Donald Trump is proving he’s racist and stupid with his latest post.

In a Truth Social post Thursday morning, Donald Trump appeared to suggest, again, that presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris isn’t really Black, ramping up his identity-based attacks to the horror of those in his party who consider racism a losing electoral strategy.

Earlier in the week, many GOP strategists, including in the Trump camp, worried that attacks on Harris’s race and gender—which seemed all but inevitable considering Trump’s history of racism and misogyny—would pose a serious liability for the campaign. “We hope he doesn’t act like a crazy racist and sexist person, but we can’t control him,” a source close to the campaign told The Washington Post.

These hopes were quickly dashed in the course of Trump’s interview with the National Association of Black Journalists Wednesday afternoon, in which the candidate claimed that, for years, Vice President Kamala Harris “was Indian all the way, and then suddenly she made a turn and she became a Black person.”

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    These hopes were quickly dashed in the course of Trump’s interview with the National Association of Black Journalists Wednesday afternoon, in which the candidate claimed that, for years, Vice President Kamala Harris “was Indian all the way, and then suddenly she made a turn and she became a Black person.”

    Oh, so Trump is accusing her of what he is guilty of. He would change his ethnicity from Swedish to Irish to German depending on who was around.

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    I honestly think the more likely explanation is that he doesn’t realize Kamala Harris and Nikki Hayley are different people. They’re both just “that woman I’m running against” to him.

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      More predictable than dumb, in that in any given situation the man will pick the absolutely worst choice available. Every single time. Even when that choice hurts him.

      When his options are (a) pick the right choice, (b) pick a bad choice, ( c) do nothing, or (d) pick something you didn’t even fathom because the idea was just so bad that even the biggest moron would dismiss it out of hand, he will go with D. Every single time. Even if it hurts himself. Thankfully, the man can’t get out of his own way 95% of the time, and I firmly believe that making even something resembling a rational choice even on the most basic of options would cause him physical pain.

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      Whatever the answer to that question is, the real answer is “dumber than that.”

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      He’s starting a rhetoric. He gaslights and soon there’ll be a bunch of Americans caught up in her origins and misleading representation of race. And you’ll wonder, “How the fuck did that actually stick?”

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        Will there? Maybe the racist ones who would never be voting for her anyway. Good, let them waste their time with it.

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        Yep, it’s just the new talking point from their supreme leader. It was “Sleepy Biden” before, now it’s “opportunistic race swapping Harris” (he is better with stupid names so he might come up with something more catchy, but that is the general direction).

        They will gobble it up like all the shit they parrot all the time.

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          I had a realisation. Might be true; probably isn’t. But I have the feeling Trump read The Art of War.

          Many of his actions seem to come straight from that book, but from a person that didn’t comprehend it appropriately.

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      His VP pick has children who are both white and Indian, but he still can’t comprehend Harris can be black and Indian.

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      Not dumb, in the sense that he knows 70% of his base doesn’t give two shits about anything, and 10% want to see vulgar stuff because it’s entertaining.

      This is the guy who has mocked developmentally disabled people on national TV more than once, prior to winning the 2016 election, and I’m basing his reasoning after that. His fanbase is beholden to his callous asshattery

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        No, he’s legitimately dumb. He knows how to play a crowd, and covers it up a bit by rambling unlike Biden, but he’s been observably senile since like 2018, look at how disconnected his speech gets when he goes off script and starts a thought off with something he half-remembered from the news, something grandma would send you on FB, and ends it with something that hasn’t been accurate since the 80s.

        If you watch his CPAC speeches and stuff, it’s almost like there’s a conspiracy of silence around showing how bad it is. You just get wacky stories that aren’t too believable from dem-alligned media, and “everything’s fine, the 79 year old is the most stable genius ever” from conservative media.

        The recent interview with the black journalists association missed the perfect opportunity to ask him to draw a clock.

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          He knows how to play a crowd

          If they already like him, sure. He lost the ability to be entertaining to anyone else a long time ago.

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          He’s dumb, but about as dumb as a rat that figured out how to reach the cheese in the maze. He’s kind of bumbling around and took an unintentionally Socratic approach towards reaching what he wanted. There’s some rationality to all of it

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      If you know you might lose a fair fight, but you also know it doesn’t matter if you can leverage mob violence, you stoke the flames.

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        He has to be careful with that or his supporters might not be energized to vote.

        Oh how the turntables

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          This is really reductive.

          I think coverage of him before 2015 is much more enlightening. One I always point to is the Market Foolery podcasts on Trump, where (TL;DR) he tries to sell private real estate to his public company at highly inflated prices, and hyping the market to buy into this technically-not-illegal scheme.

          Thing is, he’s good at that kind of scheme. It worked! It wasn’t illegal, just basically selling a turd. The Motley Fool saw through it (and met him in person to discuss it, which is what the podcast is about) and made the only short of their career, but still, people drastically underestimate Trump’s ability to “sell” ideas that benefit him, to their detrement.

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            The guy is one of the dumbest people alive. He isn’t good at anything but fooling dumb people. He is the king of the dumb people and there are more than we thought.

            It’s not reductive. It’s factual. Quit polishing a turd. He’s a moron. He can’t even fuck a porn star and pay her without being caught. He’s so dumb he can’t hide investment lies without being caught. He can’t plan to overthrow the government without documentation.

            I know 5 year olds with more wit and social navigation.

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              “There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent.” ― Lao Tzu

              Your not acknowledging his strengths, which have absolutely gotten him this far. That’s a deadly mistake, one the Democrat part has already made far too much.

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                He’s not my adversary. He’s an asshole I would rather not exist and is the epitome of stupidity. He doesn’t have strengths. He bought fame and sucks at life. I don’t need to acknowledge him as anything other than the scum that represents more scum. And you sound like you support him more than you dislike him.

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                  I don’t support Trump. I don’t think there’s anything that could happen that would make me vote Trump instead of literally any Democratic candidate. Even that aside, I really hate narcissists.

                  But you’re living in a bubble if you don’t want to acknowledge how he got this far, and you lash out any one that tries to break it. Way too much of the Democrat party does. It’s how they lost, and could lose again.

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              I’d be interested to see your take on his prowess as a trickster as mentioned in the parent comment.


              We’d be really mad at someone who designed a 3D printed nuclear bomb and used it on our families. They might be socially inept and bad at geography and have no grasp of international affairs, so kinda dumb in some ways. They’d definitely be very evil. But when it came to nuke engineering, they’re evil & not dumb.

              I don’t worry I’m glorifying the impeached ex-president when I say “he’s good at fraud.” He has said and done many evil things, including some cunning ones. He’s dumb in some areas. Am I really polishing a turd right now by acknowledging a horrible horrible person isn’t entirely an idiot in every facet of his life, rather only most of them?


              Maybe 45’s narcissism is indeed the bigger headline. Narcissistic, evil, morally an idiot, cunning at (smart at executing) certain scams… if we just say “nope bad at everything, 100% dumb” we’re underplaying how dangerous he can be, no?

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                I’d be interested to see your take on his prowess as a trickster as mentioned in the parent comment.

                In my opinion, it’s because our systems are woefully inadequate to address even the dumbest of huckster schemes. He’s not some brilliant dude for pulling it off. He just has no morals, no ethics, and no shame. And he’s spent a lifetime instinctively removing anyone who does from his presence.

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            Another commenter pointed out that he’s so fucking stupid he stared directly at the sun when an eclipse happened. Yeah he’s not very smart.

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              I don’t think so. It’s classic Trump and fits his long pattern of behavior, of not quite lying in the technical sense while selling some kind of snake oil.

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                Couldn’t be a pattern of the people he hires and ethics he’s happy to not have? This isn’t evidence that he’s smart

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      He’s “look directly at the sun during an eclipse without eye protection” dumb. Plus he’s old, sleepy, and a felon.

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    It doesnt matter. Every Trumpet in my office is eating this up. I pulled up a picture of her Jamaican dad. Their answer was “Jamaicans aren’t black.” I really dont know how to respond to that.

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      The die-hard Trumpets are a lost cause. But stuff like this should hopefully start to peel away the other people that he actually needs in order to win.

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        Yeah, I don’t really see it helping, the people who belive him aren’t less likely to vote for someone that isn’t black. There’s no trumpers saying ‘oh I really.wanted a black woman as president, guess I’ll have to vote the racist guy instead’

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      Which is a complete waste of time on Trump’s part. She’s visibly not white AND a woman, so them not voting for her is built-in. It only has the potential to lose him some edge case voters, not gain any.

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      There are cultural differences between Afro-Caribbean people and “black” (ADOS) Americans. The trump fans might be trying to use that to drive a wedge in the Democratic Party.

      But that’s like the difference between Scottish and Irish people. They are basically the same in English history, lesser people to be conquered. Meaningless when it comes to racism.

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        Yeah I was worried I’d sound insensitive by posting that. But honestly, to this specific group, I want to just say O now skin color doesn’t matter.

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      Some other notable Jamaicans: Bob Marley, Usain Bolt, Grace Jones. I suppose your coworkers would say they’re not black either?

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    Trump is fucking weird. Dude doesn’t even understand what it’s like to have different traditions on your father and mother’s side of the fence.

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    What if … maybe he got Harris mixed up with Nikki Haley? He got Haley and Pelosi mixed up before, and Haley was his most recent opponent, in the primaries. So it wouldn’t be surprising he would say, “But she was always Indian before” if he was confused by the interviewers referring to Harris as Black while he was thinking of Haley. But he can’t admit that so he has to double down.

    That thought just now popped into my mind.

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      Normally I’d agree with you that reporting every dumb racist thought that disgorges out his face is annoying and counter-productive. But continuing this particularly inneffective tactic is good news and I’m glad to hear it.

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        No, it’s a reference to the lyrics from a Public Enemy song on their 1988 album It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back. The song addresses themes of racial inequality and systemic injustice. It’s simply referencing the notion that if a person is born half Black from one parent, the child will be deemed Black henceforth.

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    Could someone please return Trump’s big balloon? It’s about that big. Refer to the picture, about that size. Maybe a little smaller, maybe a little bigger. It could have been a beach balloon or ball.