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    Grand.

    I wonder what the shooter’s politics are.

    Liberal: commie assassin

    Conservative or other: oh, just mentally ill.

    E: shot looked like it came from the left. I wonder if the shooter was outside the rally area at a distance. Anybody else hit?

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      You’re only allowed to be violent if you’re a right winger. If you’re a leftie, the voting booths and protest signs are over there.

      Good luck.

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    CNN is confirming gunfire.

    Edit CNN is quoting local authorities confirming the shooter + 1 attendee are both dead.

    2nd attendee severely injured.

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        Yup. CNN interviewed a witness who stated one man was shot in the head and killed instantly while a woman hit in the forearm and hand.

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    Trump’s statement on Truth Social:

    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump

    “I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”

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      It just feels wrong coming from the person who enacted Jan 6th. He caused something just like this and someone died.

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      It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country.

      Is it though? There have already been 290 mass shootings in this country this year, so far. And this shooting does not even count among them.

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          It depends on where you draw the line for “attempt” - the Secret Service isn’t an exactly candid organization (to put it lightly) and the media/public doesn’t spend much time focusing on the foiled plots they do learn about (insert your opinion as to the “why?” here). My own assumption is that the threat vectors against those that are granted Secret Service protection are probably numerous and coming from many different directions.

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          No it isn’t. Trump is a candidate, not a sitting President, so it doesn’t count.

          All this shit happening is bad enough; can we at least not prematurely crown him?!

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              “Afforded protections” is one thing, but that’s not the point. The point is that I refuse to let this count as a “Presidential assassination attempt” because he isn’t the goddamn President right now; Biden is. And you shouldn’t count it as such either – the only ones who would are MAGA election-denier shitheads.

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    Okay, this settles it: Biden is gonna be the nominee. Nobody else on the Dem side is gonna want to be the sacrificial lamb going up against Trump after today.

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      Would you stop with this shit. There is no scenario where the fact that you are so hated that somebody wants to kill you is a good thing.

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    This is just going to further guarantee his victory. It’s fucking over. This country is done.

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        C’mon dude, just post your demoralizing articles and give it a rest - there is no need to further betray your intent with additional words.

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            Where is that not the case when talking about politics anywhere? Theater and life are coiled up around eachother and writhing, grasping at one another’s throats; whether lovers’ kisses, enemies’ venom is the intent, usually one comes out on top. In your good faith opinion, what will it mean when Trump loses anyway? What is the auteur going for in that scenario?

            (In keeping with good faith I’ll disclose my personal bias that I would prefer a different candidate to oppose Trump but that I also think almost any of them can get it done after Georgia, Georgia, and… Georgia where the wrong politician was topping everything by every conventional understanding or metric.)

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      It’s horrifying that our best hope is that a MAGA nutter kills Biden in retaliation and Harris wins in a landslide because of it.

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      From abroad, for the love of everything please go vote. Everything in the US seems to leak out and global warming is well, global.

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        My vote is irrelevant. I live in a deep blue stronghold. Nothing I can personally do is going to change what is coming, and the path that we are on. It is time to prepare for the worst.

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          Never irrelevant! Don’t find out the hard way that you may be wrong about that. Keep the stronghold strong

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      I don’t see it, the lines have been firmly drawn for years. The maga crowd will vote for him regardless of anything and the rest of us wouldn’t piss on him to put out a fire.

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      Sounds pretty dramatic. With the new cycle the way it is, it will be forgotten in a month.

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      That’s my gut reaction too. It’s done. That fucking photo where Trump stood up and did the fist pump with the blood on his face and the American flag in the background:

      https://i.headtopics.com/images/2024/7/14/timescolonist/trump-rally-shooting-is-being-investigated-as-an-trump-rally-shooting-is-being-investigated-as-an-56235AE0556FFDA67127295A88A54C8B.webp

      There’s no beating that. That’s literally like a movie poster. Whether Biden stays or goes, I really don’t think it matters now.

      Also as an aside, I don’t mean this as a compliment to Trump. I think he’s a raging piece of shit and I hope he loses. But it’s elections are all about perception and I really don’t see Biden doing anything to top this.

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        You said it better than I could have done myself. It is time to start preparing the resistance now. Civil disobedience is the only way forward.

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      Ah yes, I wanted to vote blue, but now that the felon’s ear got shot, I’ll vote for the fashists.

      This is US politics and it makes sense.

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        No, it’s more like:

        “I wasn’t going to vote because I don’t care about or follow politics. Now I see they are trying to kill this guy so I am going to vote for him because clearly the powers that be want him gone. So, he must be doing something to fight the system like JFK.”

        Nobody who was going to vote Dem is changing their vote. It’s all the people who weren’t going to vote that now will because they either think he is badass for surviving an assassination attempt, or because of the web of new conspiracy narratives that are sure to be born from this that further serve to frame Trump as the savior of the common man from the clutches of the evil deep state.

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          I am going to vote for him because clearly the powers that be want him gone.

          A 20 year old kid is “the powers that be”? LOL. Maybe they will think instead “Wow Trump must be a huge dick if people hate him so much they are trying to kill him”.

          he is badass for surviving an assassination attempt

          He didn’t look like a badass at all. He looked like someone who had been bloodied because he was so deeply hated.

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            You are evaluating based on your perspective, and not the perspective of a middle America normie. That’s the problem.

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              You are falling for the lame Treason Trump tactic of “spin every negative as somehow a positive”. Loser Trump gets convicted of a crime? That’s good! Sex Offender Trump is found guilty of rape? That’s good! Treason Trump is so widely hated by Americans that people want to kill him? That’s good!. Never get inside a conservative’s head if you are going to come out with a loser defeatist attitude.

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                I’m not falling for shit. I’m evaluating the reality of the average 95 IQ NPC that is going to vote in this election. No offense, but the fact you can’t understand that isn’t my problem.

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                  I’m evaluating the reality of the average 95 IQ NPC that is going to vote in this election.

                  No, your falling for Treason Trump’s standard propaganda tactic of “pretend a bad thing that happened is a good thing”. The average person does not think that people hating you enough to kill you is a good thing.

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    Lots of people seem keen to jump to this being staged. That makes zero sense: Trump was already winning before this, especially with Biden (his preferred opponent) looking to hang on to the nomination.

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      Trump was already winning before this

      Do you just not understand how elections work? You don’t “win” before votes are cast.

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      conspiracy theorist in me sees several venues where it is Very beneficial to POTUS45 to stage this:

      • finally come out as victim
      • frame Biden/CIA/FBI as villains
      • come out as “defiant” hero and rally support to the point where it’s a landslide win, where he would be able to go after anybody and anything he doesn’t like.

      more wicked stuff comes to mind but I think above is sufficient . Fact that bullet grazed him and nobody around him in a tight setting is kind of strange, with his bravado on display with fist shaking. One can only dream for this election campaign video to be run on repe 24/7 on fox and other outlets, giving him more air time, and now that Biden asked everyone to read project2025 entire nation will be watching nothing but POTUS45. Still could be some morron that didn’t get his signature at the rally pulling out his Beretta…

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        There is no scenario where this helps Treason Trump. Now the entire world knows that Convicted Criminal and Sex Offender Treason Trump is so widely hated that people literally want to kill him. And now Treason Trump knows it too.

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        Witness statement was that another attendee was shot in the head and killed and a 2nd in the forearm and hand.

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          sounds like, indeed bystanders been hit according to latest information. I still believe that POTUS45 would be OK sacrificing any number of people as long as it gets him power. No evidence of his involvement but entire story “smells”

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    When he yells “fight”, what does he mean to fight for? Fight against freedom? I wonder the same thing when it comes to Qbert and Empty-G. Fight? What are they fighting for, exactly? More tax cuts for billionaires? More special privileges for xtians?

    I was told today that someone we know is going to vote for donnie - because “economy”. What. The. Actual. Fuck. They said that the economy was better under donnie. I just can’t even. And this is someone that will be a target under fascist rule.

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    All the mass casualty events we have to suffer and here we have a psychopath who can’t aim. Such a shame.