Look I’m all for rehabilitation, but she’s 19 currently, which places her at 16-17 for the murder, without doing more research. By all means, she should receive psychiatric care and rehabilitation should be attempted, but we shouldn’t have our hopes up. And while that’s going on, she must be kept imprisoned – mercy should not come at the expense of the innocence. Someone who makes a threat and then consciously speeds up to kill someone with a car is dangerous to society.
Something else I’ve come to learn is that unfortunately, punishment is necessary. Someone who’s prone to angry outbursts of racism and hate needs to understand that it’s absolutely unacceptable and they need to change. If you keep giving them a slap on the wrist each time, they won’t take it seriously, as compassionate as you are and as much as you try to convince them to change their ways.
This woman will be like 70 paying for the sins of a crazy 17 year old she doesn’t know or understand. Reminds me of Shawshank Redemption. I can feel bad for the victims while also empathizing with the life of the perp being lost and wasted as well
Though I mostly agree with your I do wonder what you’d think if this wasn’t a cute sexy teenager but a fat 25 year old black girl. Or worse, an ugly black guy.
I’m reading these comments and find weirdly a lot of “aahhhwww poor her” messages and I can’t escape the feeling it’s because she’s young and pretty
Unfortunately she made a decision that KILLED SOMEONE with the intent of KILLING SOMEONE.
Her victims will never get to be 70. Let her rot.
And you’re acting like that 70 year old is innocent. That 70 year old intentionally murdered someone because she was upset. Yeah it was 53 years ago but that’s the same person. 53 years ago that 70 year old deprived another human being of the rest of their life because she got upset. I don’t think you’d have the same sympathy for other criminals just because their crime was decades ago.
I think people might be getting too hung up on the car and thinking it makes this less of a big deal. It’s the opposite though imo – you shoot a loaded gun, it’s a split second. You hit someone with a car, you’ve had plenty of time to think things through. You don’t tap the accelerator once and then they’re dead. You have to commit to the decision, and actively choose to not hit the brakes or swerve away or throw on the emergency brake.
I have no pity. She knew what she was doing, she chose to do it, and she thought about it beforehand.
Nobody argued that it does. They’re arguing that a 70 year old shouldn’t be held responsible for actions they took over 5 decades in the past - from when they were a person so far removed from who they are now that they’re effectively a different person.
No, they’re not literally a different person. Nobody’s actually arguing that lol.
It probably would have made a difference if the victims families could see it this way. It’s not like she ran him over. She crashed the car she was in also. Clearly an unsound mind at work.
Yet they begged for the harshest possible sentence. It won’t be enough for them. But the rest of us get to pay for her incarceration for the rest of her natural life.
I went through some pretty turbulent relationship shit when I was that young. One time my girlfriend was so mad at me she opened the car door while we were traveling at freeway speed. She didn’t jump, but still… I feel like I brushed up against this level of crazy even in just the course of my rather average teenage years.
Yeah I was wondering if I was the only one thinking “mentally unfit and not even a legal adult.”
People are all on fire about the fact that she threatened it beforehand therefore it’s open and shut murder. But crazy people are capable of making threats.
Rehabilitation doesn’t mean the perpetrator won’t spend years separated from society, just that the perp’s sequestration happens in a setting meant to enable him/her to return to society in the distant future, assuming the perp becomes a changed person.
Is this even a question either? Rehabilitation absolutely should be the goal,if possible, no matter what. I’m sure the parent will want revenge, but that doesn’t make it right.
A haiku about this comment section:
Healthy mind? Minor? We don’t rehabilitate In the USA
Look I’m all for rehabilitation, but she’s 19 currently, which places her at 16-17 for the murder, without doing more research. By all means, she should receive psychiatric care and rehabilitation should be attempted, but we shouldn’t have our hopes up. And while that’s going on, she must be kept imprisoned – mercy should not come at the expense of the innocence. Someone who makes a threat and then consciously speeds up to kill someone with a car is dangerous to society.
Something else I’ve come to learn is that unfortunately, punishment is necessary. Someone who’s prone to angry outbursts of racism and hate needs to understand that it’s absolutely unacceptable and they need to change. If you keep giving them a slap on the wrist each time, they won’t take it seriously, as compassionate as you are and as much as you try to convince them to change their ways.
You’re correct. She was 17 when this occurred
This woman will be like 70 paying for the sins of a crazy 17 year old she doesn’t know or understand. Reminds me of Shawshank Redemption. I can feel bad for the victims while also empathizing with the life of the perp being lost and wasted as well
Though I mostly agree with your I do wonder what you’d think if this wasn’t a cute sexy teenager but a fat 25 year old black girl. Or worse, an ugly black guy.
I’m reading these comments and find weirdly a lot of “aahhhwww poor her” messages and I can’t escape the feeling it’s because she’s young and pretty
Unfortunately she made a decision that KILLED SOMEONE with the intent of KILLING SOMEONE.
Her victims will never get to be 70. Let her rot.
And you’re acting like that 70 year old is innocent. That 70 year old intentionally murdered someone because she was upset. Yeah it was 53 years ago but that’s the same person. 53 years ago that 70 year old deprived another human being of the rest of their life because she got upset. I don’t think you’d have the same sympathy for other criminals just because their crime was decades ago.
I think people might be getting too hung up on the car and thinking it makes this less of a big deal. It’s the opposite though imo – you shoot a loaded gun, it’s a split second. You hit someone with a car, you’ve had plenty of time to think things through. You don’t tap the accelerator once and then they’re dead. You have to commit to the decision, and actively choose to not hit the brakes or swerve away or throw on the emergency brake.
I have no pity. She knew what she was doing, she chose to do it, and she thought about it beforehand.
If you’re the same person at 70 than you were at 17, that’s more of a you problem than anything. Like seriously, that’s not good.
I’m not claiming the person wouldn’t have any growth or change. The growth or change doesn’t negate that this girl committed premeditated murder.
Nobody argued that it does. They’re arguing that a 70 year old shouldn’t be held responsible for actions they took over 5 decades in the past - from when they were a person so far removed from who they are now that they’re effectively a different person.
No, they’re not literally a different person. Nobody’s actually arguing that lol.
It probably would have made a difference if the victims families could see it this way. It’s not like she ran him over. She crashed the car she was in also. Clearly an unsound mind at work.
Yet they begged for the harshest possible sentence. It won’t be enough for them. But the rest of us get to pay for her incarceration for the rest of her natural life.
I went through some pretty turbulent relationship shit when I was that young. One time my girlfriend was so mad at me she opened the car door while we were traveling at freeway speed. She didn’t jump, but still… I feel like I brushed up against this level of crazy even in just the course of my rather average teenage years.
The u.s system is about revenge and punishment
Yeah I was wondering if I was the only one thinking “mentally unfit and not even a legal adult.”
People are all on fire about the fact that she threatened it beforehand therefore it’s open and shut murder. But crazy people are capable of making threats.
Last i checked rehab was like a monster truck derby.
So you think we should “rehab” school shooters too?
Yes.
People like him hate it when you hold on to your principles in the face of adversity.
Would you have the balls to say that to the face of the parents of a slain child?
Or only from the anonymous safety of your computer screen?
Rehabilitation doesn’t mean the perpetrator won’t spend years separated from society, just that the perp’s sequestration happens in a setting meant to enable him/her to return to society in the distant future, assuming the perp becomes a changed person.
Yes.
Is this even a question either? Rehabilitation absolutely should be the goal,if possible, no matter what. I’m sure the parent will want revenge, but that doesn’t make it right.
How is that even a question ?
Have you ever wondered why the US has so many school shooters?