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      Biden is too old but you want to pick Bernie? I love the guy and donated to his campaigns, but he is not the Biden replacement.

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            Bernie is only 4 years older than trump. Tbh, they all should have retired years ago, but crying about age while supporting a senile geriatric is just as baseless as the rest of their grievances.

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              You’re not wrong. But Trump is far more coherent than Biden. It’s all lies, but they were coherent lies at the debate.

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                Trump has never been coherent, not once in his life.

                Remember this?

                “I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things. I know what I’m doing and I listen to a lot of people, I talk to a lot of people and at the appropriate time I’ll tell you who the people are. But my primary consultant is myself and I have a good instinct for this stuff.”

                — Donald Trump, March 16, 2016, after being asked who he consults with about foreign policy

                Or this?

                “My uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, okay, very smart. The Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, okay, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right — who would have thought?), but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.”

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              I mean, ultimately, I’m voting for whoever the democrats put on the ticket for that very reason. However, I would really like to see someone who has a chance of winning be on that ticket instead of just watching the train wreck happen in front of us.

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                i dont want someone that old either. unfortunately, he is most likely to beat trump. can’t see harris winning cause she is a woman and a minority and this country is still very racist/sexist. i also predict biden would step down shortly after 2nd term. worst case of biden winning is he dies in office of old age

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                  Worst case of Biden is him losing like the polls indicate. Harris is not a suitable replacement either like you said. But there are plenty of others.

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    Michelle Obama would honestly just win by default, but I’d probably pick Whitmer realistically.

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        I’m not American and actually don’t know much about him but aside from the one glaring topic in that wiki, he sounds ok to me? Curious as to what shitty things he’s done if anyone feels like sharing.

        Editing to say: the one glaring topic is a pretty fucking important topic in my books, but I don’t imagine any other American politician with a chance having a different opinion on the matter

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          AFAIK he’s not done anything shity, which is why I want to keep him as my governor. He’s smart, dedicated, and has a good head on his shoulders.

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      We probably aren’t lucky enough to get three in a row.

      Also, he reminds me of David Rosen from Scandal, and it already feels too much like we’re living in that dystopia.

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    Pritzker has been awesome in IL. He would be an amazing president. Probably the most progressive of anyone in that list.

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    No Pete Buttigieg? Probably just as corporate as the other ones, but seems like he’d make a semi-decent pick.

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      ✅ Military experience. We may need a leader who knows first hand the danger they are putting our young men and women in.

      ✅ Governing experience (if you can be a community organizer, peanut farmer, or reality TV star, being a mayor is absolutely legitimate experience)

      ✅ Federal experience

      ✅ I’m gonna say it- in hindsight he managed the rail union strike amazingly well. He avoided a supply chain catastrophy, then a few months later got the union the sick time they need. He had his cake and ate it too.

      ✅ Medicare for those who want it is a realistic plan. It’s it perfect? No. But it’s better and more importantly can pass through Congress.

      I fully expect comments to fully support this take without any criticism for a center left candidate who doesn’t plan on tearing down capitalism brick by brick./s

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        All of that and he does SO much better than any one else I’ve seen on interviews. If he isn’t president this year he’ll run in 2028.

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        Also, I’m gonna say it, I’d love to vote for a gay man. I’d love to see the GOP desperately try to bite their tongue knowing that the overwhelming majority of Americans wouldn’t support them saying “don’t vote for the f*****” which we all know they’d want to say so damn hard. You know they’d end up slipping up and showing their true colors which could help turn people away.

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    As a non-USAmerican I only know Michelle Obama from that list. But if you want real change and young voters, get AOC on the ticket. I bet you that’ll wake people up. She’s media savvy and could probably get the entire tiktok+insta viewership to campaign for her. The facebook folk probably less so, and the redditors 50/50. She would need a male vice president though. Two women in the US ain’t making it this year.

    But honestly, I want Trump to win. The world needs a good shake up and divorce from the USA. New alliances have to be made and the reliance on US tech and media has to stop. I know it would hurt USAmericans, but it’d be the best for the world to stop following the USA as if hypnotised.

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      You’re delusional if you think it would only hurt Americans. America would become EVERYONE’S problem in a big way.

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        I doubt they can become a problem in 4 years. Come election time (2028), there will be a civil war and it’ll implode as Trump tries to hold on to power and become president for a 3rd time. He’s unpredictable, but one country against the world? They lost countless war games.

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            I didn’t say there wouldn’t be problems 🤨 There will be, but we’ll come out of it better than before. The rest of the world that is. The US, not so much.

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      Already happened 2016. It was awful. Hoped we’d never be here again.

      Unless you’ve been hiding under a rock, you can see its influence spread over the globe. Germany recently voted hard right. Israel is a genocidal shithouse. India is Modi’s Muslim hate factory. All strutting the Putin way: oligarchs ruling & fascist division of the people spread with propaganda (RT, Fox news, Facebook & twaXtter).

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        Do you seriously think that was Trump? Nah dude, that was US media that has been infecting the world since the second world war. After Europe collapsed, the US swooped into the void and filled it with media portraying themselves as the victors and saviors. It spread USAmerican tribalism far and wide.

        Then social media came along and Europe still hadn’t caught up nor recognised the power of media. Investments in film, TV, music, and internet were, and still are, ridiculously small compared to US investments. The internet just helped US media percolate deeper into European society. Now it’s on everbody’s phones and is an endless barrage.

        Of course fossil fuel companies have a large role to play too. They helped mold a world focused on their product, which fucks up the environment. And tech companies play an even bigger role today, exploiting poor countries that were kneecapped by the US by destroying their democracies (or attempts at democracies) decades ago.

        People want to flee and Europe comparatively easier to reach than the US, so they tried and still try to escape their situations. That of course gives right wing parties fodder to spread their hatred and blame a defenseless scapegoat.

        I’m not saying the US is the root of all evil, I’m saying they play a monumental part in it. Trump is just an accelerator to a possible decoupling of Europe and other economies from the US.

        We all know the DNC is controlled by corporate interests. They aren’t protecting the population. All they are protecting is their investments. Had they cared about the people, they’d never had thrown their support behind a second term for Biden. He too old 4 years ago and is way too old now. If the vote is won by a democrat, and that will only happen if the DNC takes a fucking stick out of their ass and force Biden to drop out ASAP, that will just mean another 4 years where the US can keep semi-good relations with the world. The world won’t have a reset button.

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    Pritzker has done a good job here for us, but I don’t know if I’d want him as president. I hear good things about this Gretchen lady, even if she has an unenviable name. I’d have to do some actual research first, and I’m not doing that right now.

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    Unless they run another primary, Kamala is the best choice IMHO. Already tied to the Biden ticket, so it would feel less like the DNC is hand-picking whoever they want as a candidate. She polls well. Can get creative with the VP.

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    Pete Buttigeg/AOC dream team.

    Young, wicked smart, progressive enough.

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      The McKinsey consultant? The guy managing the Boeing stuff currently? I guess he couldn’t be too much worse than the current situation but why would you proactively choose him?

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        Because he could talk his way out of a pair of handcuffs and a locked cage, and I think we need someone to highlight the stupidity coming from the right and he can do it. Let AOC be the power behind the office and keep him in line.