I see a ton of comments here hating on nostalgic people, with no actual nostalgic people in sight yet.
Personally I don’t care if a pouched drink exists or not, but if they are no longer producing pouched drinks they should probably retire the brand.
Do you remember what a CapriSun tastes like? It’s somewhere between an extremely-artificially flavored “juice” concentrate and a “fruit flavored” drink like Kool-Aid. The whole appeal was the packaging.
I see a ton of comments here hating on nostalgic people, with no actual nostalgic people in sight yet.
…yeah you’re in a Lemmy comment section.
179 post score seems highly nostalgic to me tbh
I invited myself because it’s an interesting article, nothing to do with nostalgia.
It’s quite literally a bit of orange juice, filled up with water and loaded with sugar.
It also includes flavoring (of which the orange juice is one). They come in more flavors than just orange.
THEY DO?!
Any chance you are thinking of SunnyD?
This is absolutely reeks of a bullshit “OMG the sky must be falling for you” condescending article from an older generation that thinks younger nostalgia is silly. I wouldn’t give this article any more credence than a boomer yelling “Avocado Toast!” at you when you’re enjoying a nice brunch. It’s just needlessly sensationalist shit stirring.
Thanks Biden
Sir, I think you mean “Thanks Obama.”
I don’t care about the nostalgia, but they are going to stop being easy to squeeze into a lunchbox now, so I’ll find a different brand.
I get my sugar fix from a different brand now
Sad, from a nostalgia point of view, but probably a win, environmentally. We have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles, the mylar pouches are pretty much all single use.
We actually don’t have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles though, right?
Why aren’t we just using glass, as we did for decades just fine.
Well that would be because the god-king CEO would have like 45k less per year out of his 38,000,000 dollar salary without bonuses and stock value if we were to do that, you fuckin peasant idiot chump. Not only that but their enabling middle management might have as much as $200 less in their annual bonuses. Think for someone else other than yourself for once.
That’s not actually a solution when talking single-use either. Remaking the bottles from recycled glass is incredibly energy intensive and not an environmentally friendly process either. Multi-use bottles are much better, but the cleaning required also isn’t that simple and also relatively energy intensive (far from remaking the bottles of course).
There’s also practical downsides to glass (heavy, breakable), but those are subjective and their relevance highly depends on the use case.
Ideally, we wouldn’t buy stuff to drink in any kind of bottle, but just use tap water. possibly just buy some concentrated stuff to then make your actual drink at home. Nothing beats the effectiveness of transporting water through a simple pipe, but that isn’t even possible everywhere in the world due to drinking water quality issues…
If micro plastics in the water supply is an actual issue long term the tap water will be shot for the whole of most places. Reverse osmosis systems are the only ones I had heard could reliably help, but I haven’t gone to extensive on looking into that. Each household may someday need under the sink or such systems if so : /. Unless we can reliably do so at treatment plants and then transport it through the lines without the water getting any back in. With many American cities having water at its current state, I don’t see that happening.
A surprising number of companies actually do sell powder versions of their drinks on the web. I buy both Arizona tea and A&W root beer packets online.
Holy shit I didn’t realize you could buy root beer concentrate, this is amazing. I’m totally stocking up next time I’m in the US.
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A lot of glass bottles aren’t melted down, but simply washed and reused.
Good job with reading you did there. Your didn’t even make it 8 words in and already decided to comment. Maybe give it another go, if you dare, and try getting a little further this time.
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Our school won’t let us send reusable glass containers excuse of fear of breakage.
I kinda understand, but our first grader has been using them for snacks at home for 5 years and never broken one.
When you say “we” as in you and me, yeah, I don’t think we could manage to recycle them. “We” as a planet certainly can and many countries do.
Which countries? I thought only 9% of plastic is actually recycled.
Bottle deposit systems are generally effective. In Sweden, 90-95% of the pet plastic in drink bottles makes it back to a factory to be used as raw material for new bottles. We don’t really recycle the hdpe lids or polyester labels, though.
Source on this “pipeline”?
…do you not believe bottles are recycled? Or is this just a snarky way of pointing out how ineffective the system is?
I was a bit too snarky
If you even thought to say that, I can’t blame you for your original comment.
Yeah, it’s really sad how bad plastic is currently destroying our environment. Humans have to be able to see further into the future than “will I live to see the consequences of my actions? Because if not, I can’t worry about them”
I agree,
It pisses me off that you can slap a recycling logo on a plastic bottle and call it a day when the process is nearly impossible and hardy ever done.
If you think recycling is effective you have fallen to their propaganda
Great, you not only read my mind but you are also spreading gloom about an extremely well known issue. Beautiful.
I don’t think I could have lived in society for the past 15 years without hearing about this issue at least 5 times a year, and I’m not sure what made you think otherwise.
I want change, ignoring the problem doesn’t makebthe issue go away
So if I ask what a person means with their snark, it means I want the problem to be ignored?
That’s a sad and weird way to assume shit, honestly. Because if you actually knew my view, you would know that I think about plastics fucking the human race every day of my life
Oh no, something is ineffective, we better abandon the whole idea!
No, I want an effective system starting with the producers of waste
Yes, actually. We should abandon the whole idea. We should actually stop using plastics for everything. That’s the correct take.
Something like 9% of plastic gets recycled.
Recycling bin > recycling lorry > container > third world country > sea.
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A landfill in your own country? How fancy!
But much better to use aluminium.
At least aluminum actually is recyclable.
Plastic and glass aren’t recyclable huh? Better just throw them in the landfill, much better.
There is still a plastic liner on the inside, glass, stainless steel or nothing
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Microplastics aren’t nothing
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Non acidic things don’t get either of these. Anything acidic goes into glass and non gets SS. Have a return system (beer store in Ontario does this)
If your childhood is defined by Capri Sun, you have bigger problems than the container in which it’s distributed.
I’m happy that your childhood was defined by a stable career and a nice car, I guess…?
If wishing made it so …
My childhood was defined by Pokemon Red, sat morning cartoons, and drinking 0.25 cent plastic fruit hugs.
What problems do I face?
I bought a case of hugs for a bbq I had over the summer for my friends who are now all into their 30s. Figured it would be a fun little hit of nostalgia.
They were more popular than I expected, and actually better than I remember them being.
You talkim the ol white plastic bottles with the foil cap and no labels?
Yep those are hugs.
Oncoming middle age?
A bottle that’s actually a drink vs. a pouch that’s barely a mouthful? I’m OK with that…
A 30 Pack of pouches was sold for like 0.05 to 0.20 USD per fluid oz.
They sell large 96 fl oz bottles at roughly 0.30 USD per fluid oz, so you’re actually getting less drink with bottles as things stand currently.
Yeah but kids also take much smaller sips than adults. That said, last time I drank a Capri Sun, I downed it in one squeeze and was super disappointed.
|I downed it in one squeeze and was disappointed
This was and always will be all of our experience. Child or not, this was and is the only way
I very specifically remember the controversy 15-20 years ago when it was found that many of these pouches had mold in them, and you couldn’t see it because of the pouch or even taste it. I’m sure the quality control since then has improved, but any time I see a pouch of juice, I think about that mold incident.
Is that why some brands made the back of the pouch transparent?
Yes
I would assume so. I would also think a lot of people just aren’t comfortable consuming something that they can’t see.
Now if only we could get transparent aluminum cans.
(I mean technically we can? But it wouldn’t be the same. Just super dense synthetic corundum at best.)
I know a guy who can help.
it would be so crazy if we used that one barely functional tried and true for hundreds if not thousands of years product called glass.
Yes, but I meant the full can experience. Like pop top, leave it on the counter and the fizz dies. Lol.
When they started doing the childrens semi-solid foods (applesauce) in similar packs, they had the exact same problem for YEARS
The form factor sucks ass and I wish they’d find a better way for both types of product
I have always, for the entirety of their existence, hated those dumb pouches. Good riddance as far as I’m concerned.
Seconded. And trying to stab the flexing surface with that weak-ass straw.
You have to kind of service the top edge of the hole with the tip of the straw to soften it up before you guide it the rest of the way in.
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Skill issue 😉
Unironically, there’s a technique to it. I forgot how after I got older, and was genuinely frustrated trying to drink from one until I remembered how to do it.
The pouches seem like less plastic.
They have these revolutionary containers made from paper that is layered in order to make it hard and card like. Almost stiff as a board. And is capable of holding liquids and also breaks down very easily. 😒
What are they lined with to prevent them from getting soggy from contact with the liquid?
Probably Teflon 🤣💀
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Probably parrafin.
Take a wild guess what parrafin is made from…
Not sure if it has the same issues breaking down as plastic, but it’s still a petroleum byproduct, so we should probably be moving away from it.
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I’m in!
They made a really loud noise in the lunchroom if you inflated the pouch all the way, folded over the straw to seal it, then stomped on it really hard with your shoe. This was before mentally deranged people started shooting up schools though, so maybe don’t try it.
Mentally deranged people have been shooting up schools since before Capri Sun was even invented…
How old are you?
I’m not going to look it up to verify, but I’m pretty sure Capri Sun existed before Columbine.
Columbine was far from the first school shooting. According to the Washington Post:
“The first recorded school shooting in the United States was in 1853 at a schoolhouse in Louisville, Kentucky. On November 2, 1853, Matt Ward shot and killed teacher William H.G. Butler with a pistol hidden in his coat pocket.”
I think the very important point you’re missing is that schools did not exist in fear of school shootings before Columbine. There were no lockdown drills and crazy security measures for entering and leaving the building. So making a big loud noise would not make people instantly think someone was shooting up the school like it very well might today.
I’m not sure how I missed that from their first post. /s
I get it, you’re scared. Noone was ever scared like that before.
Edit: I looked it up, mocked a false statement and declaration of ignorance.
Got downvoted. I’m not promoting violence, I’m mocking ignorance.
I think you replied to the wrong post
I know it’s not the first, I never claimed it was. But as someone who is old enough to remember what life was like before Columbine, that was the one that changed everything. That’s when we started having active shooter drills.
Then 9/11 just amplified it.
It’s that I’ve been in schools with after school activities in the last year.
Kids were popping chip bags and nobody drew weapons or jumped because of a loud pop that sounds nothing like a normal gunshot.
I was in school before columbine ever happened.
I don’t think violence in is ok in most situations. I think America has a mental health and gun issue.
I like the Capri Sun mylar things from a nostalgic perspective.
And - Rudolf Wild invented the drink in 1969
shit rots your teeth anyway
Are you just talking about sugar content or something more?
I only have my experience but consuming Capri sun specifically gave me cavities. Like zero to six in six months when I started getting it for lunch as a kid
The article doesn’t actually say they are phasing out pouches, just that they are introducing bottles.
Yeah thats fair.
The outrage might even be a result of corporate marketing strategy.
Maybe I should alakazam the post?
Seems they updated the article title, which now says the exact opposite of your post title.
Unsure if you can edit. Here’s the new title:
Capri Sun promises they aren’t phasing out pouches after reports of a switch to bottles ruined childhoods everywhere
I feel like I’m the only one who experienced metal bottles of Pacific cooler like 20 years ago. My mom bought them one time before realizing I went through them just as quickly as the pouches, despite them being like 4x the volume and price. They were one of the best things I ever experienced
Oh no! Anyway
I don’t get it. Am I too American?
Yep. It’s sold in Italy and it’s arguably better than Capri Sun. I’ve actually never seen Capri Sun in the supermarket shelves.
Pesca makes it sound like fish juice
That’s “pesce” but you’re somehow right lmao
Pescado is Spanish for fish.
YAY! More plastic!!!
I imagine it’s pretty much the same amount of plastic as they’ve always had.
The correct choice would have been paper/cardboard bottles, which is easier to recycle
Juice boxes have a plastic lining, which is still better for the environment but not necessarily easier to recycle.
Bottles are 80% more plastic than pouches and cost more. The only good part is those pouches are not usually recyclable at all and sometimes bottles get recycled.
“Sometimes” feels a bit generous. From a quick search I can find estimates that 5-9% of all plastic is recycled. It might be higher or lower depending on the specific kinds of plastic these bottles use, but most of it is probably ending up in a landfill anyways.
I was being generous. Aluminum, steel & glass are the only materials that get regularly recycled. All the others are usually trashed, even if you sent them to recycling.
Technically a shift from Mylar to PET might be more environmentally friendly, but yeah I would prefer cans or cardboard box drinks, you know: the ol waxed paperboard beverage carton
It’s probably paraffin wax they use, which is basically plastic.
Absolutely plastic lined all, I was just trying to be descriptive since that packaging type doesn’t seem to have any unique identifying names.
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No it’s not structurally “plastic” but it’s not biodegradable or reusable which is the point at hand so I think it was a reasonable comparison. (I also said “basically plastic” which clearly indicates similarity rather than equation)
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Meh, I’m well into my 40s and solidly don’t give a shit.
I’m proud of you! Letting go of your childhood nostalgia and stop regarding it as an unachievable goal and safe place to return to is a first step towards maturity!
But the original package seems like such an efficient way to injest micro-plastics. I hope the bottles have the annoying safety rings that are hard for people to open because they probably also produce micro-plastics.
I can’t speak for how the different materials degrade over time, but at least the old mylar bags were shielded from sunlight.
They were polyester-reverse side printed to aluminum then laminated to polyethylene.
