• nomous@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Nah, they’re different, religion is a cancer, spirituality can give people a sense of belonging or being part of something bigger than themselves. Eat some mushrooms and tell me they’re the same thing lol.

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      5 months ago

      Spirituality, even more than religion, is some broadly used word for all kinds of stuff like healing crystals, zodiac signs etc. A sense of belonging can come from many things, that doesn’t make it true or good per se. What you are describing is drug use. Spirituality may sound better for you, but it’s just bullshit for drug use. I’m not judging, but it is what it is.

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        5 months ago

        I’m sorry you feel that way.

        A better inner-life (a more spiritual outlook) is actually key part of recovery from drugs and mental illness and can ignore god completely. Drugs can help experience it but aren’t necessary, my mushroom comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek but they have been used for millenia as a shortcut or aid to shamans and medicine men. To write off multiple cultures experiences as “just drug use” is incredibly dismissive and arrogant.

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          5 months ago

          A better inner-life is possible without intermixing it with intangible hocus pocus. Calling something “spiritual” or retracting to it beeing “culture” is often used as protection against criticism and I see you do it here. Something can be culture and still be criticized or called out for what it actually is. Slavery has been part of pretty much every culture at some point. Would you call me arrogant when I say it’s still inhumane and criminal behaviour? And thats what I do. It’s been culture for centuries, but all the time, it was also “taking drugs, feeling like beeing part of something bigger charged with magical thinking”.

          edit: All you say about spirituality can be said about religion. It helps people and gives them purpose and has been culture for thousands of years. Yet, you say

          religion is a cancer

          Isn’t that way more disrespectful, dismissive and arrogant that what I am doing? Whats your measure here?

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            5 months ago

            You’re free to live your life the way you like but mistaking everyone with a spiritual belief as religious is incorrect. Have a nice day.

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      5 months ago

      They’re different, but not opposite. It’s like comparing height and colour.