Afghanistan’s Taliban rulers are cracking down on the sound of women’s voices in public, under a strict new set of vice and virtue laws under the Islamist regime.
Conservative Sunni Islam’s attitude towards women basically boils down to men needing to see as little as possible of them, lest they become uncontrollably rapey. Shia are a little bit less misogynistic, and Sufi are significantly less so.
I guess it’s just a coincidence that the most conservative Sunni countries are aggressively misogynistic? Unless Wahhabists are actually secret feminists.
“Saudi misogyny is actually the fault of the British” is the second-most hilarious take I’ve read all year, right behind “making fun of LLMs for being bad at math is ableist” (an actual post I read on Mastodon).
It’s more like societies with endogamous communal family structures like Islam – not even Sunni in particular. The worst misogyny historically doesn’t even happen there though but in exogamous communal family structures, things like widow burning in India, feet binding in China, or rape of your daughter-in-law in Russia: In the endogamous setting, all the misogyny is happening within a clan structure that includes the woman’s close kin, while in the exogamous setting she’s on her own.
Anthropologists are still very much in the process of figuring stuff out but particular family structures correlating to differing preferences in political ideology is a very interesting topic, it’s mostly thought of as representing deeper social values and ideal that are hard to get a handle on. No I won’t link Todd right now the guy has gone off the deep end regarding Ukraine, his stuff is worth reading but don’t only read him – not just because of Ukraine.
Conservative Sunni Islam’s attitude towards women basically boils down to men needing to see as little as possible of them, lest they become uncontrollably rapey.
I find that so utterly bizarre, like, you can’t control your sexual impulses like a normal person does unless every woman in your field of vision is dressed like a Halloween ghost?
Probably because many local women would outright reject the Taliban, as partners and as masters, if they had a say. Educated women especially would run circles around them.
Why are they so afraid of women?
Who would be the servants and sexual submissives if women were free to do as they pleased?
Hawt
Conservative Sunni Islam’s attitude towards women basically boils down to men needing to see as little as possible of them, lest they become uncontrollably rapey. Shia are a little bit less misogynistic, and Sufi are significantly less so.
Sunni Islam does not prescribe women being fully veiled nor does it forbid schooling. The Taliban are following tribalism not Islam.
I used “conservative” for a reason. Sunni men writ large consider the hijab mandatory, but not face coverings.
There is no conservative version of Sunni Islam which prescribes it. The word conservative means to adhere to tradion.
Worlds first university was created by an Islamic Sunni woman.
Full face coverings were only prescribed for the women of the Prophet. This is universally accepted.
What the Taliban is following is nothing more than tribalistic misogyny. A red pill cult. It has nothing to do with Islam.
I guess it’s just a coincidence that the most conservative Sunni countries are aggressively misogynistic? Unless Wahhabists are actually secret feminists.
Wahabism originated in Saudi Arabia, which worked with the British to overthrow the Islamic Caliphate.
Anything originating in Saudi for the past few centuries should be taken with a large amount of salt.
Islam Doesn’t Deny Women Education, So Why Does the Taliban?
“Saudi misogyny is actually the fault of the British” is the second-most hilarious take I’ve read all year, right behind “making fun of LLMs for being bad at math is ableist” (an actual post I read on Mastodon).
The Caliphate was Islamic. Saudi waged war against the Caliphate.
Nothing here blames the British for misogyny. That is a strawman.
It’s more like societies with endogamous communal family structures like Islam – not even Sunni in particular. The worst misogyny historically doesn’t even happen there though but in exogamous communal family structures, things like widow burning in India, feet binding in China, or rape of your daughter-in-law in Russia: In the endogamous setting, all the misogyny is happening within a clan structure that includes the woman’s close kin, while in the exogamous setting she’s on her own.
Anthropologists are still very much in the process of figuring stuff out but particular family structures correlating to differing preferences in political ideology is a very interesting topic, it’s mostly thought of as representing deeper social values and ideal that are hard to get a handle on. No I won’t link Todd right now the guy has gone off the deep end regarding Ukraine, his stuff is worth reading but don’t only read him – not just because of Ukraine.
I find that so utterly bizarre, like, you can’t control your sexual impulses like a normal person does unless every woman in your field of vision is dressed like a Halloween ghost?
It’s the woman’s fault, obviously!
Edit: also, your comment is ironic given your username. One of the GOAT sexual deviants…
Power.
Probably because many local women would outright reject the Taliban, as partners and as masters, if they had a say. Educated women especially would run circles around them.