• TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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    The truth will never be reductionist.

    collective responsibility of the western world order.

    ie- capitalist imperialism.

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      Such a bog-standard whataboutism that I couldn’t even be bothered to roll my eyes anymore. Thanks for showing your true colors.

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          Those colours doesn’t seem to go all the way through though. Scratch them for a moment and you will see the colours of the Russian flag appearing.

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            Yep. I’m against all capitalist imperialism, even China’s. It’s almost like those supporting NATO aren’t really socialists.

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              I’ve read those people have a thought called “critical support” where they’re critical against NATO but it’s the only logical lifeline for Ukraine and Europe to end the war some day and prevent similar situations.

              Personally; I guess that’s a theory, who knows 🤷

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                I’m gonna do my best to communicate my reasoning.

                1. Socialists are anti capitalist.
                2. NATO is an arm to preserve capitalism.
                3. Socialists cannot support NATO. Despite what Vaush says.

                The “critical support” theory is based on the assumption that nations wouldn’t come to Ukraine’s aid if NATO didn’t exist. Some believe that America and by extension NATO, created the conditions that preceded the conflict. Capitalism tends to create problems that it then has to solve. There was no salient reason for NATO to continue its existence after the fall of the Soviet Union, other than to maintain US hegemony.