• thejml@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Thing is, the poor aren’t running bitcoin miner farms. Crypto doesn’t change anything but traceability of the funds, letting the rich get even richer.

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      3 months ago

      Yeah riding the bubble let a couple of nerds and early investors maybe take advantage of a little economic mobility, like, incidentally. But those days are long passed now. Like you said, it’s rigged in favour of entrenched capital, just like everything else now.

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        3 months ago

        BTC is steady last few months at 60k, if you purchased last year, your investment is up 3x. If you bought 2 years ago at the peak, you’re up a few %, which still beats international inflation

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          3 months ago

          Yes if you meet those criteria and cash out right now. Most people I to crypto will hold though.

          Why? Because that’s the narrative pushed on the community over and over and over - hodl never sell.

          Why? Because if everyone sells, all the people manipulating the market like Tether and their buddies lose their money. Fair play to those that can make a bit of money, but unless you’re already rich, are running the market, or fine with creating a shitcoin to rug people, crypto is not going to make most average people rich at all.

          Just another way for the already wealthy to fuck you over.

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            3 months ago

            Most assets work that way, if everyone sold Nividia stock then it would tank as well. Most things outside of food and shelter only have value due to our collective belief. Diamond and water paradox is constant in society

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                3 months ago

                I think an asset is anything that can be converted to liquid, so that depends if you think crypto is liquid or not, which probably depends on location

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              3 months ago

              I guess some people have that stance, but it’s a currency. It’s supposed to be boring and not thought about much. It’s not like most people care about antique and rare coin collections, but some people do, most people just spend and save their money

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                3 months ago

                Calling it a currency is generous. I know it’s meant to be, but let’s be honest - you’re not buying the majority, or probably even any, everyday goods or tech with your BTC are you? Most people certainly aren’t. And most BTC owners certainly aren’t. They’re holding to the moon.

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                  3 months ago

                  If my local grocery story would accept it, I would. It’s a compatibility issue, which all technology is tested this way. Having 5G towers in the 1900s would have been a bummer, but today, somewhat standard. Crypto will need to pass this test if it’ll survive

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                    3 months ago

                    Do you know what a blockchain is? It’s not cutting edge technology at all.

                    You’re right though, there is a compatibility problem.The BTC network is designed to be inefficient and it’s slow as fuck. Why would we replace a fast and pretty efficient system with a slow one that also makes your money unrecoverable if you make a typo?

                    That’s not even touching on how fun it would be to buy your groceries when BTC crashes 20% overnight.

                    Or how ridiculously convoluted using crypto is in general. And how easy it is to get hacked, scammed, rug pulled.

                    It’s complete fantasy mate. I’m guessing you’re deep in the crypto space from your comments, which are the same old non arguements over and over, so no one ever talks about any potential negatives. That in itself should tell you everything you need to know.

                    I’m not saying you can’t make money with crypto, but it’s a casino and nothing more. The rest is just feel good bullshit sold to you to make you buy and hold, generally.

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            3 months ago

            No, it’s like any other currency minus it has a fixed supply. So use it, since inflation is eating away any currency with a limitless supply

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              3 months ago

              But deflation pushes people not to spend their money and crypto with a fixed supply is in fact deflationary since the accessible supply goes down as people lose access to their wallet for one reason or another.

              Also, crypto value and crypto prices of items are based on the comparable fiat value so yes, getting in at the right time makes a huge difference.

              In the end crypto bros just make it so there’s still rich people at the top, they’re just not necessarily the same ones.

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      3 months ago

      Traceability might be nice since the black market is estimated around 20T USD. Cuts out bad actors which means no fraud, and no hidden inflation since we can see the quantity compared to USD which the Federal Reserve doesn’t even know

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      3 months ago

      That’s a common misconception. Most cryptocurrencies (except XMR) actually increase the traceability of funds compared to traditional payments. Bitcoin really isn’t that great for privacy as some crypto enthousiasts say. It’s one of those ridicolous “advantages” that prove that most are just hypemen with no idea about how it actually works. </rant>