• IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    You wouldn’t be asking this question if it was a Torah instead.

    Can you expand on this assumption for me?

    Yes, burning a Koran in front of Muslims is a dick move but it shouldn’t be against the law in a secular Western country.

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      1 year ago

      There would be a justified outcry if a Torah was burned in front of a synagogue. The instigators would quickly be villefied and called Nazis. At the minimum, no one would be actively defending it.

      It shouldn’t have to be against the law, but people are abusing to the point of starting riots. It’s disturbing the peace. I lump this in with following people and screaming racial slurs constantly at the top of your lungs. Freedom of speech only goes so far, I’m okay with banning clear hate speech and similar actions.

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        1 year ago

        It makes no difference to me if someone is burning a Torah, Koran, Bible, or any other religious text, as long as it’s their property they can do whatever they want with it.

        I think we’re placing too much emphasis on the person being provocative and acting like a dick and not nearly enough on the people who resort to violence over these provocations.

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          1 year ago

          What about burning crosses on someone’s lawn, or flying Nazi flags? Lmao, they could just not burn the damn book. Usually, people being dicks don’t have a army of people coming to their defence.

          Obviously you don’t care, you aren’t the one being personally attacked so you can just overlook it. But if this happened in a vaccum, you wouldn’t be defending the Nazi burning a Torah infront of a synagogue yet here we are.

          Look, I hate the policies in the middle east as well, but I’m able to differentiate between individuals and governments. This is Muslim hate and nothing else.

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              1 year ago

              No one is upset about people burning a Koran in their backyard firepit. The example is very similar to what is happening.

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              1 year ago

              To build on @Jaded’s analogy,

              What about burning a cross on your own front lawn where your Black neighbours have a clear view of it through their own front windows?

          • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world
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            1 year ago

            You should stop trying to misrepresent my position, it doesn’t help you at all.

            If an asshole is trying to get a rise by burning things the worst thing to do is to give them what they want. Where I live we have an old guy who regularly flies the confederate flag. He’s a sick old fuck who only wants attention, or better yet, a chance to shoot someone if they try and take the flag down. What can be done?

            The only solution that makes sense is to ignore the loser and not give him the attention he so badly needs.