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*Musk has spent days beefing with politicians over the far-right unrest sweeping the UK. *
Elon Musk could be summoned for a grilling by British MPs over X’s role in race riots that have rocked the U.K. over the last week, as well as his own incendiary comments about the violence.
Labour MPs Chi Onwurah and Dawn Butler, who are competing to chair parliament’s science, innovation and technology committee, both told POLITICO they’d press the billionaire X owner and other technology executives to answer questions about the role of social media platforms amid mounting unrest in the U.K.
Musk has spent days beefing with British politicians over the riots, and is locked in a war of words with Prime Minister Keir Starmer over the U.K’s handling of them. Musk on Sunday wrote “civil war is inevitable” in the U.K. and claimed that the response by U.K. police has been “one-sided."
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As they should. Online grifters should be held accountable for the lives they destroy.
I think we should strap Elon Musk to one of his rockets & launch him directly into the sun… Or maybe just like a big wall, that might be more entertaining.
Under what law would the UK govt do this though? I am not sure it’s a great idea since Musk is a private citizen and not a government actor. Would any govt then extend this precedent to any viral comment? Like the person who made the JD Vance couch comment?
OTOH, Musk is in a unique position because of his money and influence, that a normal commentator does not have. So I don’t know, but seems like a legal quagmire.
If however Musk is shown to funnel money to UK PACs persons or parties via any means, then the UK govt has a case to question him as a hostile foreign operator. But otherwise it seems like a tricky scenario. Perhaps the same legalities around the Assange case extend to this? But Assange was a sympathetic figure in many respects. I am not sure Musk has the same freedom of press and speech justifications.
I think it’s more over the fact that he runs the platform and therefore if his platform helped stoke the flames that caused this then it’s completely valid for him to be brought in to be questioned about his involvement and what X will do in the future to combat racism and misinformation.
what X will do in the future to combat racism and misinformation.
Laughable
Yeah the answer is obviously nothing cause it’s Elon but still it’s the same type of thing when the US brings in people like Zuckerberg to talk about what their platforms are doing.
Free speech in the UK does not include hate speech or inciting violence, so that’s probably all they need, doesn’t matter that he’s an individual, in fact it probably makes it much simpler since that makes it not a diplomatic issue.
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He has clearly been inciting the riots online. Treat him like all the other instigators of this and put out an arrest warrant for terrorism. He should stand in a court room and answer for his actions like everyone else, the billions shouldn’t mean he gets to talk to parliament first.
I doubt they could do it since Musky is a US citizen. I didn’t know the laws for this kind of thing though, so maybe they could with the right kind of legalese?
They have some powers, they got upset at Facebook and decided to flex a bit by sending one of the boys around, to invite one of his mates for a chat.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/nov/24/mps-seize-cache-facebook-internal-papers
The person sent was the serjeant at arms. They carry a sword. Doubt they took it out but they also carry one of the House of Commons maces, which is gold covered and jewel encrusted, about 1.5m (4.9ft) long and weighs roughly 10kg (22 lbs).
Imagine some large, pissed off looking dude, dressed like he’s from the year 1415, kicking your hotel door in because you didn’t RSPV properly. Then being told hand over documents or we may stick you in jail (and you know the pretended it would be the Tower of London).
The 1,000 yard stare he must get when asked if he enjoyed London and how lovely that history must be.
I guess he can ignore a court summons, but then he can never enter the UK again, which he might want to do at some point.
Today in “Stop! I can only get so hard!! 😖😰” news…
Let’s fucking go. Drag this fucker Infront of parliament.
Why not just block that whole dumpster fire
If there’s any group that needs to be taken out, it’s the PayPal mafia of Theil and Musk.
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DO IT YOU FUCKING COWARDS
Shitheels has a fucking opinion on how to run everything it seems. Clear sign he should run nothing, since the only thing being actually run is his fucking mouth.
And he will just politely decline.
“Politely” is doubtful. Same guy who told his advertisers to go fuck themselves and now is suing them for not using his platform anymore.
Sarcasm does not translate well in writing… but I refuse to use /s… but yes.
Love it that you’re getting downvoted for this highly controversial comment.
Proof #52895167698 that downvotes shouldn’t even be a thing
Yeah… really hurtful all those negative internet points. I don’t care though. They do serve as sort of a thermometer of the comment. But in this case… it makes me smile.
Funny thing to me about downvoters is they don’t seem to realize everyone likes to look for the downvoted posts because they’re often the most amusing. There’s a reason “controversial” is one of the first few sorting options.
My hypothesis is they’re mostly the younger people on the platform, trying to rely on peer pressure like this is HS or something, because that’s all they’ve really experienced so far in their lives.
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Oh yeah it’s not like it makes any real difference – although the points may be fake, whether we like it or not people do seem to let them influence how they look at a comment or post. It’s just a bit silly that so many people cling to the idea that downvotes are a valuable tool (apparently we’d be overrun with nazis if we couldn’t downvote things)
Nah. Downvotes should exist to show how unpopular radical or extremist views really are. It doesn’t apply here obviously, but I think the reason Meta and Twitter etc. are so negative/toxic is because you can’t discourage that content on popular posts. It just looks like there’s fewer likes.
Many Lemmy instances do just fine without them though, and unpopular extremist views are still unpopular. Frankly that sounds more like a case for moderation than downvotes.
One of the main problems I have with downvotes on Lemmy is that when people browse All, niche communities tend to attract a lot of drive-by downvotes (which is why many instances that host them opted to disable downvotes) that tend to drown out votes by people who are actually in those communities and push the content lower when using a sort that takes votes into account.
Yes there’s all sorts of lofty ideas about how downvotes should be used, and eg people are not “supposed” to downvote things just because they disagree (and no I’m not talking nazism here). Never goes that way in real life.
So far in my time on lemmy, browsing all means I have to block most communities I come across. Not because they’re invalid, usually because I don’t speak the language. It’s simply clutter to me. That being said I really wish there weren’t hundreds of new anime instances every day. It’s getting really old blocking them and thinking you’ve gotten rid of them all, then 15 more pop up. I don’t downvote in either situation, just kind of a sidebar here.
Promise the protesters you’ll squeeze rich people like Musk and his companies for all they’re worth to solve the issues with housing and NHS to start with.
I was hoping they meant “keel-haul Musk” because I approve this message.
