• Crikeste@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    No matter who is elected, the genocide of Palestinians will continue. And since that’s the case, why doesn’t America deserve to suffer?

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      The nearby countries of Egypt, Turkey, Lebanon etc could all do way more than Biden. They don’t accept refugees. They don’t send food. They don’t offer peacekeepers etc. But instead of blaming the countries in the area you’re blaming a country on the other side of the world. We aren’t responsible for everything that happens everywhere in the world.

      And since that’s the case, why doesn’t America deserve to suffer?

      Do you not get how much worse a right wing government in America would be for Palestine? The previous terrible choice of Sex Offender Trump voters, George Bush is responsible for Hamas taking over Gaza.

      The responsibility for Gaza is as follows.

      1. Hamas

      2. Israel’s terrible prime minister

      3. Egypt doing nothing

      4. Turkey doing nothing

      5. Lebanon, Jordan, and all the other nearby countries doing nothing.

      6. George W Bush ® letting Hamas take over Gaza

      7. Gazans over 30 for voting for Hamas

      8. Britain and France for their colonialist setup of the region.

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        They dont send food because Israel blocks it. In fact the aid to Gaza on land is mainly coming through Jordan and then gets pillaged by Isareli terrorists supported by the government. When Egypt wanted to send humanitarian aid in November through Rafah crossing, Israel bombed it repeatedly.

        Meanwhile the US is literally supplying the very weapons that are murdering the people in Gaza. And even when the US claims to provide humanitarian aid, like with that Pier they built it ends up in reality being used to facilitate massacres like in Nusereit, using aid trucks as disguise for Israeli genocide forces.

        I don’t know what you are smoking, but it most be strong if you believe Israel could act without the massive support and endorsement by the US government. Israel is primarily to blame as they are directly committing the genocide and then comes the US as the are delivering the weapons and providing diplomatic cover, even threatening international courts that want Israeli war criminals to face justice.

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          They dont send food because Israel blocks it.

          Egypt had their own gate into Gaza until very recently. And Gaza has a giant coastline. That’s why Biden built a port in Gaza. So he could send in food aid.

          Israel bombed it repeatedly.

          Nope. Israel cannot bomb Egypt without starting a major war.

          like with that Pier

          Biden’s humanitarian aid pier can be used by any country. How come Turkey isn’t using it to send aid? Lebanon? Anybody in Arab land?

          using aid trucks as disguise for Israeli genocide forces.

          So you want all food aid to Gaza stopped, because of Hamas Crime Syndicate propaganda? Sounds like you yourself are supporting genocide whether you know it or not.

          Israel could act without the massive support and endorsement by the US government

          Dude Israel literally defied a UN Security Council resolution from Biden to stop the war. What the heck are you smoking?

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            Nope. Israel cannot bomb Egypt without starting a major war.

            Israel bombed the Gazan side of the crossing, destroying the roads and making it unpassable for trucks. Also Israel killed two Egyptian soldiers when taking over the crossing.

            Dude Israel literally defied a UN Security Council resolution from Biden to stop the war. What the heck are you smoking?

            As the US continued to send billions in bombs to Israel and will soon host Netanyahu despite the ICC seeking him as war criminal. You know that the UN resolutions only work if the powerful countries enforce them? Guess who would have to enforce it by just not sending weapons. But he still does. Judge actions, not words.

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              Israel bombed the Gazan side of the crossing, destroying the roads and making it unpassable for trucks.

              Then Egypt could have sent soldiers in. In fact, I bet Israel would have been totally fine if Egypt simply took over the entire Gaza area. The entire war could end tomorrow if Egypt simply agreed to do that.

              Guess who would have to enforce it by just not sending weapons.

              Nobody. Previous aid has nothing at all to do with implementing the UN ceasefire resolution. Biden already stopped sending any types of weapons that could be used in Gaza because Israel has a terrible PM. Israel can buy any weapons it wants on the international market. The idea that the US could magically stop the war is nonsense, as is the idea that Biden has done nothing, as is the idea that the countries in the region do not have the chief power and responsibility to do what they could.

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      why doesn’t America deserve to suffer?

      Voting as Fire Extinguisher

      by Kyle Tran Myhre

      When the haunted house catches fire: a moment of indecision.

      The house was, after all, built on bones, and blood, and bad intentions.

      Everyone who enters the house feels that overwhelming dread, the evil that perhaps only fire can purge.

      It’s tempting to just let it burn.

      And then I remember: there are children inside.

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      Because we should be working to minimize suffering wherever we can. No one deserves to suffer these fates, and I don’t want them to expand. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of something better.

      Why shouldn’t we fight genocide however we can to prevent more suffering? Giving up and letting them genocide even more just tells me that genocide isn’t an important topic in one’s mind, no matter what their words say.