I dislike the paradigm that there are “techy people/programmers” and “tech illiterates/non programmers”. Anyone can develop the skills to properly use unix interfaces given proper training; and I know that’s true because the whole world used to run (mostly) unix on the desktop before corporate took over. Unix doesn’t need to be windowsified/macosified to get people to move over; people need to unlearn the interfaces corporate has brainwashed them with for generations. There are so many more interesting user interfaces than just what Windows and MacOS provide; graphical or otherwise.
I don’t know any programming languages but can navigate around Linux, both TUI and GUI.
The most “programming” I can do is make a basic scratch project and print(“Hello World!”) in python, but linux is great
How do you do that in python…
Impressive, you look like a very skilled programmer, management has told me you are now tasked with building a hyper-realistic virtual simulation of a Large Hadron Collider including detailed simulations of the lives of the actual workers and their families, you have a week or you’re fired by the firing squad, no you’re not allowed to ask why we need it or who we are or why we chose you and it is especially forbidden to ask for more time (and no you can’t ask why that is either). See you in a week, have a nice day :).
I am ready to
integrate with Open AI’s APIdevelop an LLM.
This is bad practice.
More accurately it should look something like this:
# Load sys library for exiting with status code import sys def sayHelloWorld(outPhrase: str="Hello World"): # Main function, print a phrase and return NoneType print(outPhrase) return None if __name__=="__main__": # Provide output and exit cleanly when run from shell sayHelloWorld() sys.exit(0) else: # Exit with rc!=0 when not run from shell sys.exit(1)Fellow pythonistas, how can I make this code more pythonic?
I personally use windows (I play a lot of different games with friends, and setting all of them up in Linux is a lot of work) and I hate it.
However my mum only uses her laptop for browsing and zoom calls, so I installed Linux mint on that and it’s been going great, there are soooo much less issues than with modern windows.
Really? I have migrated to Fedora Linux and have had 0 issues playing games. Literally just installed steam then heroic launcher for my games on GOG and Epic. I did have a little issue get ea games to load but that was as my as blocker blocked ea games from fetching the librsry. Which in fair EA faorness EA sucks and should be vlocked.
Had some issues with EAC and getting games to run OOTB which was an issue with spontaneously playing weird and obscure games. If I or we would plan our sessions properly it wouldn’t have been a problem though
Fully agree on the EA thing, as well as ubishit constantly being buggy and a pain to work with though.
I don’t even know how to write “hello world” in python but I use vanilla Arch XD
Same here, I work in the arts and can’t code a thing, but I use Arch (btw) as my daily driver.
If I recall correctly Arch has … ssh into wifey’s laptop … python installed out of the box.
Run up a console and type python, and hit enter. Type in print (“Hello World”) and hit enter. There you go!
If you lack a python: $ yay -S python.
Vanilla arch would be pacman -S python 🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸🥸
You can get yay on arch too
And I recommend that very much!
This goes hard
It was my first Linux distro after using Microsoft stuff for ages and let me tell you: it was a big mistake. It was absolutely confusing, had to use terminal for so many things with even msdos commands that I forgot that existed, broke it 3 times by just trying to automount the other drivers and a host of other things.
End up switching to Linux mint and the transition went much smoother after that. I’m going back to it eventually though. I actually like it a lot.
EndeavourIS is the Arch for people like you 😉 (and me)
I’m not a programmer and I’ve been dual booting for 25 years.
“Workflow”. There it is.
I’m also not a programmer but here’s why Linux is my daily driver:
I like it.
Gnome is so much more cozy than windows
Windows 10 AME also feels very cozy, like Win 7, but its days are numbered unless I stop using internet on it.
Even Windows users are shitting on 11 and questioning using Windows.
Gods, I miss Windows 7 UI. I really dislike the push for everything to be flat nowadays. Aero, my beloved!
KDE Plasma is so much more snappy and functional than Windows. Linux has lots of good options.
cinnamon is so uhh default in Linux Mint and i like it
I love the diversity in this thread
I have no formal tech background, but I’m pretty damn good with it. And I like Arch and Debian with XFCE.
Stephen Fry the comedian/tv presenter is also a huge linux advocate. Specifically Ubuntu. He’s been using it for decades at this point.
As if I needed more reasons to love Stephen Fry!
Why is it that people think Linux distros are for programmers or tech people only? This is the reason why we don’t get many people on Linux distros.
Terminal inputs seems like coding. Back in the day you can mess with everything by coding. Having to spend time on forums and searching Google to fix problems that are Terminal inputs only is not something people want to do and what people are passionate about a thing or it is their hobby do.
Most people use what is in front of them, works, and what they are use too. I don’t have time to fix the wifi issue on my 10 year old linux laptop I just plugged it in. Other option is to reinstall windows every 6 months
Because they live with old news and don’t update tech news knowledge as often as tech savy people do.
Because installing a different operating system than the one that came pre installed is a non zero amount of effort.
I think this here is probably one of the larger reasons. A large portion of users barely know the difference between a browser and a search engine, let alone the operating system they are using, and nor do they care. People just use whatever their computer comes with out of the box. Most people probably couldn’t tell you the difference between Windows 11 and a Linux distro customized to look exactly the same.
My wife has used Linux for over a decade. She primarily uses a web browser, office suite and a money management app.
Those have all been well-covered by Linux for years.
what does she use for money management?
Moneydance. That was a choice made years ago. It works fine, but we haven’t reviewed the options in years. On the plus side, Moneydance is cross-platform, syncs to a remote server, has mobile apps and is reasonably priced.
thanks. I have never used one but have been contemplating doing so.
I’m not sure if this is part of the “frequency illusion”, but I’ve noticed a lot more mainstream media talking about Linux as a viable alternative.
Probably because you associate more with lemmy, I think most lemmy users use linux
I highly doubt most do, just that the percentage of Linux users may be higher than on many other platforms.
The most used platform for Lemmy is likely still Windows or a mobile OS.
Yeah clearly Lemmy might have a lot of Linux users because Lemmy in itself is really niche. Way more than Linux.
I think Lemmy plays a part in it but also all the stuff with MS recently (and people getting tired of it).
I think most Lemmy users use Linux
I was thinking about this earlier today. I’d love to do a Lemmy wide survey to see how true this is or to what extent.
And recent fumbling of msft with recall
It’s not, I’ve been using Linux for 20 years and it’s been gradually getting more and more exposure on the main media. I think there was a huge push with Steam Machines and then another one with Proton, then every Windows screw up bumps it a little more. We’re probably going to get another bump in popularity in a short while when Windows 11 enables the new feature that will take screenshots of everything you do (credit cards, passwords, etc) and use an AI to search through them.
I’ve definitely seen more video content of people trying Linux or moving over completely after that announcement from MS.
I’m a video producer and writer, I only use linux.
Ooh, does Linux have good open source video editing? I remember back in the day that was tricky. (Or I am misremembering.)
I do video editing myself in Linux and Kdenlive does pretty much everything I need. The UI is a bit odd to learn but I’d imagine any new editing software is gonna have a learning curve of some sort.
Not open source but DaVinci Resolve is the best editor around and supports Linux.
@petsoi Beautifully written perspective; the
KDE Activitiesbit of that was my favorite! Multiple workspaces on a single monitor is probably one of my most advocated features. I’m telling someone about it at least once a week, even if it’s just showin em how to use the cut-down one on their windows machine.God I hate what the modern Internet does to my brain. I had to double check if that laptop is AI generated
It’s such an old laptop to feature in an article. I even opened the image URL to see if it’s one How to Geek just had on file they used. The photo was uploaded last year
I feel like Linux would be easier to pick up and use for a non power user starting from scratch like my mother-in-law. It’s so much easier to download programs with the package manager and settings are so much easier to navigate
I find it amazing that so many distros with volunteers manage to curate a vast software ecosystem, reasonably successfully and yet some of the largest companies on the planet, worth more than $1T each cannot manage to find the resources to do it efficiently.
Imagine firing up a cmd or ps prompt in Windows and tying in: msiexec install adobe-hipster-app and it just works.
Have you tried Chocolatey? https://chocolatey.org/. It’s a package manager for Windows and works great, much like brew for Mac. Or, if you prefer portable installation of programs without requiring admin, try Scoop (https://scoop.sh/). Of course, I’d rather use paru or yay on Arch, but I’m glad these options exist.
I find it hilarious that Microsoft even suggests these tools on their own GitHub page for the Windows Terminal.
If I knew how to “sudo” on Windows then requiring admin wouldn’t be so bad.
And to use the computer without being bombarded by ads
Helped my SO fix Sims 4 on her W11 laptop recently; lock screen ads, start menu ads, pre-installed bloatware begging for money
I even asked how she deals with all of that and she basically said “I dunno it just does that, if you can make it stop that’d be nice ig but just get Sims to worl for now”
Needless to say I got Sims 4 to work (removing cachedir did the trick) AND uninstalled the bloatware and turned off ad-related settings
I’d honestly have proposed (if they don’t need programs that only run on windows) “we could put linux on it and that should fix these issues” and put Linux Mint or Fedora on it (better if you choose not them unless they really want to deal with all the choices, most likely they won’t wnt to tho) and just tell them the basics of how to install software and stuff.
I have jokingly mentioned I’d fix it by just installing Linux
I wonder when that stops being a joke
I’d say now’s the time, by now I mean as soon as it’s appropriate.
I was once asked if I could crack a password of a windows PC in an office cause the guy who used to work there no longer remembers it and they wanted to reuse the old PC. I asked if they need to recover any data, if they used any software that would be incompatible with Linux (not like this but directly mentioning software and asked for a list of stuff they use) and then told them it would simply be easier to install Linux on the thing, not only it’s easier but since it’s an old machine running windows 7 it’s also more secure and the computer will perform well.
During the installation we found out that the computer is glorified junk, took ages to even attempt to format the disk to ext4. Still got to install Linux Mint on another one of their computers tho, big success.
It’ll come back.
They’ve never come back for me.
