You’ve got to let the police do their jobs, number one. Number two, you have to do a policy of stop and frisk. When you see a guy coming down the street and you can — the police know every one of them. They know their middle name. They know where they live. They know every one of them, the local police, and they’re great.
You got to let them do their job, stop and frisk, and take their gun away. You’ve got to do it. If somebody has because they have all these guns — you know, it’s very interesting, the toughest gun law, the toughest, by far, in the whole United States is in Chicago, and yet it’s the most — it’s —
Let all your Republican 2Aer friends and family know.
Everybody calm down. There’s a reason that the 2Aers won’t get mad about this.
This is as racist of a dog whistle as you can get. Lots of people are aware “stop and frisk” really means “stop and frisk minorities and plant drugs and weapons when you can.”
So it’s perfectly in line with the “law and order” bullshit. Don’t expect a lot of anger about these comments. To the shitheads, these comments are directed at the “right” people. Cops wouldn’t stop and frisk them, they think, because cops know that they’re a law abiding citizen by the color of their skin.
Racists gonna fuckin racist, man. First gun control we ever got in the USA was because white people got freaked out by black people with guns.
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You might be able to chip a few away by calling him a “gun grabber.” They probably won’t vote for Harris, but they won’t vote for Trump either. They might just sit it out.
Chip a few away here and a few away there… that might be all that’s needed.
Gun Grabber Don? You mean the only 21st century American president to sign an unconstitutional gun ban?
I think we all agree on the middle path. Keep posting bc every single voter counts. And share relevant expectations with the community who may not be 100% knowledgeable of the nuance.
They probably won’t vote for Harris, but they won’t vote for Trump either.
This is actually possible. There’s a “don’t tread on me” type that has been using their yard as a political billboard for years and i just recently noticed that while they’re still anti- our current Democrat governer, they took down their pro-Trump stuff as well. Now there’s some sign about Jill Stein that’s up but seems a lot less flamboyant.
Fascists don’t win on facts and logic, they win on affect.
He says one thing about guns, but means something about hurting minorities. His electorate only cares about the second part. Literally anything you could argue about the first part is worse than useless, because through sheer power of denial they’ll revert to affect on this well-practiced talking point (”Trump love guns, Trump hate [insert slur here], Trump just like me"). You can’t win on this battlefield, no matter how objectively and obviously right you are.
That’s why “Trump is weird” is so unbelievably more effective than “Trump is a rapist”, “Trump is a fascist”, “Trump is a criminal” or “Trump is a traitor”. Pointing out his weirdness directly undermines his affect. “We’re not going back” calls back to the constant feeling of dread of his presidency. Ironically when dealing with humans, but especially when dealing with fascists, affect and core values are more important and less malleable than facts.
I literally just learned the word affect like… 4 hours ago, what the fuck?
That’s the Baader Meinhof Phenomenon (AKA the Frequency Illusion) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_illusion
This is something I learned about decades ago, but never really experienced. Now I see it all the time and it’s fucking weird. The simulation is breaking down
If we in a simulation, I hope that shit breaks all the way down.
They clearly forgot to install the Livin’ Large and Makin’ Magic expansions. Can we get an afterlife and some damn wizards up in here?
Gun Grabbin’ Donnie
That’s G… r… a… b… b… i… n… Apostrophe
Grab em by the pistols
When you’re a cop they let you do it.
Grab 'em by the gun. You can do anything.
Grab 'em by the Glock.
Give them the ol’ Glock twist!
To the shitheads, these comments are directed at the “right” people. Cops wouldn’t stop and frisk them, they think, because cops know that they’re a law abiding citizen by the color of their skin.
The joke is that it’s the same damned thing when Eric Adams or Beto ORourke suggests it.
Take the guns from the poors is always the subtext. You never talk about disarming the police or curtailing access to private security.
Republicans just want to be vigilantes. And they’re mad at Democrats when they can’t hunt people in their neighborhood for sport.
I’ve talked to a fair number of progressives who are perfectly fine allowing firearms ownership based solely on class and wealth. They too, want “gun control” based on class and wealth.
Read this comment before the article and thought it surely wouldn’t be as obvious as you’re stating.
Spoiler: with Chicago, it’s usually more obvious.
One day I will finally untangle my sense of obligation to give bigots the benefit of the doubt. Can’t wait but it’s a lot of work and self reflection.
Yep - “the police know everyone of them”
Same reason the NRA barely made a peep about Philando Castile. Licensed to carry a gun, dutifully announced that to the officer, and got killed for it. A year later they said that was a shame or something like that and then immediately forgot about it again. White agent of the state good, black gun owner bad. The conservative gun rights movement has always been motivated by racism.
Indeed. They see all black people as criminals, I’m sure they’re thinking “If we get him on a bullshit charge now, he can’t steal a bicycle to sell for more hoodjuice or whatever it is those rappers sing about.”
Disgraceful.
Newsflash: Dark Skin is not evidence of guilt, but try telling the cops that…
Conservatism is “there must be outgroups for the law to bind but not protect, and in groups for the law to protect but not bind” manifests again, here.
Oh sweet. Yeah only let whites have guns, I’m sure this will play out perfectly fine
Every time I read a quote from this idiot it hurts my brain. I could go on about how stop and frisk is a horrible, racist policy that is a violation of basic rights, but just reading anything he says is painful. His speech is so jarring, erratic, and logically flawed. I’ve listened to average second graders express their thoughts more eloquently than this piece of garbage.
My niece was 2 years old when she said “Uncle, I’m scared of the dark, but juice is in there.”
And she wanted one of those capri-sun juice packs. I told her there’s nothing to be scared of in the garage. She can leave the door open so she can see what she’s doing, but she should get the juice herself.
I expected to have to turn on the light, and maybe even get the juice for her, but I wanted to see how long until she asked for help.
Well, she was still scared, but she walked all the way in, picked up 2 juice packs, and came back inside.
I asked what the 2nd juice pack was for. She said “I got one for you!”
It was the proudest I’d ever been as an uncle. I taught her to face her fears, and in doing so she showed that even when scared she still thinks of others.
Which is more than I can say for trump and his way of thinking. He would have made the story into some self serving story where he battles a monster in the dark, and slayed a dragon, and everybody loves him. Meanwhile what actually happened is he got some underling to bring him the juice because he was too scared.
Whereas my neice faced her fear, overcame it, and thought of others while doing it. THATS real bravery! And more human growth than trump has ever displayed. Plus I actually understood what she was trying to convay. They may have been short sentences, but they were complete sentences. Plus they didn’t drift off halfway into some racist rant. Mostly because she isn’t racist and is raised better than that.
“My juice packs are the best juice packs. I was just talking to the inventor of the juice pack, Hannibal Lector, the other day and he says to me. He says, “Donnie,” he calls me Donnie because we’re that close, Hannibal Lector and I. So Hannie, I call him Hannie because we’re, like super duperly close, closer than brothers. So he, Hannibal Lector, inventor of the juice pack, he says, “Donnie, you always have the best juice packs. I don’t know how you do it, but yours are the best juice packs, and that’s why you should be president for life.” Very smart man, Hannibal Lector. Really, really smart.”
for a second I thought she was talking about oj lol
First they came for the imaginary guns of imaginary black criminals, and I said nothing… Because I was also imagining their weapons and crimes and hiding in my little baby coward bunker of a home trying to buy bulletproof pants online that would make people think that maybe I might not have a tiny, weird penis…
Nice ramble of a second paragraph there.
People who vote for idiot shocked to find out candidate is idiot
Hey maybe this will make my wealthy white mother OK with the cops taking away her guns
I’m sure that only applies to a) people of a different skin color first, then b) poor white people a distant second.
* Poorer white people. Even those who know they’re poor think it won;t target them, only those who are worse than them somehow
The NRA is awfully quiet all of a sudden…
They’ll just reshape it to “illegals with guns”
So what you’re saying is… you’re coming for their guns? Just making sure. OK.
No, obviously not the guns of real people, just the ones who get stopped and frisked by the police. Y’know… the ones you can tell are evil because they’re… y’know, wink wink nudge nudge “urban”.
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OP and everyone in the comments are pretending he’s talking about the 2nd amendment but he’s just talking about good old fashioned racism.
Yeah, he’s pretty clearly saying he wants police to selectively take guns from those they think are problem starters. Though it wouldn’t surprise me if he wants that group to include categories his wannabe shooter would have fit in, which probably will end up including many people he relies on for support.
He has said this before and everyone forgot. Wild that the Dem VP is an avid hunter that believes in 2nd amendment, just wants background checks, while the republican candidate wants to confiscate.
This last weekend, during the — just prior to the start of the convention, with all the police everything else, do you know that so far, five people have been killed? You don’t read about it because the press doesn’t want to report about it. Five people have been killed in Chicago during the Democrat convention.
He can just make up whatever he likes and they don’t challenge him but what’s new.
He’s so close! Somehow his racism took him down a weird convoluted path and ended up with gun control.
Just like good ol’ Ronny Ray Gun
gun control has racist roots, so it is not surprising
