I just kind of wonder with how casually people express these thoughts. It’s a little disturbing how normalized it is to entertain such notions, given how other types of fantasies are very stigmatized.
Like when discussing char.ai, acting out sexual or romantic fantasies is something a lot of people do, but it’s considered embarrassing. While people freely discuss violent roleplays without any shame.
And then there’s the cliche of fantasizing about killing one’s boss or coworkers.
Are these really common thoughts for mentally sound people to have?
There’s a big difference between thinking/imagining something and acting on it. I wouldn’t consider it an issue unless it’s causing damage to your life or relationships. Fixating on morbid stuff to the point that it impacts your life is probably a sign of something bigger going on.
I havent had anyone express views like this around me; at all.
Are you OK, OP?
OP Is ok. Don’t tell me that you have not had a dick of a boss that was cruel to you and thought about ways to kill the SOB. The thoughts are fine but putting it into action is a whole different thing.
Dick of a boss? Yes.
Thought of shouting at him, telling how I feel? Yes.
Thought of brutally murdering him? No.Mmm no, can’t say I have. I have tried to come up with the perfect way and time to quit that most inconveniences them, you know make them feel my missing labor. Or fantasize a Newsies-style unionization. But not murder, no
I would say no, that is not normal.
Its important to note that someone saying “I wish I could/ I would kill my [whoever],” that doesn’t usually mean anything beyond just “I am voicing my frustration with that person.” That doesn’t mean they have actually given the idea thought.
If someone is actually thinking about killing or harming someone, please seek professional help.
If you’re worried, have a Hare test done. It’s a question and answer survey that helps diagnose sociopathy.
Personally I have a hypothesis that humanity has invisibly specialized, like ants. Hundreds of thousands of years of living in very dangerous environments with people living a few miles away that constantly want to kill you and take your food.
This has led to a mentally prepared warrior caste that will be less likely to fall to fear or panic in combat (of course this is natural selection, only the surviving warriors get to reproduce)
And I am thinking part of that is, as you experience, these violent fantasies.
You aren’t having them because you are mentally ill, you are having them because your ancestors evolved over thousands of generations to have more Fight than Flee in your emergency response.
Unfortunately that means your brain is geared for violence, like mine.
Were we born 400 years ago we might have been lauded heroes, but in our modern safe world we are relics that society wants to forget.
Like when discussing char.ai, acting out sexual or romantic fantasies is something a lot of people do, but it’s considered embarrassing. While people freely discuss violent roleplays without any shame.
Violence is culturally normalized, while sexual things are usually shamed and censored. We can see this a lot in different media, especially the US is very big on that part.
And then there’s the cliche of fantasizing about killing one’s boss or coworkers.
Never heard of that and I’d say that’s downright sociopathic. I think the only time I had seriously violent thoughts were about my cheating ex girlfriends, and there was a lot of shit that came along with that, that I’m not going to go into here. Let’s just say it was very traumatic and accordingly caused a lot of very different thoughts in general. But casually having fantasies about killing people? Nah dawg. That’s when you get a therapist.
Lol me and my gf used to play this game when we went into public areas. And we would decide how they would die. Than it bore down into who would you eat first on a desert island with no food.
Yes, it’s perfectly normal. It’s important to acknowledge that the more you indulge particular thoughts or fantasies, the more they become a part of your core personality, so it’s important to hold your thoughts captive, and form yourself into the type of person you want to be.
No idea, but I have a prescription for prn anti-psychotics after discussing this very topic with my mental health provider … so, do whatever you want with that information.
Of course. Everyone does.
That’s just not true. I certainly don’t.
My brain seems to draw the line at fantasizing a good punch in the nose. And even then, they have to really be asking for it, and then that’s it, I walk off. I can’t recall ever fantasized killing or torturing somebody that I had problems with. If that’s normal then idk, but honestly that’s totally weird to me
Hmmmm
I guess not everyone, but I’m with you on this.
Maybe that “sadistic” qualifier sets some apart, but I don’t think anyone can be human and not have a violent fantasy about someone.
For instance, most of us experience bullying in some way, and I can’t imagine there’s a single human being that didn’t want to react violently in some way.
It’s just part of being human.
Reading through these comments makes me worry about y’all and maybe the people I interact with on a daily basis.
Like I would understand maybe punching someone to try and “convert” the emotional/mental pain they caused you into actual pain they can understand; to teach them a lesson or open their eyes. Take punching a nazi as an example.
But having “violent sadistic fantasies” especially involving those close to you should probably invoke some level of concern about your mental state and warrant a psych eval.
Put it this way, if you sat down in front of a therapist and told them what you just told us, would they warn the authorities after the appointment or just go about their day?
Put it this way, if you sat down in front of a therapist and told them what you just told us, would they warn the authorities after the appointment or just go about their day?
That’s why you don’t do that…
I can’t say I’ve ever fantasized about killing a boss or coworkers. However, when I was 4 years old I imagined an alternate dimension that held a mirror universe to our own universe. However the big difference was in the alternate universe everybody was naked, and chained to a really really long wall. Like the great wall of china, except it spanned the entire globe.
Then whenever a kid in preschool or a teacher, or whomever made me mad, I’d go into the alternate dimension and poke them with hot skewers while they couldn’t move.
Saying it like that, I sound really messed up as a kid…
Oh wow - I totally did the alternate dimension thing too, hahaha!!! That’s hilarious. I bet it’s not uncommon, tbh
It’s normal to get such weird brainfarts, like the call of the void or imagining murder or other bad things, just like when a song suddenly gets stuck in your head. A healthy person thinks “wtf brain?” but when you start to think “that’s a great idea I want to act on”, maybe that’s not completely normal.
As long as they’re just thoughts, then it sounds normal to me
no not really
