cause itself, rather than only adding therapy.

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          Increase gun ownership is likely a factor, among many other factors.

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              No, but it’s causing suicide attempts turn into suicides. If you try to OD or whatever, your chances of death are much lower than if you try to see what the barrel of your gun tastes like.

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                1 year ago

                I’m all for banning guns.

                But I am NOT interested in simply removing a person’s capacity to kill themselves and then leaving their desire to kill themselves intact… and then ignoring the conditions that are making hordes of people depressed enough to kill themselves.

                I’m also 100% interested in the people who are depressed but who aren’t suicidal. I want people to live their best lives. This conversation should be about them, about what’s causing this about whether we can help. I want to know what’s wrong. I want them to stop wanting to kill themselves.

    • Zuberi 👀@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      So angry for no reason. Maybe implement changes that will fix the problem?.. There is another 100k a year just conking out to fent.

      There are so many issues for randoms to be defending 2a like it will somehow save the USA from this cesspool

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        Where are you getting this 2a stuff from? How is it even related? Nobody said that guns will save the USA from suicides and overdoses. You’re talking nonsense.

        And who is “angry for no reason?” You’re the one angry at men who are killing themselves. This is super weird and cruel.

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          1 year ago

          we need a society-wide prevention scheme.

          If your “prevention scheme” is not exclusively limiting gun sales, you’ve definitely been drinking the 2a koolaid