Secret Service agents rushed former President Donald Trump off the stage after he fell to the ground at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Loud bangs were heard before Trump fell. Agents then helped him stand, and he had blood on his face. He was yelling back to the crowd and raised his fist. He was then taken to a vehicle and evacuated from the scene.

Another thread: https://lemmy.world/post/17530960?scrollToComments=true

    • TheDannysaur@lemmy.world
      31·
      4 months ago

      This is the dumbest shit and we need to fucking grow up a bit. These “questions” are asinine and not that hard to explain.

      1. Not denying the incident was reported, but there’s a heavy insinuation here that this was set up or manufactured. If so… They needed an entire Secret Service detail, local event police and everyone standing by to be in on it. A couple hundred people are going to be involved and no one leaks it?

      2. “Supposed” gunman. I like how you pivot from “this is probably set up” to “ok even if it was real Trump is capable of worse”

      3. Again, the insinuation of an inside job here. We’re going to involve a hundred or more people and no one thought it would be a problem to kill a bystander? Or the gunman was so good he killed a specific plant? And they had a 100% success rate… No one heard the plan and thought “oh this is a bad idea” and spoke out about it?

      4. Big difference between deleting text messages and MURDERING AN AMERICAN to further a political agenda.

      5. Yes. Things happen all the time. Trump people are saying this is to distract from Biden being inept. There’s always a convenient time.

      6. Yes you dumbshit he was concerned about his hat because they already had the all clear. The shooter got taken out in seconds. They wouldn’t have moved Trump. And they all were saying it was all clear. Also have you ever seen people in an absolute panic? Not the most rational state. Same thing with his shoes. That’s ALSO why he took the photo op. They all dove on top of him. They figured out the shooter’s location and took him down before Trump even got up.

      There’s pictures of the fucking bullet in flight. So either that was ALSO manufactured (a member of the press willingly heard the plan ahead of time and doctored a photo or they actually shot a bullet inches away from Trumps head AND captured it). But no let’s just get Trump, a bumbly ass fuck to orchestrate this perfectly. I’m sure he had it a planned to go down, and everyone covered him and he pulled out a razor blade, cut his ear, and put it away, all perfectly executed and no one caught anything on camera from any of the dozens of angles.

      This shit is so fucking stupid and I’m so sick of hearing about it. These points all rely on the most ass backwards way of thinking where dozens of people are in on this conspiracy and relies on all of them bring cool with killing someone to make it good for Trump.

      Get this shit outta here. This doesn’t deserve the pixels on the screen used to illuminate this nonsense. Be a fucking grown up. We’re going to have to figure out a real way to beat Trump, not pretend this was some false flag bullshit. Accept reality. Be a goddamn adult.

      I’m not even saying you’re wrong for questioning, but I am saying you are wrong because the sheer volume of things that would need to occur for this theory to be even remotely possible is so ridiculous, I would consider aliens an equally plausible situation.

    • Pretzilla@lemmy.world
      4·
      4 months ago

      His shoe obsession because they have yuge lifts in them propping up his strong man image.

      The red hat thing because yes, his USSS detail is swimming in maga 24/7 so of course they grab the hat.

      And they are all radioed up and heard the call out that the shooter was down, thus it was ok to move him.

      It’s far fetched to call it a false flag op. And gives the buffoons way to much credit.

      It’s just fascists being fascists

        • Pretzilla@lemmy.world
          1·
          4 months ago

          I like the way you roll - let’s see how it plays out.

          But I think we need to be careful to not add lies and nonsense to the shit fountain of same that spewes forth from maga world.

          And yea, every maga accusation is a confession, so we need to pair those up.

          • Snapz@lemmy.world
            1·
            4 months ago

            Yeah, the bad news is, it’s just all garbage either way. No winners here. If it was manufactured in any way, hold out some hope that they are desperate and stupid enough to be exposed, but as we’ve learned, even hard evidence is probably just not enough to mean anything anymore… If it was, he wouldn’t be the nominee on that side after literally working to end American democracy so that he wouldn’t be called a “loser”.

  • mercano@lemmy.world
    703·
    4 months ago

    While I hate what this guy represents politically, the last thing this country needs is Trump getting turned into a martyr.

      • mercano@lemmy.world
        91·
        4 months ago

        I want the man rejected by the country and defeated at the ballot box, not turned into a martyr that’ll inspire another generation of MTGs, Boberts, and DeSantises.

    • otp@sh.itjust.works
      20·
      4 months ago

      If he dies of natural causes, half the conspiracies will be that he isn’t dead or he reincarnated, and the other half will be that he was killed by Biden or trans antifa pedo activists

  • teamevil@lemmy.world
    335·
    4 months ago

    Funny CNN is reporting he collapsed and other outlets are reporting gunshots.

    I’m far more concerned about Trump’s edging of violent white supremacy groups that have repeatedly threatened violence if they don’t get their way, makes me think of it was Biden probably some magat shooting because they’re dumb as a sack of uneducated incestuous rocks. Since this is Trump I’m inclined to believe he actually fell and they’re playing it off that it was gunshots to hide the fact Trump is unstable mentally and physically.

  • homura1650@lemm.ee
    102·
    4 months ago

    He didn’t “collapse” or “fall”. He reached for his ear (where he was hit) and had a general “WTF is going on” face, then after a few seconds, ducked behind the podium as secret service yelled at him to get down.

    He seemed able to walk away on his own, although it is hard to tell exactly since his human shields might have been supporting him. As he was leaving, he was well enough to project an image of good spirits and raise a fist, seemingly getting into a bit of a fight with his secret service, who seemed to want him to stay small and hidden behind them.

    • nifty@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      4 months ago

      I know, I saw the news just as it coming out and at that point there wasn’t a mention of gun shots

  • Neato@ttrpg.networkEnglish
    921·
    4 months ago

    Great. They made him a martyr and he’s still alive to capitalize on it. Worst case scenario. Fucking fuck.

  • JimSamtanko@lemm.ee
    349·
    4 months ago

    Nothing that shitbag does has ever been honest. I would put it past him to have staged this shit. His could have had something in his hand to make his ear look bloody.

    And there’s no way anyone will be allowed to investigate this.

    • nifty@lemmy.worldOP
      253·
      4 months ago

      Republicans may get pity elected then. No martyrs, thanks. I really actually hope no one got hurt

    • Hubi@feddit.org
      21·
      4 months ago

      At least? If this turns out to be real, the photo alone will hand him the election.

      • xantoxis@lemmy.world
        19·
        4 months ago

        I was skeptical but in the photos there’s no injury to the side of his head. Just seems incredibly unlikely that a bullet would clip his ear and hit nothing else whatsoever. So yeah, an injury falling does seem kinda likely.

      • dezmd@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        4 months ago

        That was my first thought, hit up that ‘other’ site and saw a video on /r/interstingasfuck and it looks like he grabbed his ear immediately after first two(?) shots so I think he was actually grazed.